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[Silver]

Gilsa wrote...

*************SPOILERS *************** (in case you're still playing the game)

I somewhat feel like an idiot for not seeing the ending coming. I really truly honestly thought it was all about building up war assets and paying attention to the military might of each race. I was even scribbling down notes because I thought Shepard's success would depend on delegating roles wisely ("you guys are ground troops, you handle aerial assaults, you guys are backups here and here, etc") much the same way we picked out who did what in ME2's suicide mission. My choices basically boiled down to picking between the red, green, or blue explosions. What?

I'm still absorbing the bitter pill of how the series wrapped up, but once I get past my initial anger, there really were a lot of awesome FemShep moments that I just loved and will probably talk about later. James and FemShep giving each other bloody noses while "dancing" is one example off the top of my head.

I will definetely start a new game, even if just to take screenshots en masse.

[mellifera]

2leggywillow wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Tup3xi wrote...

Yeah. It feels like there's no point. Also, how in hell Kaidan managed to teleport back to Normandy, without a scratch?!? Did he run exactly opposite direction than Shepard? He was in the same squad all the time! What the hell were they thinking!

Also, they basically butchered the whole IP with that ending.

That is actually the part I hate the most. I do not buy for a second that any of the people you'd take with you would not be by Shepard's side until it was physically impossible for them to do so. I don't buy that they wouldn't charge toward the beam with Shepard or that they wouldn't try to go after Shepard if they were still alive. Putting aside that it makes no sense as to how the Normandy got close enough to extract them anyway, I absolutely do not believe they would leave. IMO they got killed by the Reaper beam. I think them somehow being alive and magically on the Normandy is supposed to be a "reward" for the player, but lol, um, no. It just adds more irritating questions.

Hell, it doesn't even matter if they wanted to run away.  They could be running the opposite direction and screeching for a pick-up and I'd still say it's physically impossible for them to end up on the Normandy.  The whole point of the first section in London was that most of the ground team was getting destroyed before it could even land--there's no way the Normandy would risk a needless pick-up at that point.  It was way too hot, and I don't think any of the squadmates would be selfish enough to ask.

I don't necessarily think they were both killed by the Reaper beam, though.  Big Ben aka Major Coats didn't die, and he was in the tank with them on the way there.  I guess he hung back, though I see no reason why he wasn't charging in as well.  (Amusingly your squadmates don't run for the beam with you... I ran backwards for a bit and watched them stand there.  "LOL YOU GOT THIS, SHEPARD").  In my headcanon, Javik was killed by the beam but Kaidan was just badly wounded.

Yeah, I mean, they don't have to die or anything. I just refuse to accept that at the end of all things they'd just hang back and not do anything. THEN on top of that they just run away in some completely impossible scenario. At least leave them on Earth. Even if they live and they don't follow Shepard up, it just doesn't fit *any* of the characters in your squad to leave, IMO. Especially not after the end speeches you get, ESPECIALLY if you romanced them. That they just up and leave, that they don't even try to follow you? I do not buy it for a second. I'd rather they be dead or incapacitated rather than abandon Shepard and teleport onto a Normandy that is nowhere where it is supposed to be (seriously wtf joker?!)

Modifié par yukidama, 10 mars 2012 - 10:18 .

[SaturnRing]

2leggywillow wrote...

Tup3xi wrote...

BioWare has got issues. The thing is, with ending like this and how it makes people feel, I don't know if I want to feel that feeling again.

Definitely not.  It's my fault for getting far too attached to Shepard and the characters, but I don't think I can put myself through that again.  I have 11 Shepards and I was very excited about bringing all of them through ME3, but now... eh.  The rest of the game is just so good that I told myself I'd play them all up to the ending and stop there, but I tried to start my renegade Garrusmancer yesterday and... just couldn't do it.  I just kept thinking about where she would end up, and it was too depressing.

