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[TheMarshal]

From the Mass Effect Facebook page:

We are aware that there are concerns about a recent post from this account regarding the ending of the game. In this post it was stated that at this time we do not have plans to change the ending.

We would like to clarify that we are actively and seriously taking all player feedback into consideration and have ruled nothing out. At this time we are still collecting and considering your feedback and have not made a decision regarding requests to change the ending.

Your feedback and opinions are of the utmost importance to us. We apologize for any confusion this has caused. Our top priority regarding this discussion is to keep communication with you, our loyal fans, open and productive.

Sounds like business double-speak to me, but who knows? Maybe I WON'T have to rely on headcanon to resolve this series!

eta:

Morose Alice is morose.

Modifié par TheMarshal, 19 mars 2012 - 06:05 .

[Ashwraith]

Sinapus wrote...

Oh well, at least I know which point to stop and start imagining my own ending. Metaphorical martial arts blocking/evading said punch.

Word.

I mean, hell, I've all but blocked out the endings in favor of my own. As far as my headcanon's concerned, the Reapers fled the galaxy after a joint effort by Cerberus and the Alliance flooded their programming with a
combination of shock pictures and Epic Sax on endless loop. Everyone went out for drinks together.

Shepard then high-fived her squadmates, told the Illusive Man he'd damn well better set up a second chair in his Floaty Space Office or she was taking his, and spent the next six weeks in Fiji, getting hammered and prank-calling the Citadel.

Also my Shepard kept one of the Reapers. He has the personality of Space Core, and enjoys wearing Mardi Gras beads on his tentacles. She affectionately refers to him as 'Big Chris'.

Because really, I ask you, what is the point of having a headcanon unless you can make it as over-the-top ridiculous as possible?

Modifié par Ashwraith, 19 mars 2012 - 06:02 .

[aimlessgun]

AVPen wrote...
Honestly, I'm having a real super-f***ing hard time finishing any of my FemSheps playthoughs, because I know no matter what choices I've made and no matter what impact my decisions have made in the galaxy.... it's all for naught, because ultimately, every single one of my characters will reach the same ending. 

Amusingly, I only have one canon femshep, and for some reason I'm perfectly happy to replay the same story and same decisions multiple times, like a favorite movie or something. Maybe why I can stand doing playthrough 2. 

I cannot play my broshep though. No desire at all to do that playthrough. If I had other femsheps it would probably be the same. 

Speaking of...more screenshot dumping. 

Dealing with some ****s at the conference.


Sometimes her true feelings about Wreave surface.


Goin' into Sur'kesh


"Are you sure you'r not conducting highly illegal genetic experiments here?"


For some reason I really like this shot of Shep taking cover. Made it my wallpaper.

Modifié par aimlessgun, 19 mars 2012 - 06:02 .

[HurricaneGinger]

QwibQwib wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

Here's my deal, truthfully. I don't want to be a jerk, because hey, if it IS a nifty bit of writing re: indoctrination and a slew of DLC is coming in which we actually do what the game advertised and hey, Take Back Earth (hello!?), then I want to be able to say, "Oh, gosh, thank you bioware! you shouldn't have! oh, who am i kidding? yes you should. gimme, gimme."

If all becomes clear, I will say, 'yes, i doubted you for a moment, but thanks.' it's really too soon to say, since clearly this is moving on business model time. in my gamer time, however, it's kind of agonizing to be reeling from the ending and really sad about it.

Plus, it's HARD to be sad over this because it's not something you can really talk about IRL. my dad caught i was feeling bad when he called on the phone and it's not like i can say, 'oh, yeah, me? i'm totally in mourning over a video game that may or may not have eaten up 5 years of my fan life and then spat me up on the pavement" seriously. no, instead, i say, 'oh, didn't get much sleep. don't mind me.'

eh. it may work out fine. we may all get the DLC we crave. we may not. it may suck. but for today, i have hit 'refresh' on the twitter too much. i need try and write something. that always makes me feel sane again.

maybe i'll write a story about duckies. that would be a good counterpoint to this madness. duckies that eat starchildren....

