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[Discrepancy]

yukidama wrote...

Discrepancy wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Discrepancy wrote...

No love for Jane?

Never been one for defaults.

Well, the thing is, although she might seem default to you, she certainly isn't to me - the moment I created her I wasn't even a member of Bioware Social, heck, I hadn't even heard of this place. I've only been playing the series since late December. I still vividly remember the time I created my Shepard - there's a rather disconcerting lack of ethnic variety in most mainstream video games as well as a rather big gender gap. When I created her I wanted her skin to be a bit dark, her jaw to be a bit wide (to add a hint of 'masculinity'), and gave her gaunt cheeks and rather big cheekbones. I didn't want her to be a generic beauty - I envisaged my Shepard (and still do) as a tough yet sensitive woman with a rather dark past. Her eventual design may be 'default' and 'generic' - because apparently, this look has been done before (see: Teagan), but to me she's perfectly unique. Even though the character creator is limited and we've only got a default set of options, we all still love our Shepards nonetheless - that's certainly the case for me.

My Shepard - Jane - lost her parents at a very early age, only to be shuffled from caretaker to caretaker, only to end up at an overpopulated orphanage where she had a very rough time. This experience hardened her, and she eventually found a way out and ended up in a gang, which was her first real family. 

I thought we were talking about the default appearance? The uncustomizable redhead in the CC. That's the only thing I was referring to. That she is the default is not a matter of opinion, it's a fact...

As for the other topic of conversation here... sigh.

Ooh, right! No - I was referring to my own character (Jane Shepard) - sorry for the misunderstanding! 




She's a one turian kind of woman 

Modifié par Discrepancy, 23 mars 2012 - 11:44 .

[Ottemis]

yukidama wrote...
I thought we were talking about the default appearance? The uncustomizable redhead in the CC. That's the only thing I was referring to. That she is the default is not a matter of opinion, it's a fact...

She was talking about her Shep named Jane coincidentally, and you assumed. This made Discrepancy feel like she had to justify her custom shepards appearance for being arguably not so unique looking.

As for the other topic of conversation here... sigh.

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[mellifera]

Discrepancy wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Discrepancy wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Discrepancy wrote...

No love for Jane?

Never been one for defaults.

Well, the thing is, although she might seem default to you, she certainly isn't to me - the moment I created her I wasn't even a member of Bioware Social, heck, I hadn't even heard of this place. I've only been playing the series since late December. I still vividly remember the time I created my Shepard - there's a rather disconcerting lack of ethnic variety in most mainstream video games as well as a rather big gender gap. When I created her I wanted her skin to be a bit dark, her jaw to be a bit wide (to add a hint of 'masculinity'), and gave her gaunt cheeks and rather big cheekbones. I didn't want her to be a generic beauty - I envisaged my Shepard (and still do) as a tough yet sensitive woman with a rather dark past. Her eventual design may be 'default' and 'generic' - because apparently, this look has been done before (see: Teagan), but to me she's perfectly unique. Even though the character creator is limited and we've only got a default set of options, we all still love our Shepards nonetheless - that's certainly the case for me.

My Shepard - Jane - lost her parents at a very early age, only to be shuffled from caretaker to caretaker, only to end up at an overpopulated orphanage where she had a very rough time. This experience hardened her, and she eventually found a way out and ended up in a gang, which was her first real family. 

I thought we were talking about the default appearance? The uncustomizable redhead in the CC. That's the only thing I was referring to. That she is the default is not a matter of opinion, it's a fact...

As for the other topic of conversation here... sigh.

Ooh, right! No - I was referring to my own character (Jane Shepard) - sorry for the misunderstanding! 

Ah, no worries! Seems I got confused there. 

And just because I saw this in my screencap folder and couldn't stop laughing for a good while:

[Discrepancy]

Hahah! That's a great shot. Peek-a-boo! 

Modifié par Discrepancy, 23 mars 2012 - 11:45 .

[merylisk]

Yeah they should have just done it like DA2.

edit: Making all romance options available to all genders, that is.

Modifié par merylisk, 23 mars 2012 - 11:48 .

[Discrepancy]

Done what like DA2, exactly?



I named her after Jane Austen - literature geeks, ahoy!

[Ottemis]

merylisk wrote...

Yeah they should have just done it like DA2.

Making everyone bi you mean? Gives fox news a heart-attack, even more reason to do it imho.

@Flies_by_Handles: I wouldn't want to see the male romance equivalent myself, no. But like with DA2, I was happy for the ones it made happy, and for me I just pretended they were straight if it was something that made me feel uncomfortable to think about.

If you play the game with a Femshep, then you can easily head-canon him straight, while doing the same or the opposite when you're playing male. It's as hard or uncomfortable as we let it be, in the end.

Afaik you can friendzone Kaid quite easily, so I don't see the issue regardless.

