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[zennyrpg]

So I stumbled across Ms. Effect: The Rise of FemShep (most of you have probably already seen this) and I couldn't agree more.  What's so awesome about femshep is that her identity as a woman doesn't overshaddow everything else.  Shepard is awesome and capable and doesn't take sh!t.  She just happens to be a woman.

[TheMarshal]

RainyDayLover wrote...

I'd put Martin Sheen's performance right up there alongside Jennifer Hale's. Their exchange at the end there was amazing. Especially the last line TIM says if you shoot him (renegade option)

"There… Earth. I wish you could see it like I do, Shepard. It’s so… perfect."

So yeah, shooting him is the way to go...and plus I don't like that he commits suicide if you pick the paragon option. Reminds me too much of Saren...

Why not?

TIM: *Blam!*
Shepard: "heh...  2 for 2..."

Modifié par TheMarshal, 28 mars 2012 - 05:54 .

[Ottemis]

Tup3xi wrote...

Sigh... I hate it when you have to use hax to mod the game. Something like texture override folder shouldn't be that hard especially when developers give smartphone grade textures as default. I just can't bother with texmod since it is pita every time you start the game. I prefer fix and forget style tinkering.

Asmuch as I agree, I'm also addicted to shiny things.
Plus with Rainyday's batchfile post, it's no effort to run texmod really. (thnx again for that Rainy)

Modifié par Ottemis, 28 mars 2012 - 06:15 .

[Giant ambush beetle]

''Ok, who of you is responsible for this crappy ending?''



Rannoch night camo

[Demonhoopa]

TheMarshal wrote...

RainyDayLover wrote...

I'd put Martin Sheen's performance right up there alongside Jennifer Hale's. Their exchange at the end there was amazing. Especially the last line TIM says if you shoot him (renegade option)

"There… Earth. I wish you could see it like I do, Shepard. It’s so… perfect."

So yeah, shooting him is the way to go...and plus I don't like that he commits suicide if you pick the paragon option. Reminds me too much of Saren...

Why not?

TIM: *Blam!*
Shepard: "heh...  2 for 2..."

classic

@zennyrpg

Fantastic article.

[merylisk]

Finally downloaded Fraps last night! I obviously immediately went back and took like a million glam shots of Anja Shepard being awesome.

[nitefyre410]

zennyrpg wrote...

So I stumbled across Ms. Effect: The Rise of FemShep (most of you have probably already seen this) and I couldn't agree more.  What's so awesome about femshep is that her identity as a woman doesn't overshaddow everything else.  Shepard is awesome and capable and doesn't take sh!t.  She just happens to be a woman.

  

Interesting read - though I think the problem is not just a female character issues..its a Character issue that boils down two.. 

Emotion = Weakness. 

That any show of emotion  or more any show of vunerable emotion, sadness, sorrow, doubt, love  etc. Is somehow not a  considered  as strong.   For instance think of how many  male characters you see that are actually happy to  fathers.   There seems to be that notion  that any kind of   human vulnerability makes a character some how weak. Which I whole disagree with.... One of  my favoraite scenes in Final Fatansy 13 - there is conversation between Lightning   and Snow  where they are talking to Serah or about Serah and  Gran Pulse.  Its an amazing seen because it shoes an incrediablely human sid to  Lightining has been for most  hell on wheels with  pink hair.   The mask cracks for a moment and it gets across that she damn scared this what they are doing is not going work and  she has so many doubts.  This never express  and Snow never comes out and calls her own but just reassures... its great scene.... love it.    

The same scene happens in the Mass Effect  before  the Chronos station mission in the various romances Shepard   both male or female has the armor strip away and is not the invincible player avatar anymore but an actual character.. that has doubts and fears.  

The Biggest problem with  video game heroes and Heroines is not that fit X sterotype- though that is one of the issues. Its that they are not characters they are simply player avaters , so for the most part they have feel like they invinsiable and fear nothing. Yet, a Hero or a Heorine is not that  they  are characters and  their fears  and how they over come them are part of the story that is told . This is one of the things Mass Effect 3 does right up until the end... 

Now if you would excuse- I have a back gate too fix... will return in a 1 or 2... great read.   


*looks outside* 

Well those clouds are looking rather ominus so It looks no fixing anything for me... damn this storm  blew up fast. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 28 mars 2012 - 06:55 .

[GarethJShep]

lol

[mellifera]

What're you looking at?

[TheMarshal]

Oh the weird things Javik's room does to hair...

[NoxJuked]

yukidama wrote...


What're you looking at?

great pic 

[zennyrpg]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Emotion = Weakness. 

That any show of emotion  or more any show of vunerable emotion, sadness, sorrow, doubt, love  etc. Is somehow not a  considered  as strong.   For instance think of how many  male characters you see that are actually happy to  fathers. 

I'm a woman in computer science (a male dominated field).


Interesting study:

A group of computer scientist researchers made fake resumes and sent them to companies and had the various companies rate how qualified the various candidates appeared.

Statistically, women who put "mother" on their resume were perceived as less qualified.

Men who put "father" on their resume were perceived as more qualified.

Take what you want from that.

Modifié par zennyrpg, 28 mars 2012 - 08:21 .

[KateM]

yukidama wrote...


What're you looking at?

Did your Shep get her old hairdo back?

[Demonhoopa]

@The Marshal - You noticed that too? What's up with that room?
@ZennyRPG - That's really interesting, thanks for sharing
@yukidama - Too funny!

[nitefyre410]

zennyrpg wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Emotion = Weakness. 

