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 Warning: Long post incomming.

 I posted this last night over at  the Femshep website, femshep.ning.com/profiles/blogs/devi-shepard and figured I might as well post it here.

 I've put off a more complete write up of my main character, Devi, for too long now. I even gave her an actual name (Dionne), although I still resort to using her nickname most of the time. To those interested, if any, I suggest you first read through the 3 page interview in the links below. The idea behind them was simple: Have a junior publication aimed at teenagers feature an interview with ayounger Shepard. This interview was not completed due to an unforeseen event and following a special request by Alliance Intelligence 
personnel, the interview was pulled from publication.

-snip-


Great work Flies...really enjoyed reading it=] Are you gonna do something like this for your other characters too?


Thank you, Krayzi. <3

 Yes. I'm thinking of different ways to write them up. I'm not a writer so this was hard for me to do, even if it's technically not fanfiction.

 It feels real good finally getting her down on "paper" instead of being locked in my head. I'll still be posting some more of Devi but it was one way to send her off now that the final game is out (and of course, let's see what comes this summer).


Edit: Top Shep

Devi looking sharp with her visor.
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Awesome stuff there, Flies. Love all the little details you've come up with. I also have a soft spot for Earthborn Sole Survivors, Madelene's one too. She even has the same scars Devi has in ME1 (or, at least I'm assuming she does based on the picture you posted up there).

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Tup3xi wrote...

nranola wrote...

^

*grabbyhands?* :D

What settings did you use on yours?

Me? Put these under [SystemSettings] in GamerSettings.ini:

MaxShadowResolution=1024
MaxWholeSceneDominantShadowResolution=4096 <- not 100% sure what this controls
ShadowTexelsPerPixel=4.000000 <- just in case
ShadowFilterQualityBias=4
ShadowFilterRadius=4

MaxShadowResolution is performance killer and bigger is better in it. if you aren't forcing ridiculous amounts of MSAA or SSAA 2048 should be fine too. Maximum is probably 4096. It doesn't benefit that much when you go over 1024 (and shadow filtering quality wise it may not be a good thing since sharper isn't necessarily better in this case).

These do not get rid of the problem but improves the situation a bit.


Are there similar custom settings for the previous two games?

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yukidama wrote...

Awesome stuff there, Flies. Love all the little details you've come up with. I also have a soft spot for Earthborn Sole Survivors, Madelene's one too. She even has the same scars Devi has in ME1 (or, at least I'm assuming she does based on the picture you posted up there).


 Oh I miss those scars, and they did originate from the Akuze mission. I had no idea that the Earthborn/Sole Survivor background was considered default but it was so appealing when I chose it 4 years back. I'm glad you read and enjoyed the write up. B) I don't feel so dorky now.



Edit: Writing her backstory has made me want to replay ME1 and ME2 for the umpteenth time, now more than ever.

Modifié par Flies_by_Handles, 09 avril 2012 - 12:31 .


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So... Why can't FemShep atract human males? Is it her cold tone of voice or something?

There is just 2 options: Jacob and Kaidan. Basicaly Jacob cheats on her and Kaidan... might secretly like men! And then there is bunch of alien options.

Whats up with that?

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Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Thank you, Krayzi. <3

Yes. I'm thinking of different ways to write them up. I'm not a writer so this was hard for me to do, even if it's technically not fanfiction.

It feels real good finally getting her down on "paper" instead of being locked in my head. I'll still be posting some more of Devi but it was one way to send her off now that the final game is out (and of course, let's see what comes this summer).


Then I'm looking forward to reading the stories of Nemain and Indra:O  
Oh and you better continue to post pics of Devi:wub:

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krayzi wrote...

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Thank you, Krayzi. <3

Yes. I'm thinking of different ways to write them up. I'm not a writer so this was hard for me to do, even if it's technically not fanfiction.

It feels real good finally getting her down on "paper" instead of being locked in my head. I'll still be posting some more of Devi but it was one way to send her off now that the final game is out (and of course, let's see what comes this summer).


