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[Chugster]

silverhammer08 wrote...

What's the use in still crying about it... the show's over folks.
I hope all the people who did not want the endings changed are happy now.

you do realise that this clarification could be IT....and that all the endings were some sort of bad dream?

IT would make the endings better without changing them

and you really need to cheer up...its only a game....a great game, but a game nonetheless

Modifié par Chugster, 03 avril 2012 - 10:53 .

[Demonhoopa]

TheMarshal wrote...

Sialater wrote...

2leggywillow wrote...

Demonhoopa wrote...

I have no interest in in DLC explaining the ending. The ending is actually pretty easy to understand. It's simply not very good concept wise.

Ha, basically.  I understand it; it was just bad.  Clarifying won't fix that.

And clarifying may ruin the headcanon I've made up to "fix" them myself.

At this point, unless there's a complete rewrite, I'm going to be living out the rest of my days with my headcanon.  Of course, even with my headcanon I don't have a "how it happened".  Just that all my post-ME3 stories continue to have a live Shepard and Mass Relays with no Reapers.

Shepard being dead isn't what makes the endings bad. I'm actually in favor of dead Shepard. It's convoluted crapadoodle that I'm against.

[ELE08]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Uggghhh.....ending talk.

What?! I can't hear you over the music!!

Dance for me Kaidan *hic*


@Jamie - I really liked reading your write-up for Erica and UJ.

I miss more character-centric discussions like that.  It's difficult when the endings loom over everything like they do.  I fall into the same trap.
That said, I do hope to delve more into Teagan's decisions when I get around to doing an actual PT with her.  Some things rattling around upstairs: She didn't save Maelon's data...but does cure the genophage.  Since I don't abide by the given endings...I think this has some implications for post-Reaper defeat, having the Krogan without Eve's stabilizing influence.  Just thinking out loud here.  Move along! Nothing to see!

Modifié par ELE08, 03 avril 2012 - 11:02 .

[Silver]

@Chugster
IT is dead, it was never viable, just a straw that people grasped for.
I didn't buy it and BW is sure as hell not going to follow up on it, in doing so they would admit to having done something wrong, which they will never do. They still think that Dragon Age 2 was a masterpiece, that should tell you something.
Also, I would not be so pissed if they had done a good job with the story from the start, or at least had better endings in the game to begin with.

But seeing as i'm obviously too stupid to comprehend the greatness that is streaming from BW, I might as well shut up and get out of here.

Modifié par silverhammer08, 03 avril 2012 - 10:54 .

[Captain Crash]

Aeowyn wrote...



And she is an infiltrator.

Sooo blue  


How can she be an infiltator with those eyes!  They stand out from over a mile!!    <3

[Chugster]

silverhammer08 wrote...

IT is dead, it was never viable, just a straw that people grasped for.
I didn't buy it and BW is sure as hell not going to follow up on it, in doing so they would admit to having done something wrong, which they will never do. They still think that Dragon Age 2 was a masterpiece, that should tell you something.

dude...just leave, you aint gonna listen to anyone, so just leave and dont bring us all down

[Silver]

Chugster wrote...

silverhammer08 wrote...

IT is dead, it was never viable, just a straw that people grasped for.
I didn't buy it and BW is sure as hell not going to follow up on it, in doing so they would admit to having done something wrong, which they will never do. They still think that Dragon Age 2 was a masterpiece, that should tell you something.

dude...just leave, you aint gonna listen to anyone, so just leave and dont bring us all down

done, adios

[Chugster]

ok i dont like it when people are idiots on forums and make me say nasty things...so here is a great pic of Sara...not sure whats happening here:

[ADLegend21]

Tup3xi wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

I have to say Kallen transferred really nicely into ME3. There's something that makes her even more awesome and kick ass.

That also remind me why I disabled all started/ended game popups in Steam and Origin.

haha I remade her in ME3's CC and gave the face code to Jamie so he could take screes during the demo. I've remade Kallen's face so many times it's like breathing.

[SaturnRing]

Captain Crash wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...



And she is an infiltrator.

Sooo blue  


How can she be an infiltator with those eyes!  They stand out from over a mile!!    <3

I agree. She is so beautiful...and those eyes

Modifié par SaturnRing, 03 avril 2012 - 11:45 .

[mellifera]

man, i really like the n7 fix

[ADLegend21]

Kallen was always going to cure he genophage before the end of her life. When she saw that it made Wrex forget about credits and put a gun to her on Virmire she saw just how deserpate the Krogan were as a race and she wanted to turn that desperation on the Reapers. Werlyoc using Maelon to cure it as also a good indicator to her that she needed to do it, even if they were doing it for the wrong reasons. When the dalatrass told her to sabotage the cure she wanted to reach through the holo projector and strangle her because it was like asking her to kill her younger brother, Adam. I also will have it headcanon'd that instead of the hand shake Kallen will hug Wrex when he does the "you're like a sister to me" speech before a Reaper gets in her way. She'll also hug Legion's empty geth body after his personality gets destroyed to broadcast the upgrades to all geth because as much as she gets mad at Tali for the "cover up a war crime or we aren't friends" thing she pulled in ME2 she could never genocide an entire race, especially when they both ahve incredibe resources needed against the Reapers.