And here i was, pissed because i couldn't import my canon; i don't think i'll put her through that!
It's hard to see any replay value in all this (dlcs?) Or maybe we missing something... or time to process it [the ending]...i'm not there yet; i'll be the judge...

[f1r3storm]

Modifié par f1r3storm, 10 mars 2012 - 11:02 .

[aimlessgun]

SaturnRing wrote...
And here i was, pissed because i couldn't import my canon; i don't think i'll put her through that!
It's hard to see any replay value in all this (dlcs?) Or maybe we missing something... or time to process it [the ending]...i'm not there yet; i'll be the judge...

If you can come up with a satisfactory way to deal with the end, the rest of the game is so good. I'll be playing it again sometime, I'm sure. I'll give bioware some time to respond first though

yukidama wrote...
Even if they live and they don't follow Shepard up, it just doesn't fit *any* of the characters in your squad to leave, IMO. Especially not after the end speeches you get, ESPECIALLY if you romanced them. That they just up and leave, that they don't even try to follow you? I do not buy it for a second. I'd rather they be dead or incapacitated rather than abandon Shepard and teleport onto a Normandy that is nowhere where it is supposed to be (seriously wtf joker?!)

Yeah the character assassination of all your friends is one of the worst parts of the mess. And then after running away, they get off the ship, for all they know everything they left behind is a smoking ruin, and they don't even look upset.  ln fact, they look kind of at peace with the whole situation. 

[AtlasMickey]

*plugs his ears*

It can't be that bad! I still plan on replaying ME2 again at least once and ME3 at least twice!

[meonlyred]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

Suffice to say I despised the endings. The Deus Ex ghost child was ridiculous. The choices were ridiculous. Not to mention it left me with a feeling of depressed emptiness and a longing for closure. I sat there thinking 'Everything I've done throughout the series has been completely pointless'.

And don't even get me started about how they handled the ME2 Romances (mostly Jacob and Thane). That was the biggest load of crap and lack of thought on the writers part I've ever seen.

I feel the same way. The first 36ish hours were nigh perfect. Expect mentioned Thane and Jacob romances, I'm sad to say I don't think I can stand to import Dakota and Penelope who are Thane and Jacob -mances, respectively. Dakota is a maybe just because after Patrick Weekes I wonder if they are going to maybe patch it. I highly doubt it, but I have to have at least some hope. 

Let me also say that I loved more things in ME3 than I hated. Shepard's facial expressions have been improved in leaps and bounds. Smiling, depression, horror, anger, shock, rage, happiness, shyness, determination. Adding Hale's voice acting, wow, just wow. I choked up majorly when Z. Shepard was telling Kaidan goodbye. *fans eyes thinking about it*

I was nothing but blown away by the mission and the story telling. And had the game ended here:



I would have been more than okay with that. But how the hell did Kaidan and Garrus how were running behind my Shepard towards the beam suddenly get teleported on to the Normandy, a long with the rest of the crew. And what is the point of stranding them on 'Eden' without Shepard? And speaking of, how long until the Normandy's food stocks run out and Garrus and Tali starve to death? What about the Turians and the Quarians on Earth?

The ending is such a let down it has effected my ability to replay this game. Which is insane considering that when I first played ME1 and 2, the moment I beat it I reimported my Shepard and played it again. I beat ME3 3 days ago and can't bring myself to play it again.

[Tup3x]

At least there's Shepard VI:

It looks like they randomize some face features for that.

[SaturnRing]

meonlyred wrote...



The ending is such a let down it has effected my ability to replay this game. Which is insane considering that when I first played ME1 and 2, the moment I beat it I reimported my Shepard and played it again. I beat ME3 3 days ago and can't bring myself to play it again.

I second that; i played ME1 & 2 four times straight before i could think about playing anything else. It would suck if ME 3 were to loose replay value because of a poor ending. I still hope i'll be able right after i finish it, to import and start over...who am i kidding



@Tup: i thought the same about my Shep VI too.