Then I'm looking forward to reading the stories of Nemain and Indra:O  
Oh and you better continue to post pics of Devi:wub:


I second both of these statements...

Awesome read there files...and you say you can't write up good stories about your characters...LOL.

I may try and do one for Allison atleast myself at some point both here and over at femshep.com.

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Arppis wrote...

So... Why can't FemShep atract human males? Is it her cold tone of voice or something?

There is just 2 options: Jacob and Kaidan. Basicaly Jacob cheats on her and Kaidan... might secretly like men! And then there is bunch of alien options.

Whats up with that?


Sigh. <_<

There's such a thing called bisexuality, by the way. Even if he "secretly likes men", he likes women too. It doesn't have to be either/or, nor does it mean he's lusting after every dude he sees when he's dating a woman (or even when he's not). Ugh.

And cold tone of voice? Where'd you get that from? Why would that be more attractive to aliens than humans anyway?

Modifié par yukidama, 09 avril 2012 - 12:52 .


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Arppis wrote...

So... Why can't FemShep atract human males? Is it her cold tone of voice or something?

There is just 2 options: Jacob and Kaidan. Basicaly Jacob cheats on her and Kaidan... might secretly like men! And then there is bunch of alien options.

Whats up with that?


The writers screwed up  Maybe human males are intimidated by her

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krayzi wrote...

Arppis wrote...

So... Why can't FemShep atract human males? Is it her cold tone of voice or something?

There is just 2 options: Jacob and Kaidan. Basicaly Jacob cheats on her and Kaidan... might secretly like men! And then there is bunch of alien options.

Whats up with that?


The writers screwed up  Maybe human males are intimidated by her

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some new pics of Dawn

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You know, that might actualy be true. Maybe they are.

I for one find the voice acting quite "chilling". (Cool character btw)

yukidama wrote...

Arppis wrote...

So... Why can't FemShep atract human males? Is it her cold tone of voice or something?

There
is just 2 options: Jacob and Kaidan. Basicaly Jacob cheats on her and
Kaidan... might secretly like men! And then there is bunch of alien
options.

Whats up with that?


Sigh. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

There's
such a thing called bisexuality, by the way. Even if he "secretly likes
men", he likes women too. It doesn't have to be either/or, nor does it
mean he's lusting after every dude he sees when he's dating a woman (or
even when he's not). Ugh.

And cold tone of voice? Where'd you get that from? Why would that be more attractive to aliens than humans anyway?


Well because aliens have different peferences.

And sure bisexuality, I know, I know... But that's like only human male romance she can have that lasts. And it's with a person who peferes both camps.

Modifié par Arppis, 09 avril 2012 - 12:58 .


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krayzi wrote...

Arppis wrote...

So... Why can't FemShep atract human males? Is it her cold tone of voice or something?

There is just 2 options: Jacob and Kaidan. Basicaly Jacob cheats on her and Kaidan... might secretly like men! And then there is bunch of alien options.

Whats up with that?


The writers screwed up  Maybe human males are intimidated by her

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some new pics of Dawn

[snips Dawn]

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Once again gonna agree with krayzi...though I think yuki points are right on the money where Kaidan is concerned...

Dawn looks as awesome as ever... I noticed your armor color choice matches her hair color any significance? :D

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And honestly I don't necessarily think the writers messed up by giving FemShep so many alien options as much as that there is a blatant disparity between what Male Shep gets in comparison. All his LI are curvy human and human appearing ladies in skintight outfits (ME3's male options aside), I guess the women have to look hot for them to be viable LI (just look at Tali unmasked) while women supposedly go for personality over appearance. Not saying I don't like it since Garrus is my favorite LI, but their thought process seems a bit skewed in that regard. Like, I can't see them giving Male Shep a turian female LI, unless they give her huge boobs.

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yukidama wrote...

And honestly I don't necessarily think the writers messed up by giving FemShep so many alien options as much as that there is a blatant disparity between what Male Shep gets in comparison. All his LI are curvy human and human appearing ladies in skintight outfits (ME3's male options aside), I guess the women have to look hot for them to be viable LI (just look at Tali unmasked) while women supposedly go for personality over appearance. Not saying I don't like it since Garrus is my favorite LI, but their thought process seems a bit skewed in that regard.