[ELE08]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

 If you don't save Maelon's data, doesn't Eve die?

Exactly. And gosh darn, does it suck. I felt so bad, but Teagan is more of my gut-instinct not-always-optimal decision Shepard. And it feels a bit more organic than the perfect paragon or renegade playthrough. She's not perfect, but she always strives to make the right choices.

Which is why I think it has interesting implications post-game, for the fate of the Krogan and the galaxy.

Leading up to the choice to either betray the Krogan or tell them the truth about the sabotage plan, there are major dialogue hints that curing them will end badly, as everyone expects. Wrex wanting expanded territory, wanting to repopulate and return to the glory days. As Mordin says, Eve will likely be a stabilizing force for the Krogan, a mediator. But with her dead...who knows what will happen. Wrex's good intentions might not be enough.

And that's on Teagan's head. I think it's understandable on a personal level she wants to help Wrex and the Krogan, but on a galaxy wide political level it's troubling. And she's the reason Eve is dead, unintentionally. After the immediate crisis of dealing with the Reapers, she's probably going to have to deal with a lot of fallout from what she choose to do to get there.

Not to bring up *cough*theending* again, but this is part of the reason I don't acknowledge it. All these interesting dilemmas are rendered moot by a galaxy wide reset.

Modifié par ELE08, 03 avril 2012 - 11:42 .

[Gilsa]

Oh, hey, Ele, I like your new avatar!

[ELE08]

Thanks!

[Demonhoopa]

ELE08 wrote...

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

 If you don't save Maelon's data, doesn't Eve die?

Exactly. And gosh darn, does it suck. I felt so bad, but Teagan is more of my gut-instinct not-always-optimal decision Shepard. And it feels a bit more organic than the perfect paragon or renegade playthrough. She's not perfect, but she always strives to make the right choices.

Which is why I think it has interesting implications post-game, for the fate of the Krogan and the galaxy.

Leading up to the choice to either betray the Krogan or tell them the truth about the sabotage plan, there are major dialogue hints that curing them will end badly, as everyone expects. Wrex wanting expanded territory, wanting to repopulate and return to the glory days. As Mordin says, Eve will likely be a stabilizing force for the Krogan, a mediator. But with her dead...who knows what will happen.

And that's on Teagan's head. I think it's understandable on a personal level she wants to help Wrex and the Krogan, but on a galaxy wide political level it's troubling. And she's the reason Eve is dead, unintentionally. After the immediate crisis of dealing with the Reapers, she's probably going to have to deal with a lot of fallout from what she choose to do to get there.

As Mordin says, Eve will likely be a stabilizing force for the Krogan, a mediator. But with her dead...who knows what will happen.  Wrex's good intentions might not be enough.

Not to bring up *cough*theending* again, but this is part of the reason I don't acknowledge it. All these interesting dilemmas are rendered moot by a galaxy wide reset.

Sounds like our canons have some things in common personality wise (although I’d wager Teagan is more emotionally stable. Not hard to do) and went through similar dilemma’s concerning the Krogans.

Although she agonized right up until the moment of truth, Rhynne shot Mordin to stop him from repairing the sabotage. And unfortunately, she had to kill Wrex in self defense when her sins came to light.
While she felt she did what she had to do, you can be sure there was a couple of bouts of sobbing in Liara’s arms behind those two tragic events.

Modifié par Demonhoopa, 03 avril 2012 - 11:45 .

[JamieCOTC]

@ELE - I miss character discussion too. Hope to hear about Teagan soon.

(edit: Cool to hear about her genophage decision and the consequences.  Yeah, avatar is cool too.)

silverhammer08 wrote...

@Chugster
IT is dead, it was never viable, just a straw that people grasped for.
I didn't buy it and BW is sure as hell not going to follow up on it, in doing so they would admit to having done something wrong, which they will never do. They still think that Dragon Age 2 was a masterpiece, that should tell you something.
Also, I would not be so pissed if they had done a good job with the story from the start, or at least had better endings in the game to begin with.

But seeing as i'm obviously too stupid to comprehend the greatness that is streaming from BW, I might as well shut up and get out of here.

I happen to agree w/ this, and I'm not going anywhere. 

That said ...


"Everyone's counting on me to save them. To come up with some last minute plan to -- What if I don't? What if I fail?  What if --  Liara ... I'm scared."

It's not that she doesn't care about the galaxy; it's just that for UJ that's too big a burden to carry. So she’s selfish by necessity. Like any solider, she’s fighting for her home, only her home hasn’t been built yet.


Shepard: Hey Liara. Do you think you could operate as the Shadow Broker from a ranch on Mindoir?
Liara: I suppose I could.
Shepard: Good. Hey, we can even hire Kelly as a live in servant.
Liara: You mean Kelly Chambers, the Yeoman you had “dinner” with? The Yeoman who “fed your fish?” 
Shepard: Maybe we can talk about his later?
Liara: Oh, we will. 

ADLegend21 wrote...

