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[mccool78]

serious discussion. Here is maybe something to relax a bit:



Femshep begging James: Just a little  ?
How can he resist her? Vega is such a doofus

Modifié par mccool78, 20 mars 2012 - 07:39 .

[SaturnRing]

M8 starblaster.

Modifié par SaturnRing, 20 mars 2012 - 12:10 .

[KateM]

SaturnRing wrote...

krayzi wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

krayzi wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...


Saving as many as possible regardless of wether they're synthetic or organic.

Well, I think that synthesis is the most selfish of all the choices. Shepard decides for all species that they have to live as hybrids. They don't even know about it and are not asked if they want to live that way. 

 i had to make a choice i made one. period . you don't have to agree with it . Besides that's not my canon choice...

I'm not judging you (or your Shep). I just wondered how you think that these fit together

If i do the math more species are saved by synthesis or control. i don't agree with any of those choices but synthesis fit my Jane character better with the prospect of a permanent end to the conflict. Destroy in the other hand fits my canon better( and myself). Or control in the worse case scenario.

With the synthesis choice probably. I'm not so sure about the control ending though because I really find it hard to believe that Shep actually can control the Reapers.

[SaturnRing]

krayzi wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

krayzi wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

krayzi wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...


Saving as many as possible regardless of wether they're synthetic or organic.

Well, I think that synthesis is the most selfish of all the choices. Shepard decides for all species that they have to live as hybrids. They don't even know about it and are not asked if they want to live that way. 

 i had to make a choice i made one. period . you don't have to agree with it . Besides that's not my canon choice...

I'm not judging you (or your Shep). I just wondered how you think that these fit together

If i do the math more species are saved by synthesis or control. i don't agree with any of those choices but synthesis fit my Jane character better with the prospect of a permanent end to the conflict. Destroy in the other hand fits my canon better( and myself). Or control in the worse case scenario.

With the synthesis choice probably. I'm not so sure about the control ending though because I really find it hard to believe that Shep actually can control the Reapers.

Yeah, everything is pretty much an unknown at this point. But i will give it a try. How worse can it get?

[aimlessgun]

krayzi wrote...
With the synthesis choice probably. I'm not so sure about the control ending though because I really find it hard to believe that Shep actually can control the Reapers.

Well from a realistic standpoint, control is much more believable than either destroy or synthesis :happy: 

Synthesis is of course space magic. Destroy is also space magic, since somehow this explosion only destroys "synthetic life", even though the line between 'synthetic' and 'organic' is a formalism invented by human chemists purely for convenience that has no true basis in reality. 

On the other hand, control is just hacking some machines, and thus is by far the least space magicky 

Modifié par aimlessgun, 20 mars 2012 - 12:11 .

[Gilsa]

@meonlyred -- FANTASTIC work on that poster! Love the cool and warm hues you used to set the tone for each choice.

@mccool -- I ran into a funny James moment, but it's so situational that I don't know if you've seen it. If you take James with you on the mission to recover one of the quarian admirals and ask him to shut down the AA gun, he will scratch his head and mumble that he isn't that tech inclined. He ends up kicking the console and Shepard shakes her head with a total "wtf, man" look. =D

[KateM]

@ Saturn: I guess not so much

@aimlessgun: But if control is just hacking why does Shep have to die?

Argh...thinking about those endings gives me a  massive headache 

[AxisEvolve]

My FemSheppy 

[AtlasMickey]

ELE08 wrote...

cgrimm54 wrote...

I'm not going to go turning everyone into part-robots against their wishes.

Atlas Mickey wrote...
Who says anyone's will is going to be violated? Moreover, even if Synthesis were forced on people, what is to stop a Synthesized person from returning to organic form? That is perfectly within their power. 

I doubt every sentient being in the known galaxy wants to be turned into some kind of organic-machine hybrid.

So do I, but it is the destiny of intelligent life. Eventually it's a life or death decision. If you don't want your organic body to be synthetically maintained, then you choose death over life. Without any loss of will nor any sacrifice of all the pleasures that come from being organic, Synthesis is irresistable and in the end as natural as breathing air.

And who's to say once changed, individuals are even the same thinking feeling individuals they were before? Maybe their former being is so altered they don't want to go back, even if their former self would have. You know about as well as I do, which is to say, not at all, because Bioware didn't bother to explain anything. It's all left up to assumptions.

These are exactly the kinds of questions that BioWare SHOULD leave up to us! It is our responsibility to think through these questions ourselves, not just to understand ourselves better, but because this kind of event is actually possible in our lifetimes. Many mainstream scientists involved in AI and neuroscience research believe this could happen in the year 2040, supporting the claim with a comphrensive analysis of measurable and quantifiable trends in technological advancement.

All I know is, it doesn't sit well with me.

It shouldn't. I really have to admit this. When I was first confronted with the evidence presented by Ray Kurzweil laid out in his book "The Age of Spiritual Machines" and eventually expanded on in "The Singularity is Near," which I recommend, I was at first unsettled and eventually terrified. I did not like the idea at all of an explosion of intelligent energy taking me over as it spread its way across the cosmos... yes I was thinking about the Synthesis ending years and years before Mass Effect, lol. Eventually I came to a calm understanding of what intelligence is and now I sincerely believe it's the only way the story could have ended. 