Modifié par Ottemis, 23 mars 2012 - 11:52 .

[Gilsa]

JamieCOTC wrote...

We are creating new content to clarify and add closure as per the request of many loyal fans! That's all. - masseffect
https://twitter.com/...233534146781186

So they are not changing the ending, just going to explain it and charge money for it.

I was happy with the indoctrination theory and not gonna lie, I really hoped they secretly had a DLC ready in the wings after the community had "lots of spectulation!" about what it all meant, but through various sources, it became clear to me that this really was their intended ending all along, that they actually thought it was a good idea. I was looking for spoilers on "final hours" to see if it was worth paying for the app and saw the deleted scenes on youtube where Garrus and Liara died in the Harbringer's beam and Shepard watches all horrified to lose his squadmates. I just sat there stupified that scene even got considered. What made them think this was a good idea? It's obvious to me that they did intend for things to end with a big bang. I kind of think that the closure is going to clarify that Shepard really is separated from her crew for good, breathing in the rubble or no. Will have to wait until April and see.

Modifié par Gilsa, 23 mars 2012 - 11:49 .

[Discrepancy]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Not sure if I like the idea of all characters being potential romances for either gender. I know that Kaidan was intended to be bisexual in ME1, and while I was looking forward to there being a male romance option in the third game, I just cannot accept Kaidan as a legitimate partner for male Shepard. What's done is done, essentially. Bioware instead placed him as a "straight" character in ME1 and because I romanced him with my first Femshep, Devi, it's real hard for me to see him batting for the other side too. I wonder if some others feel the same way?

(This has absolutely nothing to do with opposing same sex romance for femshep or maleshep.)

I'm kind of on the fence on this matter, really - it's a good thing BroShep () has more than one male option, but at the same time it's kind of odd that Kaidan wasn't available before.

[ADLegend21]

I'd prefer if the LI's were universal. more potential character traits, for example a femshep who wanted to link suits wth Tali or an MShep that fell for Jacob.

[nitefyre410]

merylisk wrote...

Yeah they should have just done it like DA2.

edit: Making all romance options available to all genders, that is.

 

This would have been the best route to go... really. 

Its not like  the Dialogue is deceptive or anything.. .hell I turned  Anders down in DA 2  and still was about keep him full friendship.. .Somehow... I feel in ninja-mance with Merrill... just rolled with it after having a fling with Isabella. 

[Hedera]

ADLegend21 wrote...

I'd prefer if the LI's were universal. more potential character traits, for example a femshep who wanted to link suits wth Tali or an MShep that fell for Jacob.

To add to this, I'd like to say that the entire POINT of romance options is to cater to a player's fantasy/desire/shippage.  Having everyone be bi would just, essentially, be more options for the PC.  Unfortunately, it's also a great way to ****** a lot of people off, especially if the characters hit on the PC first.  I would love for all LIs to be romanceable by both genders, but it would be best to start that at the beginning of a series, so the precedent kills the inevitable 'but they were straight before' argument.

[Discrepancy]

cgrimm54 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

I'd prefer if the LI's were universal. more potential character traits, for example a femshep who wanted to link suits wth Tali or an MShep that fell for Jacob.

To add to this, I'd like to say that the entire POINT of romance options is to cater to a player's fantasy/desire/shippage.  Having everyone be bi would just, essentially, be more options for the PC.  Unfortunately, it's also a great way to ****** a lot of people off, especially if the characters hit on the PC first.  I would love for all LIs to be romanceable by both genders, but it would be best to start that at the beginning of a series, so the precedent kills the inevitable 'but they were straight before' argument.

Yes! I wonder how many people would ship Garrus and a Male Shepard...


'Get your hands off my Turian....' ;-) 

Modifié par Discrepancy, 24 mars 2012 - 12:02 .

[sagefic]

Discrepancy wrote...

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Not sure if I like the idea of all characters being potential romances for either gender. I know that Kaidan was intended to be bisexual in ME1, and while I was looking forward to there being a male romance option in the third game, I just cannot accept Kaidan as a legitimate partner for male Shepard. What's done is done, essentially. Bioware instead placed him as a "straight" character in ME1 and because I romanced him with my first Femshep, Devi, it's real hard for me to see him batting for the other side too. I wonder if some others feel the same way?

(This has absolutely nothing to do with opposing same sex romance for femshep or maleshep.)

I'm kind of on the fence on this matter, really - it's a good thing BroShep () has more than one male option, but at the same time it's kind of odd that Kaidan wasn't available before.

I am also on fence. 

