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[Silver]

@Chugster
Don't go there... you might not like Jacob, but there's a lot of people here who do.

@Ottemis
Your wish is my command

Talia & Tali on Rannoch

Modifié par silverhammer08, 06 avril 2012 - 10:03 .

[Ottemis]

silverhammer08 wrote...

@Chugster
Don't go there... you might not like Jacob, but there's a lot of people here who do.

QFT.
Giev top silvurr =o

Modifié par Ottemis, 06 avril 2012 - 10:02 .

[ADLegend21]

Chugster wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

silverhammer08 wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

silverhammer08 wrote...

My guess would be that she romanced someone from ME2...

ME 3 has made dating in ME 2 hazardous...

QFT

Personally this doesn't affect me, but I know a few people who are, and I understand that they are beyond angry about the way it turned out.
I should clarify a bit more though: It affects me too in a way, because i've grown to like the Characters from ME2 and it hurts to see how they are treated in ME3 (Thane of course being the most glaring example of writing gone wrong).

I think you're forgetting about a certain Jacob Taylor....Thane was forgotten yes, but Jacob was blantantly destroyed by the ME writing team.

how can you destroy something that has as much charisma and personality as a plank of wood?

I don't know, you tell me:

[Countess Cutlass]

merylisk wrote...

*dies from the pretty*  She is amazing.

Regarding ME 2 romances, I agree they were all pretty heartbreaking.  Thane was my forever romance interest in ME 2, and the way his romance in ME 3 was handled left such a bitter aftertaste in my mouth.  I actually did a trilogy run where I went back and had my Shep romance Garrus so I wouldn't have to endure...what happened. D:  My husband was crushed with the way his romance with Miranda ended...considering she died on him.  Don't even get me started on the Jacob romance, so sad and ridiculous the way the writers threw that romance away.  

IDK.  It's understandable that people get emotional about it -- these are characters that people really come to care about.  It really sucks to care about a character, like them and enjoy their journey with your Shep...and then you realize that the writers completely overlooked your Shep's romance with them...  Bitter pill.

ETA: Ugh, that was tl;dr, wasn't it.  Apologies!

Modifié par Countess Cutlass, 06 avril 2012 - 10:40 .

[TheMarshal]

It's effectively the way the ME1 romances were treated in (vanilla) ME2, only there's no ME4 to look forward to. Kinda makes you wonder where the continuation of romances ranked in terms of importance to the devs.

[Gilsa]

@Countess Cutlass -- Did he break up with Miranda or not mention Kai Leng in time?

The ME2 romance I looked forward to the most was Jacob's so I was fortunate to find out via word of mouth rather than experience the nasty shock myself. Since I knew it wasn't the same writer in ME3 (the ME2 writer wrote Aveline's romance with Donnic, ffs, which is probably my faaaaavortie romance in all of Biowaredom), it was easier for me to dismiss this version of Jacob. If it had been the same writer, I would have reloaded ME2, kicked Jacob to the curb and imported into ME3 single.

Edit: Speaking of Jacob, I did get a message from him on my phone saying that it was going to be a girl and that Brynne was thinking of naming her Hackett instead.

Modifié par Gilsa, 06 avril 2012 - 10:59 .

[Chugster]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Chugster wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

silverhammer08 wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

silverhammer08 wrote...

My guess would be that she romanced someone from ME2...

ME 3 has made dating in ME 2 hazardous...

QFT

Personally this doesn't affect me, but I know a few people who are, and I understand that they are beyond angry about the way it turned out.
I should clarify a bit more though: It affects me too in a way, because i've grown to like the Characters from ME2 and it hurts to see how they are treated in ME3 (Thane of course being the most glaring example of writing gone wrong).

I think you're forgetting about a certain Jacob Taylor....Thane was forgotten yes, but Jacob was blantantly destroyed by the ME writing team.

how can you destroy something that has as much charisma and personality as a plank of wood?

I don't know, you tell me:

you can edit him as much as you want...IMO...Jacob is a waste of space, dull, boring and predictable...not gone anywhere near him with any FemShep

@Silverhammer, its my opinion so take it or leave it and dont say i cant voice my opinion....its not like im saying it on the Jacob Fan thread

Modifié par Chugster, 06 avril 2012 - 11:06 .

[Silver]

Forget it, i'm not getting into a pi**ing contest with you again.

[ADLegend21]

Right but you don't see anyone else bashing love interests of anyone's femshep's in this thread. No one's talking down about Garrus, Kaidan, Liara, Traynor or Thane, but you've taken it upon yourself to look down your nose at how other people choose to role play their Shepards and hwo they are upset about how a path they chose was treated. That's highly disrespectful and shows a lack of manners on your part.

[Countess Cutlass]

Gilsa wrote...

@Countess Cutlass -- Did he break up with Miranda or not mention Kai Leng in time?

