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Gilsa wrote...


@raz -- HAH. I love that you've gone both red and blue with your armor. I've been torn over going red or blue because on one hand, I'd like to wear alliance colors and match my squad, but on the other hand, I'm renegade at heart. I want reeeed!  Seeing both colors in your screenshot made me laugh.  =p


Thanks...you must be talkign about Alicia armor...well, she is about HARCORE Renegade now that I finished 'priority: citadel' and she has lost her LI from ME 2... but I decided to make her armor slightly different Allison...with blue added to red n black flavor of my armors...all my MP characters wear a black n red varient of their armors as well.

@Chugster...Ty...if you want her code...send me a pm and I will gladly give it to you...as it is one I found on femshep.com...and wanted to use the character in ME 2 n 3...

Here is another of Selena...I will have more of her after I finish gabriella's ME 2 playthrough...and her ME 3 pics will updated when i get to her in that game...

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nitefyre410 wrote...

zennyrpg wrote...

So I stumbled across Ms. Effect: The Rise of FemShep (most of you have probably already seen this) and I couldn't agree more.  What's so awesome about femshep is that her identity as a woman doesn't overshaddow everything else.  Shepard is awesome and capable and doesn't take sh!t.  She just happens to be a woman.

  

Interesting read - though I think the problem is not just a female character issues..its a Character issue that boils down two.. 

Emotion = Weakness. 


The Biggest problem with  video game heroes and Heroines is not that fit X sterotype- though that is one of the issues. Its that they are not characters they are simply player avaters , so for the most part they have feel like they invinsiable and fear nothing. Yet, a Hero or a Heorine is not that  they  are characters and  their fears  and how they over come them are part of the story that is told . This is one of the things Mass Effect 3 does right up until the end... 

That an interesting point you're making - i like that reference to lightning; that leads me to ask you this:
       Is your canon an extension of yourself or is  Shepard her own character? 
Is she fascinating because you can act out all your inhibitions through her or  do you  approach her as a totally different person - than yourself?  


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SaturnRing wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

*snip* 

That an interesting point you're making; that leads me to ask you this:
       Is your canon an extension of yourself or is  Shepard her own character? 
Is she fascinating because you can act out all your inhibitions through her or  do you  approach her as a totally different person - than yourself?  

 

I approach her as completely different person  from myself.  My Male Shepard Nathaniel is a bit of an extention of myself but not  by much. Kyra is a her own character  complete different.    For instance-  I pair off with Thane because she had a back story of being an  hired gun and assassin while with the Reds. She understands  Thane  as character in way that  head cannoning a relationship between those two is interesting.

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Demonhoopa wrote...

The Kasumi mission was painful for me. At first I was all "SWEET! She gets to wear a dress". And then I had to endure watching her lumber around the mansion, walking like Rooster Cogburn from True Grit, looking as out of place in those clothes as one could look. Funny how the same thing can look totally different to different folks.

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Yeah, I noticed it but it didn't bother me too much.  Totally unfemine animations were the rule of thumb in that game.  I just honestly never thought I'd see shep in a dress.  It was a small win for me :)

I was actually sad to get back into armor and do all the fighting.  I would have liked a more drawn out sneaky/ mingling like a spy dynamic.

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nitefyre410 wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

*snip* 

That an interesting point you're making; that leads me to ask you this:
       Is your canon an extension of yourself or is  Shepard her own character? 
Is she fascinating because you can act out all your inhibitions through her or  do you  approach her as a totally different person - than yourself?  

 

I approach her as completely different person  from myself.  My Male Shepard Nathaniel is a bit of an extention of myself but not  by much. Kyra is a her own character  complete different.    For instance-  I pair off with Thane because she had a back story of being an  hired gun and assassin while with the Reds. She understands  Thane  as character in way that  head cannoning a relationship between those two is interesting.

K. i see your point. i have a totally different approach. I see my canon as an extention of myself. I like to think that her decisions are choices i could live with. That makes the game a little harder to play - as very often the easy way arround things leads to internal conflicts - most of the time. It makes simple terms like paragon or renegade a little deeper - for me at least. It's interesting, within the confines of the game, to push the enveloppe and see how much you can get away with - once you choose that approach.