Give it about six to ten years and then see how well it sits with you. 

Modifié par AtlasMickey, 20 mars 2012 - 12:23 .

[meonlyred]

Gilsa wrote...

@meonlyred -- FANTASTIC work on that poster! Love the cool and warm hues you used to set the tone for each choice.

I can't take credit for that. Found it on tumblr.

[SaturnRing]

krayzi wrote...

Argh...thinking about those endings gives me a  massive headache 

Same here.

[2leggywillow]

AtlasMickey wrote...
So do I, but it is the destiny of intelligent life. Eventually it's a life or death decision. If you don't want your organic body to be synthetically maintained, then you choose death over life. Without any loss of will nor any sacrifice of all the pleasures that come from being organic, Synthesis is irresistable and in the end as natural as breathing air.

I don't accept that it's the destiny of intelligent life just because some AI thing I just met told me so.  If you do, that's... cool, I guess, but quite obviously a lot of people need more to go on than that.

AtlasMickey wrote...
It shouldn't. I really have to admit this. When I was first confronted with the evidence presented by Ray
Kurzweil laid out in his book "The Age of Spiritual Machines" and eventually expanded on in "The Singularity is Near," which I recommend, I was at first unsettled and eventually terrified. I did not like the idea at all of an explosion of intelligent energy taking me over as it spread its way across the cosmos... yes I was thinking about the Synthesis ending years and years before Mass Effect, lol. Eventually I came to a calm understanding of what intelligence is and now I sincerely believe it's the only way the story could have ended. 

Give it about six to ten years and then see how well it sits with you. 

...oh so we're talking about... real life now, I guess...  That's... well, okay I'm not even going to touch that.

I will say that it really doesn't matter if you think this is something inevitable in our real world: it wasn't properly addressed and built up to in the narrative.  Perhaps if ME2 had spent more time focusing on Shepard's own hybridization and having the people around her react to it.  As it is all we get is a single line from the Catalyst about "you yourself are part synthetic".

Modifié par 2leggywillow, 20 mars 2012 - 12:40 .

[Gilsa]

meonlyred wrote...

I can't take credit for that. Found it on tumblr.

Well, still a good find. =D

[aimlessgun]

krayzi wrote...
@aimlessgun: But if control is just hacking why does Shep have to die?

Argh...thinking about those endings gives me a  massive headache 

The same mysterious reason the control signal destroys the Normandy's engines?  

Headaches for everyone.

[raziel1980]

AxisEvolve wrote...

My FemSheppy 

Wow...she's cute...love the hair color...she looks quite interesting! 

Modifié par raziel1980, 20 mars 2012 - 12:50 .

[emeraldisle88]

Just wondering has anyone seen a recent post on the ME facebook page and what do ye think of it? It gives me hope that we might get the ending fixed up. I'll cling to any hope at this stage.  I'll just paste the post in here for those of you who haven't seen it;


"We are aware that there are concerns about a recent post from this account regarding the ending of the game. In this post it was stated that at this time we do not have plans to change the ending.
 
We would like to clarify that we are actively and seriously taking all player feedback into consideration and have ruled nothing out. At this time we are still collecting and considering your feedback and have not made a decision regarding requests to change the ending.
 
Your feedback and opinions are of the utmost importance to us. We apologize for any confusion this has caused. Our top priority regarding this discussion is to keep communication with you, our loyal fans, open and productive."

Modifié par emeraldisle88, 20 mars 2012 - 01:29 .

[ladydevil1995]

I support this thread all the way!

[Kilshrek]

Purple seems to be a popular choice for femshep?

I've always had a weakness for red.. and blue..

[LilaNoir]

Just finished the From Ashes dlc. Captured some screenies of Shep and Liara fangirling/annoying Javik:

[sagefic]

This is win. Full up win.

but...

double02 wrote...

I thought this thread was about femshep?

 

Yes, you are right. I could sit and argue for destroy until the end of time, how it is the only right way to go out BUT i see that a lot of people are committed to synthesis. there are some moral decisions i'm totally up in the air about (rachni queen? meeehhh) and others i think there is only 1 right answer (take poor david to grissom academy!). this is the latter for me, but i realize it's not for everyone else.

for the sake of keeping this thread civil as it has been before, we probably should stop arguing the endings. given what we've seen there is either a lot of ambiguity or a LOT of hallucinations going on. until we see DLC, we should probably just stick to femshep love.

anyone with me? <3

[hoodie_gypsy]

Amen!

[AxisEvolve]

raziel1980 wrote...
Wow...she's cute...love the hair color...she looks quite interesting! 

Thanks 

I wanted to do something exotic. I enjoy the purple hair/blue eye combo. There's nothing wrong with simple Shepards, I'm just so used to doing the default that I want to go crazy with my customs. 

NanNoir wrote...
Just finished the From Ashes dlc. Captured some screenies of Shep and Liara fangirling/annoying Javik:

 
I approve!

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 20 mars 2012 - 02:41 .

[raziel1980]

Well...I'm gonna go ahead and show off Alicia Again...before I continue her playthrough tonight...but first a couple of new ones of Gabriella.

Gabriella...from ME 2.



Now Alicia...whom are both Infiltrators...

[Braddock-MIA]

"drank too much at the bar and got wasted, then woke up some place without my clothes on"