Edit: Speaking of Jacob, I did get a message from him on my phone saying that it was going to be a girl and that Brynne was thinking of naming her Hackett instead. 

Is there a time limit to mentioning Kai Leng?  I'm not totally sure if he mentioned Kai Leng at all, which is probably what went wrong there!

Is that from the iPhone app?  Even if you romanced him?  Goodness, just pour salt all over the Jacobmaners's wounds, Bioware.  Ugh.  

Modifié par Countess Cutlass, 06 avril 2012 - 11:20 .

[Ottemis]

Femshep fanthread being about femshep, yes. So no, not the Jacob fanthread, but also no, not necessarily the thread to ****** on characters other actually like.. Especially seeing Femshep can romance Jacob (and quite a few here in the thread have).

The question is not whether or not you're allowed to voice an opinion when it's a negative one, the question is how important do you think your opinion of Jacob is when it makes others feel potentially sh*t, and you don't care for him either way. And when you decide to do it, how you do it.

Modifié par Ottemis, 06 avril 2012 - 11:22 .

[Chugster]

Ottemis wrote...

Femshep fanthread being about femshep, yes. So no, not the Jacob fanthread, but also no, not necessarily the thread to ****** on characters other actually like.. Especially seeing Femshep can romance Jacob (and quite a few here in the thread have).

The question is not whether or not you're allowed to voice an opinion when it's a negative one, the question is how important do you think your opinion of Jacob is when it makes others feel potentially sh*t, and you don't care for him either way. And when you decide to do it, how you do it.

hey, this whole damn forum is full of opinions, both positive and negative, even this thread has negative posts...

and where the **** did i say people who like jacob are stupid...all i said is that Jacob is stupid...

any of you saying i cant voice an opinion, even if it is negative can go **** yourselves.....take a long look in the ****ing mirror before you cast the first stone

there are a few of you who like to fling crap around, and you are always the first to have a go at someone else....and im not gonna take that from those of you who do this

/endrant

Modifié par Chugster, 06 avril 2012 - 11:33 .

[SaturnRing]

Chugster wrote...


you can edit him as much as you want...IMO...Jacob is a waste of space, dull, boring and predictable...not gone anywhere near him with any FemShep

To me the point is about Jacob getting a fair treatment weather some of us like him or not. Let people who actually want him arround,  be able to get some quality playtime with him. 

Modifié par SaturnRing, 06 avril 2012 - 11:42 .

[ADLegend21]

TheMarshal wrote...

It's effectively the way the ME1 romances were treated in (vanilla) ME2, only there's no ME4 to look forward to. Kinda makes you wonder where the continuation of romances ranked in terms of importance to the devs.

 from what I've seen in my 4 PT's its:
1.) Liara/Fshep
2.) Liara/MShep(apparently Liara doesn't say I love youto him, only femshep)
3.)Kaidan (both genders)
4.) Tali
5.) Garrus
6.)Traynor
7.) Ashley
8.) Cortez
9.) Miranda
10.) Jack
11.) Thane
12.) Samara(she has a special line on the Citadel if you tried to romance her)
13.) Jacob.

[Chugster]

SaturnRing wrote...

Chugster wrote...


you can edit him as much as you want...IMO...Jacob is a waste of space, dull, boring and predictable...not gone anywhere near him with any FemShep

To me the point is about Jacob getting a fair treatment weather some of us like him or not. Let people who actually want him arround,  be able to get some quality playtime with him. 

well all the ME2 only squadmates got the shaft, in terms of gameplay and romance, they should have let us bring one of them back as a proper squaddie and/or  LI

would have been nice for my manshep to have Miri as a squaddie and LI

Modifié par Chugster, 06 avril 2012 - 11:47 .

[SaturnRing]

Chugster wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

Chugster wrote...


you can edit him as much as you want...IMO...Jacob is a waste of space, dull, boring and predictable...not gone anywhere near him with any FemShep

To me the point is about Jacob getting a fair treatment weather some of us like him or not. Let people who actually want him arround,  be able to get some quality playtime with him. 

well all the ME2 only squadmates got the shaft, in terms of gameplay and romance, they should have let us bring one of them back as a squaddie and/or proper LI

Your focus should be on them. Let Jacob  - poor dude - slide. 

[TheMarshal]

ADLegend21 wrote...

 from what I've seen in my 4 PT's its:
1.) Liara/Fshep
2.) Liara/MShep(apparently Liara doesn't say I love youto him, only femshep)
3.) Kaidan (both genders)
4.) Tali
5.) Garrus
6.)Traynor
7.) Ashley
8.) Cortez
9.) Miranda
10.) Jack
11.) Thane
12.) Samara(she has a special line on the Citadel if you tried to romance her)
13.) Jacob.

I'd swap Miranda/Jack, since Jack doesn't die if you break up with her.  But other than that, I'm inclined to agree.  Didn't know about the differences in Liara's romance with MShep v. FemShep.