Modifié par SaturnRing, 10 mars 2012 - 11:24 .

[adneate]

AtlasMickey wrote...
It can't be that bad!

It really is, this game crashes and burns in the most destructive spectacular way I've ever seen. It doesn't just destroy the game, it destroys the trilogy and nukes the entire IP into blackened ash.

The drop off in quality is about as aburpt as falling off a cliff 200 feet on to jagged rocks. One minute it's good then it's unbearably horrible to the point of physical revulsion.

[meonlyred]

@Flies_by_Handles,
I almost regret romancing Kaidan with Zody now. Which is COMPLETELY insane for me to say considering how much I love the romance. If only to spare him the pain of losing her. Not really a fan of the idea of that it is better to have loved and lost then never to have loved at all.

[f1r3storm]

adneate wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...
It can't be that bad!

It really is, this game crashes and burns in the most destructive spectacular way I've ever seen. It doesn't just destroy the game, it destroys the trilogy and nukes the entire IP into blackened ash.

The drop off in quality is about as aburpt as falling off a cliff 200 feet on to jagged rocks. One minute it's good then it's unbearably horrible to the point of physical revulsion.

So you let these few minutes destroy all those wonderful experiences you had with the games?

Well, your loss.

I certainly wouldn't want to miss or forget all those experiences, the people i met through them, even if only 5% of the final game maybe disappointing.

[drwells123]

meonlyred wrote...
Not really a fan of the idea of that it is better to have loved and lost then never to have loved at all.

Agree. As Agent K so eloquently put it: "Try it."

f1r3storm wrote...

adneate wrote...
It
really is, this game crashes and burns in the most destructive
spectacular way I've ever seen. It doesn't just destroy the game, it
destroys the trilogy and nukes the entire IP into blackened ash.

The
drop off in quality is about as aburpt as falling off a cliff 200 feet
on to jagged rocks. One minute it's good then it's unbearably horrible
to the point of physical revulsion.

So you let these few minutes destroy all those wonderful experiences you had with the games?

Well, your loss.

I
certainly wouldn't want to miss or forget all those experiences, the
people i met through them, even if only 5% of the final game maybe
disappointing.

Sounds like the optimal strategy is to stop playing right before the end, resist the grisly temptation to look up the endings on youtube, and just let headcanon take over from there.

Modifié par drwells123, 10 mars 2012 - 11:41 .

[SaturnRing]

aimlessgun wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...
And here i was, pissed because i couldn't import my canon; i don't think i'll put her through that!
It's hard to see any replay value in all this (dlcs?) Or maybe we missing something... or time to process it [the ending]...i'm not there yet; i'll be the judge...

If you can come up with a satisfactory way to deal with the end, the rest of the game is so good. I'll be playing it again sometime, I'm sure. I'll give bioware some time to respond first though

I agree; so far i like what they did with the faces expressions, animations[except for that scene with Liara if Shep is wearing the dress], even combat feels so organic...i wanna soak it all up. not to mention that the game is gorgeous.

Modifié par SaturnRing, 10 mars 2012 - 11:41 .

[SaturnRing]

Tup3xi wrote...

At least there's Shepard VI:

It looks like they randomize some face features for that.

btw at what point did you get the falcon? i'm desperately chasing it.

[jakenou]

AtlasMickey wrote...

*plugs his ears*

It can't be that bad! I still plan on replaying ME2 again at least once and ME3 at least twice!

That hair looks great on your Shep! I tried it on one of my Sheps, but it just seemed so drastic... now you have me rethinking it.

Edit - wait... is that from ME2??


*also looking at this thread through squinted eyes to avoid spoilers*


BTW - and I know this has been discussed in depth here, but does the default femshep in ME3 look as ridiculous and appauling to anyone else as much as it does for me? I still can't get over it and am trying to think of a way to superimpose one of my fems over the one on my CE tin case (she is defiling it!!). Why would they replace Plain Jane with THAT?

