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[SaturnRing]

raziel1980 wrote...

@files... As much as I like Devi...which is alot btw...with all the different screens and facial expressions you have gotten of her. I absolutely LOVE Nemean..her demanor and personality that you have laid out for her make seem like an awesome character to me...and I will say that she sorta scres me...which is something I don't say very often about video game characters, th eonly other femshep to do that was an older ME 2 version of Allison I made and thought about using in continuing her down the renegade path. Nemean sorta gives off that same effect to me...she also seem to be abit of a 'tragic hero' to me from your description...

Here is the alternate...'Renegade' version of Allison in ME 2...

I second that.

Modifié par SaturnRing, 04 avril 2012 - 03:08 .

[KyreneZA]

Ottemis wrote...

Sometimes there is a definite lack of chill-pills going round.
Feelings are raging in regards to the endings, we all sometimes word things in the height of them in ways we wished we didn't.

Yeah, sorry, that's my fault. I've been avoiding this thread due to the incessant picspamming, tl;dr discussions and negativity about the endings. And also due to my own lethargy/apathy towards anything ME3 related (even the good stuff) due to the endings.

Nevertheless, even if swooping is bad...

*swoops in and delivers 402 Chillax pills and his only ME3 femShep pic to date*

Kassia still looks (IMO) gorgeous in ME3, despite evertything else...

[SaturnRing]

Kyrene wrote...


*swoops in and delivers 402 Chillax pills and his only ME3 femShep pic to date*

Kassia still looks (IMO) gorgeous in ME3, despite evertything else...

Good to see Kassia; Really hoping to hear from her again soon.

[SkaldFish]

Shingai wrote...
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Had lots of fun playing a feisty redhead.
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Default FemShep does look really good, I have to say. Except... is it just me or does she always looks like she's puckering up for a kiss?

(not that there's anything wrong with that...)

[TheMarshal]

Ottemis wrote...

Chugster wrote...

you also have to kill/not recruit Wrex...basically if Wreav is in charge and Eve dies then Shep can persuade Mordin that its better to leave the krogan as they are....he fakes his death and goes to work on the Crucible

Oh screw that then, never going to happen in my playthroughs.
Wrex is too plain cool, I actually think the genophage has lost it's purpose IF you saved Wrex, Mordin's death is meaningful and worthy of him and Eve is freaking amazing. No no, not an option for me.

Exactly.  Mordin's sacrifice is one of the more poignant moments in the series, particularly if you've been hounding him for his decisions regarding the genophage.  I picked "I need the salarians" the other night after telling him about the sabotage and it really all came together in an amazing way.

Mordin: "I MADE A MISTAKE!"

And saying he was focusing too much on the "big picture", forgetting that it is made up of many smaller pictures.  That really hit home for me.

[SkaldFish]

Ottemis wrote...
Sometimes there is a definite lack of chill-pills going round.
Feelings are raging in regards to the endings, we all sometimes word things in the height of them in ways we wished we didn't.

Wise words, the truth of which I've learned the hard way. I'm still looking for an effective brand of chill pill, though.
No, the liquid versions like Maker's Mark didn't work....

Well, let me just clarify that: They worked, but then I didn't.

[SkaldFish]

TheMarshal wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

Chugster wrote...

you also have to kill/not recruit Wrex...basically if Wreav is in charge and Eve dies then Shep can persuade Mordin that its better to leave the krogan as they are....he fakes his death and goes to work on the Crucible

Oh screw that then, never going to happen in my playthroughs.
Wrex is too plain cool, I actually think the genophage has lost it's purpose IF you saved Wrex, Mordin's death is meaningful and worthy of him and Eve is freaking amazing. No no, not an option for me.

Exactly.  Mordin's sacrifice is one of the more poignant moments in the series, particularly if you've been hounding him for his decisions regarding the genophage.  I picked "I need the salarians" the other night after telling him about the sabotage and it really all came together in an amazing way.