That any show of emotion  or more any show of vunerable emotion, sadness, sorrow, doubt, love  etc. Is somehow not a  considered  as strong.   For instance think of how many  male characters you see that are actually happy to  fathers. 

I'm a woman in computer science (a male dominated field).


Interesting study:

A group of computer scientist researchers made fake resumes and sent them to companies and had the various companies rate how qualified the various candidates appeared.

Statistically, women who put "mother" on their resume were perceived as less qualified.

Men who put "father" on their resume were perceived as more qualified.

Take what you want from that.

 

That  Case study... sad , really I can't really say any more that...   

Father = qualified 
Mother = not qualified 

Thats as bad as The Catalyst logic.   

 
http://tvtropes.org/...everWearDresses   

^ maybe this will be better explain what I was trying to say about how most handle female characters in general.   

Which make Shepard unique in a way.. she breaks that mold   


  

[Tup3x]

Ottemis wrote...

Tup3xi wrote...

Sigh... I hate it when you have to use hax to mod the game. Something like texture override folder shouldn't be that hard especially when developers give smartphone grade textures as default. I just can't bother with texmod since it is pita every time you start the game. I prefer fix and forget style tinkering.

Asmuch as I agree, I'm also addicted to shiny things.
Plus with Rainyday's batchfile post, it's no effort to run texmod really. (thnx again for that Rainy)

I may try out eventually, we'll see. If it causes big performance hit I can't use it. I can't use anything else than 8xMSAA and 4xTrSSAA, once you get used to it there's no turning back.

[Captain Crash]

TheMarshal wrote...



Oh the weird things Javik's room does to hair...

I know  

A couple of us discussed this a few pages back.  That room has some fantastic lighting, but the fact all the "transparant gas" messes up the hair texture is a real disappointment.   

To be fair its the only place in the game where its really really noticable.  

[nitefyre410]

Captain Crash wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

*snip* 


Oh the weird things Javik's room does to hair...

I know  

A couple of us discussed this a few pages back.  That room has some fantastic lighting, but the fact all the "transparant gas" messes up the hair texture is a real disappointment.   

To be fair its the only place in the game where its really really noticable.  

 

I think it has something to do with sensor ablie... maybe something that keeps the room clean so he is not over louded with information from who every enters. 

[zennyrpg]

nitefyre410 wrote...

That  Case study... sad , really I can't really say any more that...   

Father = qualified 
Mother = not qualified 

Thats as bad as The Catalyst logic.   

 
http://tvtropes.org/...everWearDresses   

^ maybe this will be better explain what I was trying to say about how most handle female characters in general.   

Which make Shepard unique in a way.. she breaks that mold   

Awesome.  It's crazy how there is a trope for everything.

I remember how happy I was to see my shep in a dress in the Kasumi mission.  She looks good in all situations.

I also love the simple joy of having female characters in full armor.  As a fan of both fantasy and scifi I can't stand it when some dainty chick is running around with bikini armor.  Its not armor if it doesn't cover your body!

My interpretation of the father/mother study is that women who are "mothers" are assumed to care more about their children then work (which they should) to the detriment of their job.  Where as "fathers" are thought to be responsible/ good guys and thus reliable and employable.

[Gilsa]

Interestingly enough, that gas isn't the only place where hair gets messed up. I was playing with the flycam and had gone behind the Shepard VI and noticed that Shepard's hair disappeared through it:



I will say that even though the hair issues can be annoying, Javik's room casts some really intense and arty shadows. This is one of my favorite moments in that room (I think it's after he fights with Liara and apologies and Shepard says something like, "Did you really mean that?"). Look at the mood it creates. I bet that a Shepard with blue or green eyes will really pop out in this scene.



Fun with the flycam on demo Shepard. Good possibilities here.

[TheMarshal]

Gilsa wrote...

Interestingly enough, that gas isn't the only place where hair gets messed up. I was playing with the flycam and had gone behind the Shepard VI and noticed that Shepard's hair disappeared through it:

Funny thing is that with just about any OTHER smoke effect, Shep's hair actually stands out as though it's the only thing that isn't affected by the smoke.

[Gilsa]

In my case, it's the power of peroxide! =p

[Demonhoopa]

zennyrpg wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

That  Case study... sad , really I can't really say any more that...   

Father = qualified 
Mother = not qualified 

Thats as bad as The Catalyst logic.   

 
http://tvtropes.org/...everWearDresses   

^ maybe this will be better explain what I was trying to say about how most handle female characters in general.   

Which make Shepard unique in a way.. she breaks that mold   

Awesome.  It's crazy how there is a trope for everything.

I remember how happy I was to see my shep in a dress in the Kasumi mission.  She looks good in all situations.

I also love the simple joy of having female characters in full armor.  As a fan of both fantasy and scifi I can't stand it when some dainty chick is running around with bikini armor.  Its not armor if it doesn't cover your body!

My interpretation of the father/mother study is that women who are "mothers" are assumed to care more about their children then work (which they should) to the detriment of their job.  Where as "fathers" are thought to be responsible/ good guys and thus reliable and employable.

The Kasumi mission was painful for me. At first I was all "SWEET! She gets to wear a dress". And then I had to endure watching her lumber around the mansion, walking like Rooster Cogburn from True Grit, looking as out of place in those clothes as one could look. Funny how the same thing can look totally different to different folks.

Thank god for the new walking animations.....well at least IN game.

[mellifera]

krayzi wrote...

yukidama wrote...


What're you looking at?

Did your Shep get her old hairdo back?

Yeah, she did. I am extremely indecisive and my toons pay for it haha. Chalk it up to an Incinerate accident or something