Tali is with her mask for majority of the series and people still like her a lot. At 3rd game, you see her without a mask on picture. Tali has awesome personality, I actualy like that a lot about her. Ashley always had personality with her (and yeah the looks), but they downplayed her a lot in 3rd game, she didn't almost say anything in the 3rd game after you got her on squad. Miranda? Never really liked her, but she has nice backstory and personality with it. And Kelly too.

I'm sure guys don't solely go for looks here. But yeah, they are beautifully done.

FemShep still gets pretty much abandoned by the human males still and has many alien love interests. I just found the fact quite interesting.

EDIT: And women totaly don't need huge boobs!

...just nice butt is enough.

Modifié par Arppis, 09 avril 2012 - 01:15 .


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Sinapus wrote...

Tup3xi wrote...

nranola wrote...

^

*grabbyhands?* :D

What settings did you use on yours?

Me? Put these under [SystemSettings] in GamerSettings.ini:

MaxShadowResolution=1024
MaxWholeSceneDominantShadowResolution=4096 <- not 100% sure what this controls
ShadowTexelsPerPixel=4.000000 <- just in case
ShadowFilterQualityBias=4
ShadowFilterRadius=4

MaxShadowResolution is performance killer and bigger is better in it. if you aren't forcing ridiculous amounts of MSAA or SSAA 2048 should be fine too. Maximum is probably 4096. It doesn't benefit that much when you go over 1024 (and shadow filtering quality wise it may not be a good thing since sharper isn't necessarily better in this case).

These do not get rid of the problem but improves the situation a bit.


Are there similar custom settings for the previous two games?


Yeah, I use

ShadowTexelsPerPixel=4.000000
ShadowFilterQualityBias=4
ShadowFilterRadius=4
MaxShadowResolution=1024

in Mass Effect 2 and in ME1 I use these:

bEnableVSMShadows=True
bEnableBranchingPCFShadows=False
ShadowFilterQualityBias=4
^^everywhere they might occur.

[Engine.Engine]
ShadowFilterRadius=4
DepthBias=.03
MaxShadowResolution=4096
ModShadowFadeDistanceExponent=.2

[Engine.GameEngine]
ShadowFilterRadius=4.000000
DepthBias=0.030000
MaxShadowResolution=4096
ModShadowFadeDistanceExponent=0.200000

I really hated branching PCF shadows in ME1. They had horrible shadow edge filtering. This is with VSM shadows and those filtering adjustments (and ambient occlusion):
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@Krayzi and Raziel1980: Thanks again. You've motivated me to get to writing Nemain down as soon as possible. I'd love to see more profiles of other Femsheps; that includes Alex and Allison.=]

Yukidama wrote.....

And honestly I don't necessarily think the writers messed up by giving FemShep so many alien options as much as that there is a blatant disparity between what Male Shep gets in comparison. All his LI are curvy human and human appearing ladies in skintight outfits (ME3's male options aside), I guess the women have to look hot for them to be viable LI (just look at Tali unmasked) while women supposedly go for personality over appearance. Not saying I don't like it since Garrus is my favorite LI, but their thought process seems a bit skewed in that regard. Like, I can't see them giving Male Shep a turian female LI, unless they give her huge boobs.


I'm with you on this one. I don't feel bad in admitting that I much prefer a romance with a more human shaped---human, even!----male character. As lovely a character as Garrus is, watching his romance with Nemain is not nearly as gratifying as watching the one with Kaidan and Devi. Does that make me racist? Eh, don't care if it does, but I see no shame in wanting more human love....

As for the point on bisexuality.....absolutely nothing wrong with it and one of my characters is paired with Liara, but I do get the sense that Bioware much prefers Femshep to be either bisexual or a lesbian, which is annoying. I feel as though they are shoving Liara's relationship with Shepard down our throats. Give me the equivalent with Maleshep (Kaidan doesn't really count because of his late arrival regarding gay romance) and maybe I will no longer feel as though the lesbianism is portrayed more for the satisfaction of straight male gamers than lesbian fans of the series.