Agreed on this point.  On the surface it seems like such a superfluous thing to be upset about, but when you think about how much time, thought, and emotion went into our Shepards, it makes sense.  It's just not something that can be explained to anyone who hasn't gone through the same thing.  My wife is working through the game right now, so I can't really bring up the ending with her, but in all honesty even once she's done it'll be difficult for us to relate simply because I've sunk so much of me into my Shepard and she's had a less intense experience so far.

I really wish I wasn't in grad school right now, 'cause I have had major cravings to write ever since I popped the disc in the drive...

When i finished the game..i was crying in silence, I couldn't even cry in fron't of my boyfriend because i was afraid of what he might think of me. I cried for days and days. I played  "I Was Lost Without You" from the sountrack and making myself more depressed. surpressing your feels sucks...horribly.

Well, let me tell y'all something.

When the game ended, I was sort of in shock. I couldn't think, I just stared at the rolling credits maybe hoping for some surprise at the end. When nothing came, I just got up and went into the kitchen to wash the dishes. My mother walked in, looked at me and asked if I was okay. I burst out in tears and told her everything about the damned ending. She may not have understood fully, but she understands how emotionally involved I get with video games and books. I make them a part of me, so I suffer if something horrible happens. I've spoken to her about the games, she knows how much I love them. She told me she was sorry I was hurting so bad, and hugged me until I stopped crying (which was a good hour later...XD)

So, she may not understand fully but I talk to her about these things. Hell, she bought the collector's edition for me because I thought I had enough money but came up really short - even though I told her the regular copy would be perfectly fine.

I guess what I'm saying is: don't be afraid to tell someone how in love you are with these games. You may find you don't have to suffer, or fangirl alone.

My mom is getting one hell of a Mother's Day gift this year. <3

Modifié par PhantomGinger, 19 mars 2012 - 06:13 .

[CrazyRah]

sagequeen wrote...

Here's my deal, truthfully. I don't want to be a jerk, because hey, if it IS a nifty bit of writing re: indoctrination and a slew of DLC is coming in which we actually do what the game advertised and hey, Take Back Earth (hello!?), then I want to be able to say, "Oh, gosh, thank you bioware! you shouldn't have! oh, who am i kidding? yes you should. gimme, gimme."

If all becomes clear, I will say, 'yes, i doubted you for a moment, but thanks.' it's really too soon to say, since clearly this is moving on business model time. in my gamer time, however, it's kind of agonizing to be reeling from the ending and really sad about it.

Plus, it's HARD to be sad over this because it's not something you can really talk about IRL. my dad caught i was feeling bad when he called on the phone and it's not like i can say, 'oh, yeah, me? i'm totally in mourning over a video game that may or may not have eaten up 5 years of my fan life and then spat me up on the pavement" seriously. no, instead, i say, 'oh, didn't get much sleep. don't mind me.'

eh. it may work out fine. we may all get the DLC we crave. we may not. it may suck. but for today, i have hit 'refresh' on the twitter too much. i need try and write something. that always makes me feel sane again.

maybe i'll write a story about duckies. that would be a good counterpoint to this madness. duckies that eat starchildren....

I totally know how that feels. I've pressed refresh on twitter a good 232323 times too many at least. The endings feel like a really bad punch to the face followed by a kick in stomach. In IRL i got no one to talk about it and so far my family hasn't picked up on me feeling bad because of a game that have eaten so much time of my life and that i gave willingly. I think they still believe i'm bored/tired instead of just empty.

Oh i'm so going to read that story if it ever happens! I've already talked on the femshep chat and on mumble about what i will do with the space i will get if ME3 stays as it's right now. I considered filling the space with pictures of ducks


Quite accurate on how i feel at times

[Gilsa]

@mnomaha and JECW -- Thanks for responses. Looks like I got confused with the comments I read in another thread then.

[Sinapus]

CrazyRah wrote...
Oh i'm so going to read that story if it ever happens! I've already talked on the femshep chat and on mumble about what i will do with the space i will get if ME3 stays as it's right now. I considered filling the space with pictures of ducks

Duck Hunt 2187: Try Laughing NOW, Dog...