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Massive Thane-fan squee coming in soon I guess :D

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I see Shepard as her own person (I'm a man but even Sheploo does not feel more like me, Shepard is not me so gender is irrelevat). My canon lone Shep acts rather similar to what I would do (to a point). So basically every Shepard has quite a bit of me in them yet they still are their own persons.

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Jillyfae and Raph wrote a new ending for me. I just thought I'd share it with you because half of you was probably just as disappointed as I was:


Against All Odds

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What happens after the end? A new beginning.


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SaturnRing wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

*snip* 

That an interesting point you're making; that leads me to ask you this:
       Is your canon an extension of yourself or is  Shepard her own character? 
Is she fascinating because you can act out all your inhibitions through her or  do you  approach her as a totally different person - than yourself?  

 

I approach her as completely different person  from myself.  My Male Shepard Nathaniel is a bit of an extention of myself but not  by much. Kyra is a her own character  complete different.    For instance-  I pair off with Thane because she had a back story of being an  hired gun and assassin while with the Reds. She understands  Thane  as character in way that  head cannoning a relationship between those two is interesting.

K. i see your point. i have a totally different approach. I see my canon as an extention of myself. I like to think that her decisions are choices i could live with. That makes the game a little harder to play - as very often the easy way arround things leads to internal conflicts - most of the time. It makes simple terms like paragon or renegade a little deeper - for me at least. It's interesting, within the confines of the game, to push the enveloppe and see how much you can get away with - once you choose that approach.

 

I gernally don't like the renegade response for most part any and even  the don't fit some of the hot head characters that I can character make.. so must of the time its paragon for me, unless its something like the Heretics.   Nathaniel - my Male Shep is definately the closest  to what be consider a RP representation of me.   Interestingly in my Head canon all the three of my Shepards exist ... Nathaniel and Kyra related and Roselynn is a clone. 

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Tup3xi wrote...

I see Shepard as her own person (I'm a man but even Sheploo does not feel more like me, Shepard is not me so gender is irrelevat). My canon lone Shep acts rather similar to what I would do (to a point). So basically every Shepard has quite a bit of me in them yet they still are their own persons.

Same here. :)

My main Shepard (or main character in any video game that allows customization) is the most similar to me, similar in way of decisions and whatnot - and even then they're not entirely "me". Rarely do I create a character who looks and acts exactly like I would.

When I do attempt a character with the same physical features as I have, I make sure to compensate by giving them a personality the exact opposite of mine. Makes things less awkward for me. xD

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@Demonhoopa

If I said what I was really thinking about what you just said, I'd get banned. Thanks for your support and sympathy. Totally awesome.

And I'm done. Goodbye, thread.

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@ Aislinn:

This is not meant to offend any other persons in this threat, but my thinking on the Thane-mance-fail is this:

We need more women playing video games.

And we need more guys who appreciate women playing video games - and writing them, and strong women characters (like femshep) in the games themselves. The industry may not like it, but the shift is happening: more women are gaming, more older women are gaming, more women are BUYING games for themselves, more women are engaging and contributing to the fandoms. and more women are making games, thank god. Yes, just having women on a writing team would not necessarily mean that something like the thane-fumble wouldn't have happened, but here's my thinking: the bioware store Thane t-shirt? it was made only in men's sizes. what's up with that? i ask you. thane dying like he did? TOTALLY  for the bromance. it's the thane t-shirt equivalent of the plot. it's made by men, for men, to make men feel happy about this one man that was manly. the fact that thane mattered to certain women, that he was a romance for their characters and a person they engaged on a deeper level than simply 'fist-bump, yo, let's kill sh*t', seems to have completely fallen off the radar. and i think it happened because the female fans and their interests and desires were totally forgotten and/or ignored in favor of 'the real plot' - translation: what guys would want to see. I often feel that women in gaming are still viewed as an interesting curiousity - sort of a 'we'll make some content for them' as if it were a side note that could be gotten around to when the 'real' work is done - namely, the content for the guys. (as if women and men didn't both want strong plot and to blowing stuff up with big guns. i mean, come on. even guys can appreciate it diminishes the role-play value to kill off thane. what's the point of making an alt for him?).

but here's the thing i guess i'm trying to say:

I *really* hope you don't give up over this. I mean, maybe you'll give up on BioWare, and I would totally not blame you for that. I think a lot of people are in that camp, atm. But I hope whatever you end up doing, that you keep representing in your own way - especially with those awesome videos of yours.