Mordin: "I MADE A MISTAKE!"

And saying he was focusing too much on the "big picture", forgetting that it is made up of many smaller pictures.  That really hit home for me.

IMO, Tuchanka was quite possibly the best mission since Virmire and Ilos. Really, really excellent. I was shocked to see that deleting Maelon's data back in ME2 had such a terrible unforeseen consequence, though. (My Enid had not deleted it; Rhea had....) It felt completely realistic, so my shock wasn't a reaction to a problem with the story line -- just the realization that Rhea's decision had seemed so much like the right thing for her character to do at the time. The result of that "right thing" was so tragic I had to stop playing for a while and go walk the dog to re-engage with the real world. I really felt the pain of having made a decision that changed the future of a species.

I can't compliment the writer enough for how well all those possible outcomes were brought together. Great storytelling, great level execution, appropriate gameplay, great cutscenes.

[Ottemis]

Kyrene wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

Sometimes there is a definite lack of chill-pills going round.
Feelings are raging in regards to the endings, we all sometimes word things in the height of them in ways we wished we didn't.

Yeah, sorry, that's my fault. I've been avoiding this thread due to the incessant picspamming, tl;dr discussions and negativity about the endings. And also due to my own lethargy/apathy towards anything ME3 related (even the good stuff) due to the endings.

Nevertheless, even if swooping is bad...

*swoops in and delivers 402 Chillax pills and his only ME3 femShep pic to date*

Kassia still looks (IMO) gorgeous in ME3, despite evertything else...

I've missed you! Come baaack =o And in this case swooping is good =P

Modifié par Ottemis, 04 avril 2012 - 04:15 .

[Lloedean]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

 I find myself at times having difficulty getting a grasp on Nemain's character. I created her on a whim a couple of years back after exhausting my playthroughs with Devi. I had yet to find a way to make her stand out from Devi's paragon ways and Indra's bull headed methods (I haven't started Indra's run yet). Since then Nemain has become more distinct and stands for a little more than just playful tinkering with the character creator.

  What's funny is that her personality reflects this vacillation. She looks youthful and easy going, and yet she is Earthborn and has the Ruthless profile. Even characters in the game have a hard time coming to terms with who she really is. The military career route was never a perfect mold for Nemain and yet there she is, surviving and finding herself an accidental hero with an accidental reputation. Was she really so heartless on Torfan? Or was Torfan simply a way for Nemain to cope, using chess board strategem to carry out difficult decisions? I have a feeling that upon reaching the end of ME3, Nemain will truly understand what it means to sacrifice one's life for the benefit of everyone. Pardon my thinking "out loud". I've never been very good at writing up backstories or fan fiction and I tend to develop character traits as I play the game rather than before. I wonder if others feel the same way about some of their characters.

I think I feel quite the same way about Margaret Emma. Sometimes, I have the feeling that I am more her psychanalyst or something like that than the person who plays her and chooses what she do or think, it's like I'm studying her and interpret her actions in a certain way and then, she corrige me "No no no, you gets it all wrong".
Actually, my first idea when I started thinking about her was to jokingly call her "Mary-Sue" as she was all friendly and paragon but it didn't last because she quickly develops an unexpected trait: selfishness, which gave quite a new light to what she was doing and not a glorious one. And as she evolves in the video games progression, she becames more and more different from the initial idea I had of her and for goods reasons I say since she stands firmly in situations where I pictured her to break, imposing her opinions to me "If she do or say thoses things, it don't mean that she actually think it.".
It's funny, in ME1, she was the perfect candidate for the "paragon-heroic-sacrifice"; In ME2, she was sure that TIM had a way to kill her through her cybernetics and expected it; In ME3, when everything is about how close death is, it is where she was the most determined to live which made me ask her severals times in the game "Margie, why do you break my heart?!".

[SkaldFish]

On Tuchanka...

This is MY FAULT...