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@Arppis:

What does it matter if Kaidan is a romance option for both male and female Shepard? Does him being bisexual some how make him less of a character? Or his romance with femshep less valid because of it? To be honest I'm not sure what point you're trying to make?

Yes there are a lack of human male romance options for femshep, but what Kaidan's sexual orrientation has to do with that, I'm not sure.

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Akari Tenshi wrote...

@Arppis:

What does it matter if Kaidan is a romance option for both male and female Shepard? Does him being bisexual some how make him less of a character? Or his romance with femshep less valid because of it? To be honest I'm not sure what point you're trying to make?

Yes there are a lack of human male romance options for femshep, but what Kaidan's sexual orrientation has to do with that, I'm not sure.


Doesn't matter one bit. I never said that. I'm ok with people and their sexuality. It's beside the point. You are just reading too much into that little detail in the text.

Just saying how lacking the human relationships are. So does female Shepard repell men then?

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I'll steal this from the Garrus thread, since it's relevant to the current discussion

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Relationships are lacking for straight FemShep in ME3 period. I love Garrus, but you can only romance him in ME2. And Kaidan has grown on me in ME3 since I think they brought out his character more. Only those two - Garrus and Kaidan - stay true and don't die on you. For ManShep, he has several choices and they all stay alive and they all stay true to him. It's like, why couldn't ManShep get his heart broken?

It's frustrating to me, despite how much I love the Garrus and Kaidan romance. I wish my FemSheps had more options.

Wulfram wrote...

I'll steal this from the Garrus thread, since it's relevant to the current discussion

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:wub:

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Wulfram wrote...

I'll steal this from the Garrus thread, since it's relevant to the current discussion

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Anything making fun of hispters is a win my book. 

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Arppis wrote...

Akari Tenshi wrote...

@Arppis:

What does it matter if Kaidan is a romance option for both male and female Shepard? Does him being bisexual some how make him less of a character? Or his romance with femshep less valid because of it? To be honest I'm not sure what point you're trying to make?

Yes there are a lack of human male romance options for femshep, but what Kaidan's sexual orrientation has to do with that, I'm not sure.


Doesn't matter one bit. I never said that. I'm ok with people and their sexuality. It's beside the point. You are just reading too much into that little detail in the text.

Just saying how lacking the human relationships are. So does female Shepard repell men then?


Then why did you feel it was necessary to point out that Kaidan is a romance option for both a male and female Shepard in two seperate posts?

And sure bisexuality, I know, I know... But that's like only human male romance she can have that lasts. And it's with a person who peferes both camps.


There is just 2 options: Jacob and Kaidan. Basicaly Jacob cheats on her and Kaidan... might secretly like men! And then there is bunch of alien option.


It makes no difference to the question your asking, so why bring it up? Yes there are a lack of human male options for female Shepard, but again I fail to see what Kaidan's sexual preferrence has to do with that.

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Arppis wrote...

yukidama wrote...

And honestly I don't necessarily think the writers messed up by giving FemShep so many alien options as much as that there is a blatant disparity between what Male Shep gets in comparison. All his LI are curvy human and human appearing ladies in skintight outfits (ME3's male options aside), I guess the women have to look hot for them to be viable LI (just look at Tali unmasked) while women supposedly go for personality over appearance. Not saying I don't like it since Garrus is my favorite LI, but their thought process seems a bit skewed in that regard.


Tali is with her mask for majority of the series and people still like her a lot. At 3rd game, you see her without a mask on picture. Tali has awesome personality, I actualy like that a lot about her. Ashley always had personality with her (and yeah the looks), but they downplayed her a lot in 3rd game, she didn't almost say anything in the 3rd game after you got her on squad. Miranda? Never really liked her, but she has nice backstory and personality with it. And Kelly too.

I'm sure guys don't solely go for looks here. But yeah, they are beautifully done.

FemShep still gets pretty much abandoned by the human males still and has many alien love interests. I just found the fact quite interesting.