And, um, I thought of sending this to you in a PM, but I'm gonna leave it here as an 'open' letter/post because I kind of think this is something all of us should do: represent for women in games, whether we're women or men who want women playing games.

I mean, as a thread, we got FemShep a TRAILER! It happened because the fans requested it - en masse. I am still astonished that this thread and people on it pulled that off. And a lot of folks didn't like that, because it shook them up and pushed for alternate storylines and suggested their favorite characters might have a different purpose than they thought (the woman can be a strong sister-in-arms instead of a sexy-time girl; the war-buddy might be a sexy-time man). But if we don't ask, it won't happen. And if we don't continue to engage geekdom, then our voices don't get heard. I totally understand and sympathize with your frustration, and I hope you use that frustration to push back against the kind of dismissive mentality that i think gave rise to it.  

So, yeah. that's what i wanted to say to you. Fight the good fight, girl. I'm rooting for you.

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Tup3xi wrote...

I see Shepard as her own person (I'm a man but even Sheploo does not feel more like me, Shepard is not me so gender is irrelevat). My canon lone Shep acts rather similar to what I would do (to a point). So basically every Shepard has quite a bit of me in them yet they still are their own persons.

Like for you gender is not relevant - in that context - I have no trouble creating a character that is her own( actually ME is the only game where i create that extension between my canon and myself) - my 2 other female shep and my sheploo. The reason i consider Deirdre my canon is because she is somewhat a reflection of myself - although not me, but close. When i think of her i do not see myself at all - but more of a clone from a paralel world...if it makes sense.

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Tup3xi wrote...

I see Shepard as her own person (I'm a man but even Sheploo does not feel more like me, Shepard is not me so gender is irrelevat). My canon lone Shep acts rather similar to what I would do (to a point). So basically every Shepard has quite a bit of me in them yet they still are their own persons.


This.

My Sheps have nothing to do with me. I play RPG's kind of like writing a story or watching a movie that I have input into. It's probably why I'm so comfortable playing a female char. It's simply not me any more than Angelina Jolie is when I'm watching Salt or Mr and Mrs Smith.

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Aislinn Trista wrote...

@Demonhoopa

If I said what I was really thinking about what you just said, I'd get banned. Thanks for your support and sympathy. Totally awesome.

And I'm done. Goodbye, thread.


I have no idea what you're talking about but........I'm sorry?

Edit:

I had to read back several pages to find my crime. I made a joke that was a jab at Skyrim's terrible writing. I guess I unintentionally offended Aislinn with my quip. I will send her an apology for the misunderstanding via private message.

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Chugster wrote...

Luxure wrote...

A closer look... shiny!



nice...did you mod the textures at all?

and how did you get those TIM eyes looking so good, i tried to do it myself using the ME2 method but i cant get a good contrast between the black and the colour:



It kinda requires TexMod and Devon Nofrek tpf for it to work. As for the eyes I used the preset that comes with Gibbed and modified the Iris Color and Emis Color abit. 
Eye Iris Color - 0.0.0.1000 ( Alpha is 1000 )
Emis Color - 0.2.5.1000 ( Alpha is 1000, Blue is 5 and Green is 2 )

Sorry for the late answer, but I don't lurk the forums too much, I play alot :o

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Okay... I'm going to weight in the Thane romance deal... since I did have Kyra romance him..

I had no problem with him dying... I saw that as natural progression and conclusion of his story arc, his last fight was fight to protect a life and not to take one against another assassin.

What could have been handle better are 2 things... 1 side quest for people that want to cure him and keep him alive. Sense his death is not like say Mordins or Legions which are tied very closely to the plot and resolving to key conflicts. Secondly better dialogue for a FemShep that romanced Thane, some more emotion.. and couple of tears.. not full blown break down but maybe take his hand ... something to show that they were more than just crew mates and friends. Speaking from personal experience you can prep yourself mentally for when day comes that some who you are close to is terminal dies but that does change the emotional impact of the moment.... Okay that's my take...