[Demonhoopa]

SaturnRing wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Took EDI with Shepard to see Jacob on the Cerberus base. EDI got excited about seeing if he'd realize it was her, but Shepard told her "not now." So nothing ever happened. Boo.

That is so weird: i'm about to start that mission - just finished the monastery - and was thinking that i should take EDI with me just to see Jacob's reaction when he sees her... 

While they did a MUCH better job in this area in ME3, we were denied on this mission. Although it still wasn't a fail since it was addressed by that unsatisfying exchange between Edie and Shepard.

It used to drive me nuts in ME2 when Shepard would walk into Liara's office on Illium with either Garrus or Tali and there was NO acknowledgement. I get the feeling there were a lot of complaints in that area because they really seemed to go out of their way to flesh out those encounters. There's even really nice exchanges with Major Kirrahe if you have Liara or Garrus in the party.

Old friends always seem to say "nice to see you" when reunited. I was very pleased with this.

[raziel1980]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

raziel1980 wrote...


@files... As much as I like Devi...which is alot btw...with all the different screens and facial expressions you have gotten of her. I absolutely LOVE Nemean..her demanor and personality that you have laid out for her make seem like an awesome character to me...and I will say that she sorta scres me...which is something I don't say very often about video game characters, th eonly other femshep to do that was an older ME 2 version of Allison I made and thought about using in continuing her down the renegade path. Nemean sorta gives off that same effect to me...she also seem to be abit of a 'tragic hero' to me from your description...

Here is the alternate...'Renegade' version of Allison in ME 2...

**intimidating pic snips**

  Thank you Raziel.  With Devi,  I have trouble expressing her character and trying to convey what she means to me probably because I have used her from the very beginning, 4 years back. It almost seems unnecessary to explain Devi due to the fact that what I make her do and what I imagine goes through her mind is instictive and my lack of writing talent does her a disservice.
 
 And of course, there is always one's personal preference to take into account. Devi is that type of character that I look up to; sometimes even idealize a bit too much. With my secondary characters, I guess I'm more deliberate in showing their quirks, especially with the screenshots. If you think Nemain is intimidating, wait until Indra comes along.

 All Hail Queen B_tch

WOW...Indra is intimidating...is she a vanguard perhaps? It seems vanguards tend to draw the most renegades around here. I think is aw you play on 360? If you were playing the game on the pc...you could use the free code from alienware 'indra sniper rifle" with her...


       The writing thing, I can empathize with as well...as I'm not very good at writing or maybe even discussing my character's feelings on these things. Though I do feel i did a good job with Allison atleast in telling her story of ME( through all the pic bombs I've doen for her). Alicia's story is the one that I REALLY REALLY wish i could tell as her story and her ending or would be ending since she( nor any other of my characters) will not do 'Priority: Earth'. I'm gonna make a more concerted effort to tell Gianna's tale as she was ny first ME 2 on the pc character and she was origninally made to be a throw away..unlock bonus powers, get a feel for the pc version of the game type. But I found I that almost fell for her as hard as I had Alicia or Allison(though Allison hadn't been created or started her ME 1 and thus trilogy to becoming my ultimate canon n favorite Shepard run yet) so i had to continue her tale if only because I found she meant so much to me and she too as a sentinel deserved her moment(s) to shine for you all around here. 

[Demonhoopa]

Gilsa wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Took EDI with Shepard to see Jacob on the Cerberus base. EDI got excited about seeing if he'd realize it was her, but Shepard told her "not now." So nothing ever happened. Boo.

That is so weird: i'm about to start that mission - just finished the monastery - and was thinking that i should take EDI with me just to see Jacob's reaction when he sees her... 

I can't even remember if Jacob said anything to Garrus. (I don't have screenshots from my first playthrough so can't double check.) I wonder if it's possible to hold off on this mission long enough to get Tali and come back to it.

edit: @shingai -- Depending on who you ask, Shepard's between 32 to 35, I think.