[Ottemis]

I'm not even gonna, yeah..

[TheMarshal]

I'm not saying that's how I'd rank the romances in order of importance. If it were up to me, each character would have a fulfilling romance and an equally well-written friendship path. It just seems to me that Bioware prioritized some characters over others.

[ADLegend21]

TheMarshal wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

 from what I've seen in my 4 PT's its:
1.) Liara/Fshep
2.) Liara/MShep(apparently Liara doesn't say I love youto him, only femshep)
3.) Kaidan (both genders)
4.) Tali
5.) Garrus
6.)Traynor
7.) Ashley
8.) Cortez
9.) Miranda
10.) Jack
11.) Thane
12.) Samara(she has a special line on the Citadel if you tried to romance her)
13.) Jacob.

I'd swap Miranda/Jack, since Jack doesn't die if you break up with her.  But other than that, I'm inclined to agree.  Didn't know about the differences in Liara's romance with MShep v. FemShep.

Well that part I read in he Liara thread.

@Chugster: YOU cast the first stone. YOU quoted my post saying they ruined Jacob and insulted him. so take your own advice please.

[SaturnRing]

TheMarshal wrote...

I'm not saying that's how I'd rank the romances in order of importance. If it were up to me, each character would have a fulfilling romance and an equally well-written friendship path. It just seems to me that Bioware prioritized some characters over others.

I second that. There would be less incident like what just happened if it was the case. I personally don't care a bit if poeple don't like my LIs - I couldn't  care less...  

[TheMarshal]

SaturnRing wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

I'm not saying that's how I'd rank the romances in order of importance. If it were up to me, each character would have a fulfilling romance and an equally well-written friendship path. It just seems to me that Bioware prioritized some characters over others.

I second that. There would be less incident like what just happened if it was the case. I personally don't care a bit if poeple don't like my LIs - I couldn't  care less...  

I do understand the conundrum the devs are in, though.  How do you create 12 (or 13, depending on how you look at it) emotionally satisfying romances that aren't mirror images of each other in significant ways?  I think worse than having Jacob flat out leave you or Thane having a blah romance rekindling isn't anywhere near as bad as having the exact same romance for each character would be.

[Lianna sFfalenn]

Countess Cutlass wrote...

*snip*  

IDK.  It's understandable that people get emotional about it -- these are characters that people really come to care about.  It really sucks to care about a character, like them and enjoy their journey with your Shep...and then you realize that the writers completely overlooked your Shep's romance with them...  Bitter pill.

ETA: Ugh, that was tl;dr, wasn't it.  Apologies!

tl;dr? No, not really. Some people come to the thread for the pictures, some for banter, and some for in-depth discussions with like-minded players about how events (or lack thereof)  in the games affect them and their femSheps. So if you've got a relevant wall of text, don't apologise for it - those who like discussion will read and respond!

I agree that Bioware didn't do right by the ME2 romances - especially considering that they practically pushed you at them in ME2 ("Hey, look! Shiny new LIs, and if you import...2 out of 3 ME1 romances get near-identically derpy dialogue so you have a ready-made excuse to dump them!"), it's unfair not to follow up. They also seem a bit fixated on this idea that a potential romance must be on the Normandy so "that scene" can happen right before the Final Mission™ - considering all the other clever stuff they do, I don't see why it isn't possible to have the same conversation/romance/eventual sexytimes with someone who isn't part of the crew.

On another note...new DLC content pictures. I recruited Kaidan before doing the mission this time and I liked the extra dialogue snippets on the shuttle run - "Not many people have been with me since the very beginning." They even mentioned Jenkins by name, bless him.

Modifié par Lianna sFfalenn, 07 avril 2012 - 12:31 .

[SaturnRing]

TheMarshal wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

I'm not saying that's how I'd rank the romances in order of importance. If it were up to me, each character would have a fulfilling romance and an equally well-written friendship path. It just seems to me that Bioware prioritized some characters over others.

I second that. There would be less incident like what just happened if it was the case. I personally don't care a bit if poeple don't like my LIs - I couldn't  care less...  

I do understand the conundrum the devs are in, though.  How do you create 12 (or 13, depending on how you look at it) emotionally satisfying romances that aren't mirror images of each other in significant ways?  I think worse than having Jacob flat out leave you or Thane having a blah romance rekindling isn't anywhere near as bad as having the exact same romance for each character would be.

That must be tough for them...We could always go back and analyze what they could have done differently (less teammates) but it won't help - seeing how i myself is invested in all available characters. I just wish playing the game a certain way wasn't tacitly encouraged (LI as much as certain choices) to get the most satisfying closures.

Even my canon - former default - got thrown to the wolves. After faithfully representing femshep - difficult task btw - all these years, she wasn't pretty enough to continue...

Modifié par SaturnRing, 07 avril 2012 - 01:00 .