Modifié par jkthunder, 10 mars 2012 - 11:48 .

[mellifera]

meonlyred wrote...
I was nothing but blown away by the mission and the story telling. And had the game ended here:



I would have been more than okay with that. 

This is where I pretend my game ended. The rest was some wishful thinking/delusion Shepard had as she lay there bleeding. The Normandy's crash landing with the squadmate/LI coming out of the Normandy is just her fever dream wishing that they survived and landed somewhere safe. It makes it better for me, lmfao.

[SaturnRing]

jkthunder wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

*plugs his ears*

It can't be that bad! I still plan on replaying ME2 again at least once and ME3 at least twice!

That hair looks great on your Shep! I tried it on one of my Sheps, but it just seemed so drastic... now you have me rethinking it.

Edit - wait... is that from ME2??


*also looking at this thread through squinted eyes to avoid spoilers*


BTW - and I know this has been discussed in depth here, but does the default femshep in ME3 look as ridiculous and appauling to anyone else as much as it does for me? I still can't get over it and am trying to think of a way to superimpose one of my fems over the one on my CE tin case (she is defiling it!!). Why would they replace Plain Jane with THAT?

Although i do not dislike the new ME3 default, i too wonder what happen with former default(she's my canon)

[jakenou]

SaturnRing wrote...

Although i do not dislike the new ME3 default, i too wonder what happen with former default(she's my canon)

Saturn - she is still in there. She is the first preset in the customization mode. She looks a little different of course, as everyone does, but it's definitely her. I started a photo album of her - social.bioware.com/935398/albums/1325327

I hope to put together some sort of chronicle of Plain Jane at some point

[meonlyred]

@Yukidama,
I agree, I'm perfectly fine with Shepard dying. I prefer her dying than the crew being stranded. That ending leaves such a bitter taste in my mouth.

[SkaldFish]

adneate wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...
It can't be that bad!

It really is, this game crashes and burns in the most destructive spectacular way I've ever seen. It doesn't just destroy the game, it destroys the trilogy and nukes the entire IP into blackened ash.

The drop off in quality is about as aburpt as falling off a cliff 200 feet on to jagged rocks. One minute it's good then it's unbearably horrible to the point of physical revulsion.

I'll just go ahead and say it: Mac Walters strikes again.

Looks like "somebody" got so caught up in the melodramatic opportunities that they forgot all about the primary story arc and all the things that make RPGs compelling and replayable. Instead of seeing a very real opportunity for multiple endings that would actually make contextual sense, the writers decided to turn the whole trilogy into a heroic tragedy, then bludgeoned the plot and the characters to make them fit.

I truly enjoyed (and was very impressed by) the entire game until the very end, when Walters apparently decided to pack every tired trope he could think of into less than 30 minutes of game play. The worst part, IMO? It effectively clawed back every rewarding moment in the entire trilogy and made it no longer worth a replay.

I'm not seeing people flock to buy any ME3 DLCs, that's for sure.

[Tup3x]

jkthunder wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

Although i do not dislike the new ME3 default, i too wonder what happen with former default(she's my canon)

Saturn - she is still in there. She is the first preset in the customization mode. She looks a little different of course, as everyone does, but it's definitely her. I started a photo album of her - social.bioware.com/935398/albums/1325327

I hope to put together some sort of chronicle of Plain Jane at some point

Sadly, first preset isn't Jane. Never has been.

SaturnRing wrote...

Tup3xi wrote...

At least there's Shepard VI:
/snip
It looks like they randomize some face features for that.

btw at what point did you get the falcon? i'm desperately chasing it.

Cerberus station AFAIK. I missed it as far as I can tell.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 11 mars 2012 - 12:05 .

[Yumi50]

I didn't plan on taking photo on my first playthrough. But well, can't resist myself anw 

Diana Shep

Modifié par Yumi50, 11 mars 2012 - 12:06 .