If you're referring to age, Shepard was 29 in ME1. Probably 32 at the beginning of ME3.

[raziel1980]

Demonhoopa wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Took EDI with Shepard to see Jacob on the Cerberus base. EDI got excited about seeing if he'd realize it was her, but Shepard told her "not now." So nothing ever happened. Boo.

That is so weird: i'm about to start that mission - just finished the monastery - and was thinking that i should take EDI with me just to see Jacob's reaction when he sees her... 

I can't even remember if Jacob said anything to Garrus. (I don't have screenshots from my first playthrough so can't double check.) I wonder if it's possible to hold off on this mission long enough to get Tali and come back to it.

edit: @shingai -- Depending on who you ask, Shepard's between 32 to 35, I think.

If you're referring to age, Shepard was 29 in ME1. Probably 32 at the beginning of ME3.

WOW...that would Shepard the same age as me...in couple of months. 

[Demonhoopa]

Chugster wrote...

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

 If you don't save Maelon's data, doesn't Eve die?

yes, but you do get to keep Mordin alive....so it balances

Really? Mordin always seems to perish in my game no matter what. My Shepards are all just death machines it seems.

[SaturnRing]

raziel1980 wrote...

Demonhoopa wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Took EDI with Shepard to see Jacob on the Cerberus base. EDI got excited about seeing if he'd realize it was her, but Shepard told her "not now." So nothing ever happened. Boo.

That is so weird: i'm about to start that mission - just finished the monastery - and was thinking that i should take EDI with me just to see Jacob's reaction when he sees her... 

I can't even remember if Jacob said anything to Garrus. (I don't have screenshots from my first playthrough so can't double check.) I wonder if it's possible to hold off on this mission long enough to get Tali and come back to it.

edit: @shingai -- Depending on who you ask, Shepard's between 32 to 35, I think.

If you're referring to age, Shepard was 29 in ME1. Probably 32 at the beginning of ME3.

WOW...that would Shepard the same age as me...in couple of months. 

[Demonhoopa]

Ottemis wrote...

Chugster wrote...

you also have to kill/not recruit Wrex...basically if Wreav is in charge and Eve dies then Shep can persuade Mordin that its better to leave the krogan as they are....he fakes his death and goes to work on the Crucible

Oh screw that then, never going to happen in my playthroughs.
Wrex is too plain cool, I actually think the genophage has lost it's purpose IF you saved Wrex, Mordin's death is meaningful and worthy of him and Eve is freaking amazing. No no, not an option for me.

I agree and dig Wrex too. Not an option for "me" but I have 11 femsheps and it will most likely be an option for one of them.

I think wrex died my very first playthrough because Ashley shot him on Virmire. Also I think Tess the badass executed him so I'll have two Wreave playthroughs out of 11. My first, Hope, would be anti Genophage so Mordin is doomed but Tess would definitely be capable of leaving the Krogans how they are.

Yeah, I might be able to save Mordin ONE TIME out of 11.

Oh.......assuming he survived the Collector mission in ME2.

Dammit.

Modifié par Demonhoopa, 04 avril 2012 - 05:25 .

[Charlottefailsatlife]

Countess Cutlass wrote...

@ raziel1980: I love the coloring you have for Alicia and Allison.  I am partial to Alicia's redness, though!  Awesome. 

@ Aeowyn: I love your Shep's look!  Those blue eyes.  *melts*

And finally, I can join in the posting of Shepard pics, as well!  Instead of just always lurking awkwardly.  

This is my canon gal, Diana.  Paragade.  Garrusmancer.  Destroyer of Reapers (*sob*).  Brave, little toaster.  I made her back in 2008, originally.  Her face isn't perfect, but I've come to like it.  Her design inspiration was Veronica, from the Archie comics, lol.  Not even kidding. ;D  

Any chance of a link to that texture mod?