Modifié par Sinapus, 19 mars 2012 - 07:20 .

[Fraevar]

Ottemis wrote...

I mean to say that the endings made sense to me, starchild made perfect sense to me, and I was not at the least conflicted about his role or what he was telling me.
That the ending I picked initially gave me  a great sense of peace, because I KNEW I made the choice best for the entire galaxy. That that choice transcended Shepard, her crew, LI etc, because it would 'fix' the fabric of the universe.

StarChild made perfect sense to me...from a Reaper perspective. I'm inclined to believe the Indoctrination Theory, simply because of how StarChild talks up the Blue and Green options, the ones where the Reapers get to live, while telling Shepard: "I know you've thought about destroying us." when referencing the Red option. The choice of words there seems like a slip-up on its part, since it called the Reapers: "My solution" a few lines before. And the way it refers to order and chaos sounds a lot like how Sovereign spoke of it. As sage pointed out, the Green option of synthesis is based on uniformity. Of forcing all life into a new framework...kinda like how the Reapers harvest civilizations.

And finally, I noticed that in the Blue and Green ending, Shepard staggers over to the stations and zaps herself/dives into the beam, at which point we see her with TIM eyes. But in the Red ending, after she fires the first rounds into the control, she seems to pick herself up and get her strength back. So in those last seconds, she's Commander Shepard again, not whatever the Reapers/StarChild prefers her to be.

On that level I'm fine with the ending, what I dislike is the lack of closure for the crewmates. Didn't really feel anything at the end with Stargazer, I wanted to see what Shepard bought with her life...(or not, depending on your EMS score).



femShep doesn't like.

Modifié par Delerius_Jedi, 19 mars 2012 - 08:26 .

[CrazyRah]

Sinapus wrote...

CrazyRah wrote...
Oh i'm so going to read that story if it ever happens! I've already talked on the femshep chat and on mumble about what i will do with the space i will get if ME3 stays as it's right now. I considered filling the space with pictures of ducks

Duck Hunt 2187: Try Laughing NOW, Dog...

I would almost pay for that!

[aimlessgun]

My problem with indoctrination is that...why does shooting a big propane tank mean you 'resist' indoctrination any better than any other solution?

I can maybe see the argument with synthesis, because maybe youre like putting yourself into a submitting state of mind to distribute your life force to the galaxy or whatever ridiculous idea was behind the green beam. But control? If this is an indoctro-hallucination, why would choosing control be equivalent to submitting to indoctrination? 

Also, the catalyst sucks at steering you away from red, tbh. Why does he show Anderson at Red and TIM at Blue? That's an incredibly powerful emotional push towards red. Why doesn't he mention that EDI will die when he's talking about the consequences of Red? Shep is likely to be emotionally attached to EDI. 

And tricking players into choosing one of three 'actual' endings, and then saying "BZZZZT NOPE, two of those are wrong!" when most of us didn't even want to choose any of them is just....ugh. 

If indoctrination is 'true' (or made true), they'd have to go with it just revealing Shep's preferences but is essentially meaningless: regardless of choice you end up back in the rubble in London. 

EDIT: Fun reversal: in Red, Star Child is tricking you into literally shooting the crap out of your superweapon. Sounds like that's exactly what the reapers want. 

Modifié par aimlessgun, 19 mars 2012 - 08:08 .

[Cyansomnia]

http://angryjoeshow.com/2012/03/top-10-reasons-we-hate-mass-effect-3s-ending/

This. So much this. Pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 19 mars 2012 - 08:06 .

[meonlyred]

Aislinn Trista wrote...



*sniff*  

I know I've told you this before but I just love this screen shot of yours. Its just beautiful. Holly and Thane. La siiiiigh. Not fangirling over your Shepard and Thane at all. Ahem....

Chignon wrote...

meonlyred wrote...

I feel the same Sage. I was hoping for an open ended ending something like.

Shepard
is standing on the bridge of the Normandy over looking Earth. Scene
cuts to people rebuilding, captains commanding troopers. Shepard turns
to look out into the void of space. "Joker," she says with smile, "those
stars are awful far away. Bring them to me."
Joker gives a light laugh, "Aye, aye, ma'am."