I find 'bi' characters in these games are...well, they're not really bi, are they? In games where you romance Fenris with MHawke, Fenris strikes me as gay, not bi. But if you don't romance him, he starts a fling with izzy. izzy clearly IS bi, but if you play MHawke with Merrill, she's straight. Anders gives you that line about Karl being lovers only if you play MHAwke. As FHawke, I totally thought he was straight, given awakening dialog. it's not even like they could swing both ways - it's like in some people's games, they ARE straight, are bi, are gay. if kaidan was into rahna and now MShep, then he's bi? or was gay all along? 

i'm not sure if i'm making sense. my thought: there's a whole lot of headcanon going on. on the one hand, i would love it if they had characters that were gay, bi, and straight and that's just the way they were - that it was part of their characterization and consistent that way. but it doesn't bother me if it shifts for games. i think the weirdness for me is that kaidan and ash were both meant to be bi in me1, then they weren't, then we get that blip about them being canonically straight 'cause shep is, then they change that for kaidan alone. BIZarre. a lot of bizarre goin' on with the romances, i gotta say.

[mellifera]

The devs already said the DA2 characters' sexuality didn't change based on the sex of your Hawke. Karl was still Anders' lover even if you play female Hawke, he just doesn't mention it to her. So the characters presumably are all bisexual regardless. I imagine the same goes for Kaidan in this instance. It doesn't change his attraction to females or FemShep in the slightest, so I don't see why it matters much anyway.

Modifié par yukidama, 24 mars 2012 - 12:08 .

[Nazzren]

So many sexies in this thread. Nice job femsheps!

[Hedera]

yukidama wrote...

The devs already said the DA2 characters' sexuality didn't change based on the sex of your Hawke. Karl was still Anders' lover even if you play female Hawke, he just doesn't mention it to her. So the characters presumably are all bisexual regardless. I imagine the same goes for Kaidan in this instance. It doesn't change his attraction to females or FemShep in the slightest, so I don't see why it matters much anyway.

See, this is what I was trying to say.  Romance is an optional part of the game, and if someone wants to make a gay FemShep, she was limited in her options, and that's what it comes down to: limitations.  I say, the more LIs, the better, because there are more options for the player.  As far as the characters being damaged or made less effective through their sexuality, I just don't see that.  So there's what I think, and in an effort to stay sort-of on topic...

http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium

Note to self: upload more screenshots.

[SaturnRing]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

cgrimm54 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

I'd prefer if the LI's were universal. more potential character traits, for example a femshep who wanted to link suits wth Tali or an MShep that fell for Jacob.

To add to this, I'd like to say that the entire POINT of romance options is to cater to a player's fantasy/desire/shippage.  Having everyone be bi would just, essentially, be more options for the PC.  Unfortunately, it's also a great way to ****** a lot of people off, especially if the characters hit on the PC first.  I would love for all LIs to be romanceable by both genders, but it would be best to start that at the beginning of a series, so the precedent kills the inevitable 'but they were straight before' argument.

 The thing is, I prefer to limit the customization only to my own character. She is someone I can define on my terms. Outside characters should have personalities, preferences, and backgrounds independent of what the player constructs. As a player you adapt to these other characters and find ways to work around them. Making every character a potential romance would feel off. As though their identities aren't really set and it would be hard for me to then take their advances seriously. Hope I'm making some sort of sense.

I could see both working - for example: Ash wouldn't respond well to a renegade Shep while Jack would - for each character there would be a distinct way to seduction.

[merylisk]

I wish Jack were a romance option for Femshep.

[TMA LIVE]

What's everyone's thoughts on Femsheps walking animation on the Normandy?

I honestly don't like it. I don't think my Shepard would be gliding.

[AtlasMickey]

merylisk wrote...

I wish Jack were a romance option for Femshep.

I thought she was... in the second game, at least?

[sagefic]

cgrimm54 wrote...

yukidama wrote...

The devs already said the DA2 characters' sexuality didn't change based on the sex of your Hawke. Karl was still Anders' lover even if you play female Hawke, he just doesn't mention it to her. So the characters presumably are all bisexual regardless. I imagine the same goes for Kaidan in this instance. It doesn't change his attraction to females or FemShep in the slightest, so I don't see why it matters much anyway.

See, this is what I was trying to say.  Romance is an optional part of the game, and if someone wants to make a gay FemShep, she was limited in her options, and that's what it comes down to: limitations.  I say, the more LIs, the better, because there are more options for the player.  As far as the characters being damaged or made less effective through their sexuality, I just don't see that.  So there's what I think, and in an effort to stay sort-of on topic...

http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium

Note to self: upload more screenshots.

how are you getting your femshep to wear the hoodie in this scene? I am SO sick of the whatever she's wearing by default

[Ottemis]

AtlasMickey wrote...

merylisk wrote...

I wish Jack were a romance option for Femshep.

I thought she was... in the second game, at least?

Nope. She doesn't do the girl-club thang (even though she did in the past, but hey!)
I imagine if she had let femshep romance her, she'd also NOT have cried. But that's just me.

Modifié par Ottemis, 24 mars 2012 - 12:33 .