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#7426
Shenzi

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Hello everyone, it’s been a few months since I signed off of BSN to avoid spoilers for ME3.

I finished ME3 a few days ago and thought that it was an amazing game up until the last 5 minutes of the game. So until we get DLC to fix the endings and give us closure I am going the head canon route for the conclusion to my various Shepards stories. Quantumparadigm’s one shot - Proud of You is how I decided Kate’s story end.

And just a few pics of Kate, she translated fairly well to ME3 though I did have to make a few adjustments to her to get her looking to the same to me.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

Jane Shepard wrote...

So many Shepard/Kaidan pictures! Damn, now I feel guilty for romancing Jacob...

You shouldn't in ME2 Jacob was the sweetest guy. He let you vent and didn't let what happen with his father burden him. now in ME3 they just kill his character because they thought no one romanced him and even if you did they just laugh at you and tell you to romance someone else..Posted Image


Indeed he was :) I still love him in ME2. Didn't expect I did not expect that our romance will end like this... :(


Well, about the endings...  I already saw them. Yeah, I thought Shepard can go back to Earth and see her love again... Or something else... But as for me these are very realistic. There is no magic or something in this story. I love my Shepard very much. But if she must sacrifice herself to save others, she will do what she must. The Reapers can't be defeated by a single shot after all, they are very powerful. These endings show how insignificant one person is on the scale of the universe. But at the same time this one person can change the fate of the entire galaxy. That's what Shepard did. All our Shepards are heroes.

After watching the endings I got an idea of a  video (along with a fan trailer), which shows Jane's last thoughts (her adventures in ME1, ME2 and ME3) before she completes her final mission. I'll do them when I finish the game :)

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sagequeen wrote...

gotcha. okay, that's what i figured.

good thing i'm a good deal renegade and i don't trust synthetics much.

^_^

You know, despite all the other... controversy over the endings, having Shepard limp off towards the right option, gun in hand, then becomming more steady and just blasting away was pretty interesting to see in its own right. Thinking is overrated. I have a carnifex.

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That is not a glare you mess around with.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

and even with the paramour romances there's no balance. the VS does disappear after the third main mission after Mars (when they're released from the hospital) they aren't available for vid comm, they don't send you emails and when you do see them they shoot at you through and elevator ceiling (granted they don't know it's you) and even when they do know it's you they STILL hold a gun to you and if you don't take the paragon interupt one of your squadmates shoots them and that probably kills them. You can seriously let your squadmates shoot your love...


  Heh, I actually like the standoff between Shepard and Kaidan. It gave us a different perspective of seeing him in action and it brought even more tension to Udina's betrayal.

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I'd prefer the VS-Shepard stand off more if they'd kept up the 'they don't quite trust you yet' theme they had going on Mars. After chatting in the hospital several times, you'd think they'd be a bit more reluctant to point a gun at each other.

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bleetman wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

gotcha. okay, that's what i figured.

good thing i'm a good deal renegade and i don't trust synthetics much.

^_^

You know, despite all the other... controversy over the endings, having Shepard limp off towards the right option, gun in hand, then becomming more steady and just blasting away was pretty interesting to see in its own right. Thinking is overrated. I have a carnifex.

http://cloud.steampo...62E4361E3C0A79/

That is not a glare you mess around with.


This is true. and that's what i loved about it.

Shepard was a hero right until the end. she kept moving, always moving. i thought i was going to die hearing kaidan say his goodbyes. i thought he was dead in the wake of that last attack and you get a gun and keep going. brutal, but i loved that.

endings out of left field in a major way, i felt. i had my OWN 3 choice ending, actually, so seeing 3 choices was like 'whoa, deja vu.' but i liked mine better.

alright, damn it. that's it. i'm going to write it out. 

Also, VS story arc? omg, some of the best writing in the game. i was sad they dropped the ball so much in other parts, but THAT was like heaven to me.

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^before i got the renegade scarring off. kyrie had a rough go of it.

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Depends on the reputation you have with either of them.

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bleetman wrote...
Thinking is overrated. I have a carnifex.

That is not a glare you mess around with.


Indeed. I'm just going to imagine shes shooting the catalyst in that screenshot :P

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@sagequeen,
Well said and that is exactly how I feel.

Spoilers HOOOOOOOO!
The game was Mass Effect until the last five minutes of the game. And may I stress the point that I hands down loved this game until the end. I got everything I wanted out of this game up until that point. I just got the feeling that it in the end didn't matter that I saved the Rachni or converted the Geth because everything get screwed over in the end.