Or Shepard has a LI and they are alive at the end of the game, maybe this.

Shepard
speaking with the heads of the allied races, human, asari, turian,
salarian, etc. They are speaking of rebuilding, of alliances and hope. A
ray of hope after all the pain and lose they have endured. Shepard nods
and turns leaving the room. Stepping out the door she hears, "Hey."
Turning she sees love interest leaning against the wall arms cross. S/He smiles, "Ready to get out of here."
Shepard returns the smile, "Hell yeah."

Was
that so hard?! No!! Give us a win or a heroic death but leave it open
ended enough that we can fill in the blanks. Trying to fill in the
blanks with the current ending is just depressing as hell.

Can we just print this out and send it to BioWare? Please? You have no idea how much I want this.

Rana quoted me and posted it in the Suggestions Thread. But we can always mail it, email it, fax it, tweet it, facebook it, slide it under Hudson and Walter's bedroom doors. You know shalker stuff.

And for no reason at all PICTURES!!


Z. Shepard: "Alright we'll set up defensive positions... are you guys listening...What the... Seriously!?! Seriously guys!?!"

And hopefully to help Aislinn feel better...

Z. Shepard: "Wait Kai Leng! You forgot your bullets!!"

[mnomaha]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

http://angryjoeshow.com/2012/03/mass-effect-3-angry-review-2/

This. So much this. Pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.

Did you see the link on there? Takes you to another site where you can add your .02. I totally did, of course.

[Fraevar]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

http://angryjoeshow.com/2012/03/top-10-reasons-we-hate-mass-effect-3s-ending/

This. So much this. Pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.

Saw it last night, he's right about soo much.

[Discrepancy]

http://i43.tinypic.com/2hoaik1.jpg

Oh, Garrus...

Modifié par Discrepancy, 19 mars 2012 - 08:32 .

[ELE08]

Sinapus wrote...
The groin punch at the end that people are reporting are definitely stomping on my enthusiasm. <_<

You can do it.  Really, it is a good game.  How is your selective memory?  

Well, you might like the ending.  More likely, you might not hate the ending 

Ashwraith wrote...

Sinapus wrote...
Oh well, at least I know which point to stop and start imagining my own ending. Metaphorical martial arts blocking/evading said punch.

Word.
I mean, hell, I've all but blocked out the endings in favor of my own. As far as my headcanon's concerned, the Reapers fled the galaxy after a joint effort by Cerberus and the Alliance flooded their programming with a combination of shock pictures and Epic Sax on endless loop.&nbsp;Everyone went out for drinks together. 
Shepard then high-fived her squadmates, told the Illusive Man he'd damn well better set up a second chair in his Floaty Space Office or she was taking his, and spent the next six weeks in Fiji, getting hammered and prank-calling the Citadel.
Also my&nbsp;Shepard kept one of the Reapers. He has the personality of Space Core, and enjoys wearing Mardi Gras beads on his tentacles. She affectionately refers to him as 'Big&nbsp;Chris'.
Because really, I ask you, what is the point of having a headcanon unless you can make it as over-the-top ridiculous as possible? 

Oh gosh, is this rhetorical?  

I like your ending better.

...

Gratuitous pics!


I can haz?


What do you mean, 'not a LI'?


Nooooo.  Adept rage.

[meonlyred]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

http://angryjoeshow.com/2012/03/top-10-reasons-we-hate-mass-effect-3s-ending/

This. So much this. Pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.

GASP!!!!!!! He uses one of my screen shots!!! Ahem....

Also, this. This! THIS!!! He has said exactly everything that has bugged the hell out of me about the ending. The things I can not in no way shape or form can accept.

[Discrepancy]

I've got a question! Could anyone post a link to how I can use the default femshep's textures in Gibbed for Mass Effect 3? I want to take some epic screenshots for a wallpaper!

[Sinapus]

ELE08 wrote...

Sinapus wrote...
The groin punch at the end that people are reporting are definitely stomping on my enthusiasm. <_<

You can do it.  Really, it is a good game.  How is your selective memory?  