[ADLegend21]

Jacob still doesn't say anything about EDI he's too busy worrying about that bitc-I mean Brynne.

Modifié par ADLegend21, 04 avril 2012 - 05:26 .

[Gilsa]

Demonhoopa wrote...

While they did a MUCH better job in this area in ME3, we were denied on this mission. Although it still wasn't a fail since it was addressed by that unsatisfying exchange between Edie and Shepard.

It used to drive me nuts in ME2 when Shepard would walk into Liara's office on Illium with either Garrus or Tali and there was NO acknowledgement. I get the feeling there were a lot of complaints in that area because they really seemed to go out of their way to flesh out those encounters. There's even really nice exchanges with Major Kirrahe if you have Liara or Garrus in the party.

Old friends always seem to say "nice to see you" when reunited. I was very pleased with this.

Yeah, I was just thinking "at least they acknowledged it" -- was a bit spoiled by Jack telling Garrus he was still ugly as ever. I agree about the lack of acknowledgement back in ME2. I had forgotten about that. What's funny is that if I pick Kaidan to come along and help Tali with disabling the dreadnaught, they have a biotic conversation that totally goes over my head (quibbling about some hardware they're using). It was nice to see they had a connection that my own Shepard didn't share with them.

Another thing is that (forgive me, Garrusmancers!) I like that they followed through with Garrus and Tali being attracted to each other in the end of ME3. They planted the seeds for this back in ME2 with that random turian and quarian in the bar talking about being wooed by others. 

The genophange data had me thinking about consequences, intended or not, so I started wondering about the other loyalty missions I did and if there were other outcomes. Since I did not take the paragon interrupts, Aresh (Jack's mission) never ended up saving kids from reaper attacks and Maelon (Mordin's mission) was not alive to send Shepard an email about the genophange being cured. I let Garrus kill Sidonis and the wiki doesn't seem to indicate hearing anything from Sidonis in ME3 if he lived. Interesting stuff.

Edit:

Demonhoopa wrote...

Really? Mordin always seems to perish in my game no matter what. My Shepards are all just death machines it seems. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png

One trick I've seen people say is to have Mordin escort the crew back to the ship to make sure he lives. I guess I got lucky because he was in my final two for the reaper fight on my first playthrough. I've sent him as an escort back every other time just to be sure (plus it made sense to send a doctor back with the traumatized survivors). =p

Modifié par Gilsa, 04 avril 2012 - 05:36 .

[Chugster]

am i just being a perv or do others want an outfit for FemShep with an EDI-like ******?

[2leggywillow]

Chugster wrote...

am i just being a perv or do others want an outfit for FemShep with an EDI-like ******?

Ick, I would start flipping tables if I saw that, lol.

[Demonhoopa]

TheMarshal wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

Chugster wrote...

you also have to kill/not recruit Wrex...basically if Wreav is in charge and Eve dies then Shep can persuade Mordin that its better to leave the krogan as they are....he fakes his death and goes to work on the Crucible

Oh screw that then, never going to happen in my playthroughs.
Wrex is too plain cool, I actually think the genophage has lost it's purpose IF you saved Wrex, Mordin's death is meaningful and worthy of him and Eve is freaking amazing. No no, not an option for me.

Exactly.  Mordin's sacrifice is one of the more poignant moments in the series, particularly if you've been hounding him for his decisions regarding the genophage.  I picked "I need the salarians" the other night after telling him about the sabotage and it really all came together in an amazing way.

Mordin: "I MADE A MISTAKE!"

And saying he was focusing too much on the "big picture", forgetting that it is made up of many smaller pictures.  That really hit home for me.

This. Couldn't have said it better myself. This may have been the most dramatic part of my current playthrough with badass renegade Sam (other than shooting Ashley on the Citadel). When she drew her gun on Mordin but couldn't bring herself to pull the trigger, and the little nod of acknoledgement from Mordin as the elevator started up, I was just floored.

So good. So yeah, everything you said.