To top it off none of the choices fit what my Shepard would pick, she went from being the Commander of armies to someone who gets cowed into picking what horrible way you want the galaxy to fall into, by the god/controller/whatever of the Reapers.

My impressions on the endings:
Control: Shepard is evaporated and 'dies' and now can somehow control the Reapers. The Relays are destroyed but the Citadel remains, which closes. Crew get stranded on unknown planet. I really don't care for this one because it seems so weird and out there. Shepard becomes the conscious if the Reapers? Is that what they are getting at? Plus its the end TIM who was indoctrinated tells you to pick. Somehow I don't entirely believe that is a good idea.

Synthetic: Shepard jumps in a beam of light and dies(?). The Relays, Citadel, and Reapers are destroyed. Crew gets stranded on unknown planet. I don't like this one either because I feel like it makes those who survive no longer who they are. They are no longer human, salarian, asari, krogan, etc. They are something else. I can't help but believe that everyone loses what they were, their individualism. I could totally be wrong about that. There are several characters in the series who would be okay with this, but there are also those who struggle with their 'humanity' enough that something like this would be hell for them.

Destory: Shepard shots tube, lives/dies depending on your War Assets. The Relays, Citadel, Reapers, and all synthetics are destroyed. And crew is yet again stranded on unknown planet. I hate this one too because all the work you put into getting the Geth and Quarians to get along and if you told EDI and Joker to go for it is all completely undone.

Where is the fourth option where Shepard points a gun at the kids head and tells him she isn't going to stand for this kind of BS, to turn off the Reapers now or she will blast his ghost ass back to the after life? Why can't you turn and point at the battle going on around you and say "Look! Synthetics and organics are united against you. It might not be perfect forever but let us give it a try." It seems the only options we have either destory synthetics or join synthetics.

Let me be very clear I didn't expect a rainbows and butterflies ending, but I did expect an ending where the game explains to me WTF I just seen. Maybe Liara (or that horrible forced voice actor Grandpa at the end) hundreds of years telling a child (and us) what each ending meant and the results of your choice. "And so Shepard picked *blank* which means *blah blah blah* and Garrus and Tali starved to death because we didn't have food for them to eat. (Or they didn't because Shepard picked the Synthetic ending so we are all half robots anyways) And it was many years before someone with FTL found us so we all didn't slowly die off one by one from wild life/disease/accidents."

Fable 2 did something simliar to this. Three choices, Sacrifice: everyone who died in the creation of the tower is brought back to life but your family and dog remains dead. Love: Your family and dog are brought back to life but all those who died in the tower stays dead. Greed: Everyone who died stays dead and you get a million gold. But each of those choices were completely different from each other. The ending was the same but everyone got what they wanted. The bittersweet ending, the happy ending, and they evil ending.

Modifié par meonlyred, 13 mars 2012 - 07:13 .


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sagequeen wrote...

I think THIS is what got me. Until now, the game is in what I assume is 'our' possible world, as it were. it seems material only, but maybe it's not. maybe there's more. maybe its infinite, maybe it's finite. but the ending pre-supposes that organic and synthetic life are forever and endlessly entwined, which is either nonsenical (the latter has to be created by the former) OR it puts you into an infinitely regressive pattern where there IS no beginning and organic creates synthetic all the way back to the beginning of a repetative cycle universe. but i find THAT incoherant. you may not believe in a first cause for organics, but it seems obvious to me there must be one for synthetics. so if that's true, then this 'cycle' seems contrived. if it's not true, then the cycle is infinitely regressive and we are now being forced to accept a metaphysic of this universe that was NOT in play at the beginning of the series.

not sure if i'm making sense there. short story: a lot of scientific theory that was not in the games previously is being switched and forced on the story at the end.


Right.

And if this 'merged synthetic/organic' life is the 'best' solution to the organics vs. synthetics problem, I'm not sure why those who created the Reapers/God!Kid didn't simply do that instead of creating the Reapers to deal with the problem.  They had the technology since they incoporated it into the catalyst/God!Kid.

It's like, "Hey, we have the best solution and we will program this A.I./catalyst to 'know' it's the best solution... but we're going to create another one that kinda sucks and kills a lot of organics anyway, lol."

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sagequeen wrote...


Oh!? so shep's living (given gate right or gate left, i assume middle is dead for good) is based on MP? how much MP? i was at 85% readiness and got shep taking a gasping breath at the end.

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is that all? could i have gotten more?

totally asking for spoilers there, btw.


    I started a thread that didn't get many replies so maybe you can give me an idea of how long it took to reach 85% readiness through the multiplayer?