Kallen was always going to cure he
genophage before the end of her life. When she saw that it made Wrex
forget about credits and put a gun to her on Virmire she saw just how
deserpate the Krogan were as a race and she wanted to turn that
desperation on the Reapers. Werlyoc using Maelon to cure it as also a
good indicator to her that she needed to do it, even if they were doing
it for the wrong reasons. When the dalatrass told her to sabotage the
cure she wanted to reach through the holo projector and strangle her
because it was like asking her to kill her younger brother, Adam. I also
will have it headcanon'd that instead of the hand shake Kallen will hug
Wrex when he does the "you're like a sister to me" speech before a
Reaper gets in her way. She'll also hug Legion's empty geth body after
his personality gets destroyed to broadcast the upgrades to all geth
because as much as she gets mad at Tali for the "cover up a war crime or
we aren't friends" thing she pulled in ME2 she could never genocide an
entire race, especially when they both ahve incredibe resources needed
against the Reapers.

While UJ could understand the dalatrass' concerns she was going to roll those dice w/ Wrex and Eve. However, after letting her emotions get the better of her, being called a "bully" kind of stung. 

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 03 avril 2012 - 11:58 .

[ELE08]

Demonhoopa wrote...

Sounds like our canons have some things in common personality wise (although I’d wager Teagan is more emotionally stable. Not hard to do) and went through similar dilemma’s concerning the Krogans.

Frightening thought!

Teagan's emotional instability is more related to her personal relationships than her professional life.  And I'd say she's actually more stable than she thinks she is.

[Demonhoopa]

ELE08 wrote...

Demonhoopa wrote...

Sounds like our canons have some things in common personality wise (although I’d wager Teagan is more emotionally stable. Not hard to do) and went through similar dilemma’s concerning the Krogans.

Frightening thought!

Teagan's emotional instability is more related to her personal relationships than her professional life.  And I'd say she's actually more stable than she thinks she is.

The similarities are eerie.

[Gilsa]

Took EDI with Shepard to see Jacob on the Cerberus base. EDI got excited about seeing if he'd realize it was her, but Shepard told her "not now." So nothing ever happened. Boo.

[Demonhoopa]

Gilsa wrote...

Took EDI with Shepard to see Jacob on the Cerberus base. EDI got excited about seeing if he'd realize it was her, but Shepard told her "not now." So nothing ever happened. Boo.

Yup. Nerfed dialogue trees and auto pilot responses is the gift that keeps on giving.

Can't do much except post a pic for no good reason.

[Syrdeth]

I don't have any approriate screenshots from the scenes, so I hope my words are enough.

I don't claim that Kendra's playthrough is unique, but it probably is very rare. See, she's Renegade through and through, all the way back from ME1. I did it for fun, just to see what the "other side" is like since I usually play good characters. I surprised myself at how much I enjoyed it. Through all three games... well, 99.9% of it and that's all I'll say on that.

She romanced Kaidan back in ME1. And turned him Renegade. Took lots of trial and error and reloading, but I was able to do it with very minimal (if at all) Paragon choices. It seems to have worn off by ME3, though. Then she remained faithful in ME2, which surprised the hell out of me. I fully intended for her to cheat, again just to see what would happen. Especially after Horizon, which, in my head canon for Kendra, royally pissed her off. But, apparantly the Renegade choices are all "I'm not interested, go away" options. And I didn't want to take any Paragon choices with her. Oh well.

So, on to ME3 and Kendra's reunion with Kaidan. And what does he proceed to do first thing? ****** her off again. Don't believe me? Load up a save (assuming you have one with an imported Kaidan LI) before you enter the Mars facility and then pick all Renegade options with him. You can clearly hear her getting more and more pissed. I kinda liked it, actually. Made it more real to me. The whole time I kept saying "Kaidan, just shut up. You're pissing her off." As dumb as I am, even I know not to ****** off the woman in my life. But, the knucklehead just kept going.

Then at the hospital scene where he asks if they can get past Horizon, that gave me pause. I didn't actually know what to do. Not if I forgave him, could she forgive him? Ultimately it didn't matter because either choice responds with "we're good", but picking "For now", I got to hear Kendra say "we can butt heads". How true that was!

As far as letting him back on the ship, that was a no-brainer. She didn't need him there, she wanted him there. Purely selfish reasons. And then the "butt shot" as she follows him onto the Normandy. I was just shaking my head as that was just perfect for her character.

Wow, huge wall of text, sorry guys. So... um... have this pic. It's from one of my youtube vids with Transcribe Audio turned on.



What she actually said was, "Your support gives me strength."

I didn't even get to get into Sur'Kesh and what she did with the genephage cure. Maybe a different post. My experience there was probably rare as well.

[raziel1980]

 Well...Alicia's playthrough is complete...I'm stopping with the conclusion of 'Priority: Cronos Base'....  MASSIVE PIC BOMB COMING...

Anyways...Thessia...BOY...after the High of Rannok...this is a real low...









Sanctuary.... sometimes thing just happen... 






Alicia Final Armor Setup( changed the color afterwords)


Cronos Base...






Taking out Kai Leng...for Thane( and Aislinn Trista, JECW, and any other Thane fans who visit here) 






I'll Stop Them...