Difficult. Getting blunt force trauma in that sort of place tends to be memorable.

Well, you might like the ending.  More likely, you might not hate the ending 

Or the fabled "real ending DLC" might come out by the time I finish all the remaining Sheps... or the next ice age will start and I'll be fleeing glaciers.

[Yumi50]

ELE08 wrote...

Gratuitous pics!


I can haz?


Nooooo.  Adept rage.

:O:O:O:O

Modifié par Yumi50, 19 mars 2012 - 10:32 .

[Tup3x]

meonlyred wrote...

Aislinn Trista wrote...

http://angryjoeshow.com/2012/03/top-10-reasons-we-hate-mass-effect-3s-ending/

This. So much this. Pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.

GASP!!!!!!! He uses one of my screen shots!!! Ahem....

Also, this. This! THIS!!! He has said exactly everything that has bugged the hell out of me about the ending. The things I can not in no way shape or form can accept.

It was full of win. He said pretty much everything that bothered me.

[Lianna sFfalenn]

sagequeen wrote...

Plus, it's HARD to be sad over this because it's not something you can really talk about IRL. my dad caught i was feeling bad when he called on the phone and it's not like i can say, 'oh, yeah, me? i'm totally in mourning over a video game that may or may not have eaten up 5 years of my fan life and then spat me up on the pavement" seriously. no, instead, i say, 'oh, didn't get much sleep. don't mind me.'

I feel this. My fiance's been sick this weekend, so I've been trying to internalise the depression, but he noticed this morning that I was even more grumpy than usual for a Monday. He is being very sweet, bless him, but as far as he's concerned "it's just a game" and he doesn't really get my emotional investment in my Shepard.

Just being able to post where lots of other people feel the same and understand kind of helps. femShep thread therapy!

My current thoughts run that if the StarChild is not just a Reaper-induced hallucination and the choice at the end is to be taken at face value, then it might have been easier to deal with if the concluding scenes didn't actually include the Normandy and crewmates at all. We get the Earth scene with the humans cheering/watching as the Reapers die/leave - add to that some Quarians on Rannoch seeing their relay explode and geth watching with them/dying (if all synthetic life will be snuffed by picking red then show the impact of the choice), the Krogan back on Tuchanka, Asari starting to rebuild in the ruins of Thessia, etc etc. There's still enough ouch in that Shepard sacrificed her life, billions have died and everyone who came to Earth is now stuck there, but it leaves room for hope for the galaxy at large and the fate of the people closest to Shepard completely to imagination.

Before the final scenes I thought that the people I brought with me to the beam were dead - Kaidan was one of them, and so Aki sacrificing herself would not be out of character. She believes in some form of afterlife, and without further input I could've quite happily imagined a Titanic-esque ending where her personal version of The Other Side is reuniting with her love and crew on board the Normandy with no requirement to rush off and save anyone. However, I can't accept that Joker would be running away (is that FTL or a relay jump?) and that he magically managed to pick up the squad when we know they were all on Earth. My synthesis ending, I had Joker and EDI stepping out...head scratch, but okay...followed by Kaidan, which just left me thinking "What? How?!". If they wanted to leave the ending to "lots of speculation", then the scenes they presented for us to speculate on were...less than well conceived.

Aislinn Trista wrote...

http://angryjoeshow.com/2012/03/top-10-reasons-we-hate-mass-effect-3s-ending/

This. So much this. Pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.

Damn, I'm at work and this post has been lunchtime. More catharsis later!

Modifié par Lianna sFfalenn, 19 mars 2012 - 12:54 .

[Tup3x]

What I think about the ending: The Emperor's New Clothes. Someone though that hey, this is art or something like that and somehow managed to make the rest believe that it is good. In reality, it's absolutely nonsensical turd.

[Chignon]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

@QwibQwib

I'm angry and bitter. Nobody wants my company right now. XD

YEAH!  Now you understand why I am mucho pissed off.

I can only offer you my Kai Leng stabbitystabstab screenshot.

[Giggles_Manically]

That pic just goes to prove the old adage.
Never ever bring a knife to an omni blade fight.