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Well i don't think i will ever need to give my two cents about the endings since Red absolutely said everything i could've said myself. *bows to Red* I also got to say that i didn't expect a sunshine&bunnies&butterflies ending. What i did expect was an ending that didn't make me want to stab someone with a fork.

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meonlyred wrote...

Where is the fourth option where Shepard points a gun at the kids head and tells him she isn't going to stand for this kind of BS, to turn off the Reapers now or she will blast his ghost ass back to the after life? Why can't you turn and point at the battle going on around you and say "Look! Synthetics and organics are united against you. It might not be perfect forever but let us give it a try." It seems the only options we have either destory synthetics or join synthetics.


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Chignon wrote...

meonlyred wrote...

Where is the fourth option where Shepard points a gun at the kids head and tells him she isn't going to stand for this kind of BS, to turn off the Reapers now or she will blast his ghost ass back to the after life? Why can't you turn and point at the battle going on around you and say "Look! Synthetics and organics are united against you. It might not be perfect forever but let us give it a try." It seems the only options we have either destory synthetics or join synthetics.


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sagequeen wrote...

Also, VS story arc? omg, some of the best writing in the game. i was sad they dropped the ball so much in other parts, but THAT was like heaven to me.

I wouldn't really agree, but then I had Ashley alive. Her friendship stuff with my Shepard was somewhat underwhelming, really. Didn't help that it went from "I don't really trust you yet" to "hey come visit me in hospital and let me tell you all about my sisters", to "back off Shepard, I'll shoot you", to "hey can I join your crew?" with no real inbetween. Or ability to tell her to screw off, for that matter.

I imagine it's different as a romance, the scenes I had with Garrus were pretty damn impressive.

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Chignon, I love you. That is all.

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Flies_by_Handles wrote...

sagequeen wrote...


Oh!? so shep's living (given gate right or gate left, i assume middle is dead for good) is based on MP? how much MP? i was at 85% readiness and got shep taking a gasping breath at the end.

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is that all? could i have gotten more?

totally asking for spoilers there, btw.


    I started a thread that didn't get many replies so maybe you can give me an idea of how long it took to reach 85% readiness through the multiplayer?


took me about...5 hours of playing MP? but i had some teams that kept dying and i was playing really poorly. took me a while. 

also, i notice you loose 1% every 24 hours (reaper pushback). Do a MP session run when you're ready to finish off the game, i think.

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Chignon wrote...

*snip*


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can't stop laughing

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@ Red and Jlb:

Thought that it might cheer you up!

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2leggywillow wrote...

I can't get this ending to trigger for me.  :/  I'm almost positive that it's a glitch at this point, but I can't find anyone else who's had the same problem.  Got my GR up to 100%, which gave me an EMS of close to 7000.  That should have been enough to get the "Shep breathing!" cutscene after picking Destroy no matter how the final conversation with TIM went down, although I successfully Paragoned AND Renegaded it--no difference.  No cutscene.  :/  It really, really bothers me.

I haven't forgotten this! I found a reader comment on an article which would seem to explain why you can't get this ending. Maybe you can try it out and see if it works?

According to the ending guides that are posted
around the internet, in order to get the ending where Shep lives, you
can't do it that way if you maxed out your military strength. It only
happens with Anderson living from 4,000 to 5,000 points (this is the
total numger that I forget the name for at the moment and not the
effective military strength after the adjustment based off of galactic
readiness). Over 5k, in order to get Shep to live, you've got to let
Anderson get killed and choose destroy.



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Two things.

Firstly, is it just me or is the default femshep a brunette?

Secondly, re: the endings. Spoilers that emerged appear to be true (I haven't got there yet), but these strike me bad endings (almost worthy of Star Trek - then again ME was compared to it). A shame 'cause the rest of the game (or the bits I've played) are brilliant (though less sure about EDI / Joke thing and inclusion of dream sequences!). I don't mind the sacrifice endings (Dragon Age Origins for example) - but how can the relays be destroyed and not wipe everything out and doesn't the Normandy take part in the final battle, how does it go from Earth to some random place!

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sagequeen wrote...




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she looks awesome, specially on that pic; not done playing the game myself, but i like what you said.

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I know a lot of people are ragging on the ending but did
anyone else think their Shepard looked amazing all beat up? I thought my Shep
was nice looking throughout the three games but I had never seen her more
beautiful than when she was so beaten and tired but trying to hold on.

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 Tho even if I am a one Turian kind of woman, I just LOVE this screenshot of Kaidan and Shepard.

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:o Give me some!