*cast absorb flame, Shell, Protect, drinks Fire Resist potion*

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Okay... I'm going to weight in the Thane romance deal... since I did have Kyra romance him..

I had no problem with him dying... I saw that as natural progression and conclusion of his story arc, his last fight was fight to protect a life and not to take one against another assassin.

What could have been handle better are 2 things... 1 side quest for people that want to cure him and keep him alive. Sense his death is not like say Mordins or Legions which are tied very closely to the plot and resolving to key conflicts. Secondly better dialogue for a FemShep that romanced Thane, some more emotion.. and couple of tears.. not full blown break down but maybe take his hand ... something to show that they were more than just crew mates and friends. Speaking from personal experience you can prep yourself mentally for when day comes that some who you are close to is terminal dies but that does change the emotional impact of the moment.... Okay that's my take...

*cast absorb flame, Shell, Protect, drinks Fire Resist potion*


Totally reasonable.

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Aislinn Trista wrote...

And I'm done. Goodbye, thread.


I wish i could say something that would make you change your mind...don't go.

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Okay... I'm going to weight in the Thane romance deal... since I did have Kyra romance him..

I had no problem with him dying... I saw that as natural progression and conclusion of his story arc, his last fight was fight to protect a life and not to take one against another assassin.

What could have been handle better are 2 things... 1 side quest for people that want to cure him and keep him alive. Sense his death is not like say Mordins or Legions which are tied very closely to the plot and resolving to key conflicts. Secondly better dialogue for a FemShep that romanced Thane, some more emotion.. and couple of tears.. not full blown break down but maybe take his hand ... something to show that they were more than just crew mates and friends. Speaking from personal experience you can prep yourself mentally for when day comes that some who you are close to is terminal dies but that does change the emotional impact of the moment.... Okay that's my take...

*cast absorb flame, Shell, Protect, drinks Fire Resist potion*

Yep, it's not so much the dying. Not at all really.
It's the lack of content, the fact you get ONE convo, that she's stoic during the deathscene, not only for the romance, no followup, no recognition, altogether they dropped the ball in huge ways.

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SaturnRing wrote...

Aislinn Trista wrote...

And I'm done. Goodbye, thread.


I wish i could say something that would make you change your mind...don't go.


I sent her a sincere apology. If she doesn't accept, I'll leave so she can come back. I'm not into hurting women's feelings. That's just weak.

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Ottemis wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Okay... I'm going to weight in the Thane romance deal... since I did have Kyra romance him..

I had no problem with him dying... I saw that as natural progression and conclusion of his story arc, his last fight was fight to protect a life and not to take one against another assassin.

What could have been handle better are 2 things... 1 side quest for people that want to cure him and keep him alive. Sense his death is not like say Mordins or Legions which are tied very closely to the plot and resolving to key conflicts. Secondly better dialogue for a FemShep that romanced Thane, some more emotion.. and couple of tears.. not full blown break down but maybe take his hand ... something to show that they were more than just crew mates and friends. Speaking from personal experience you can prep yourself mentally for when day comes that some who you are close to is terminal dies but that does change the emotional impact of the moment.... Okay that's my take...

*cast absorb flame, Shell, Protect, drinks Fire Resist potion*

Yep, it's not so much the dying. Not at all really.
It's the lack of content, the fact you get ONE convo, that she's stoic during the deathscene, not only for the romance, no followup, no recognition, altogether they dropped the ball in huge ways.

I never had Thane as a LI, but he was in my squad in ME 2 on pretty much all missions along with Zaeed or Garrus(snipers rule). The way his character was treated inME3 just won't cut it - even for someone who consider him a friend. Even for Zaeed it was tough... 

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Demonhoopa wrote...

Tup3xi wrote...

I see Shepard as her own person (I'm a man but even Sheploo does not feel more like me, Shepard is not me so gender is irrelevat). My canon lone Shep acts rather similar to what I would do (to a point). So basically every Shepard has quite a bit of me in them yet they still are their own persons.


This.

My Sheps have nothing to do with me. I play RPG's kind of like writing a story or watching a movie that I have input into. It's probably why I'm so comfortable playing a female char. It's simply not me any more than Angelina Jolie is when I'm watching Salt or Mr and Mrs Smith.

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