EDIT: And women totaly don't need huge boobs!

...just nice butt is enough.


That's not the point I was making, though. Regardless of personality, all the female love interests *are* traditionally attractive and curvaceous with very sexualized outfits (and there are ways of making outfits sexualized without nudity). It has nothing to do with the reality of what people actually prefer, this is what the devs decided to do and honestly the reactions I've seen doesn't do much to prove them wrong anyway.

They did have something unique in Tali, but at the end of the day they still made her a photoshopped human lady with long flowing hair and a manicure.

I don't think there's any in-game answer to why FemShep has a lot of alien love interests, it's just what the devs feel like doing. Doesn't really matter to me if she has more aliens than humans, since the only characters I like as love interests for FemShep are Garrus and to a lesser extent, Liara. I just think that their thought process is dudes want hot chix, ladies want personality. BUT ANYWAY.

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Relationships are lacking for straight FemShep in ME3 period. I love Garrus, but you can only romance him in ME2. And Kaidan has grown on me in ME3 since I think they brought out his character more. Only those two - Garrus and Kaidan - stay true and don't die on you. For ManShep, he has several choices and they all stay alive and they all stay true to him. It's like, why couldn't ManShep get his heart broken?

It's frustrating to me, despite how much I love the Garrus and Kaidan romance. I wish my FemSheps had more options.

Wulfram wrote...

I'll steal this from the Garrus thread, since it's relevant to the current discussion

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:wub:


This is gonna be a double quote from me here...

@Wulfram - I don't know if I could have said better myself... 5 of my 6 femsheps are/will be dating Garrus ( from ME 2 to 3) and the one that didn't dated Thane( after Liara in ME 1) in ME 2( we all see how that played out...so she is going back to ME 2 where she can be happiest). So, it is a matter of preference...and for me it's definetely about personality. I say this as a straight male with male sheps who dated Miranda n Liara for the personnality above anything else.

@PhantomGinger...and this once again begs the question as to why in the hell is Vega NOT at the very least an OPTION for femshep( and maleshep) as a romance!

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Akari Tenshi wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Akari Tenshi wrote...

@Arppis:

What does it matter if Kaidan is a romance option for both male and female Shepard? Does him being bisexual some how make him less of a character? Or his romance with femshep less valid because of it? To be honest I'm not sure what point you're trying to make?

Yes there are a lack of human male romance options for femshep, but what Kaidan's sexual orrientation has to do with that, I'm not sure.


Doesn't matter one bit. I never said that. I'm ok with people and their sexuality. It's beside the point. You are just reading too much into that little detail in the text.

Just saying how lacking the human relationships are. So does female Shepard repell men then?


Then why did you feel it was necessary to point out that Kaidan is a romance option for both a male and female Shepard in two seperate posts?

And sure bisexuality, I know, I know... But that's like only human male romance she can have that lasts. And it's with a person who peferes both camps.


There is just 2 options: Jacob and Kaidan. Basicaly Jacob cheats on her and Kaidan... might secretly like men! And then there is bunch of alien option.


It makes no difference to the question your asking, so why bring it up? Yes there are a lack of human male options for female Shepard, but again I fail to see what Kaidan's sexual preferrence has to do with that.


Doesn't matter otherwise, but it's anomality in the data. Meaning that there isn't a proper pure straight option for FemShep. But bi-sexual is pretty close as it is.

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Wulfram wrote...

I'll steal this from the Garrus thread, since it's relevant to the current discussion

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:lol:

yukidama wrote...

Arppis wrote...

yukidama wrote...

And
honestly I don't necessarily think the writers messed up by giving
FemShep so many alien options as much as that there is a blatant
disparity between what Male Shep gets in comparison. All his LI are
curvy human and human appearing ladies in skintight outfits (ME3's male
options aside), I guess the women have to look hot for them to be viable
LI (just look at Tali unmasked) while women supposedly go for
personality over appearance. Not saying I don't like it since Garrus is
my favorite LI, but their thought process seems a bit skewed in that
regard.


Tali is with her mask for majority of the series
and people still like her a lot. At 3rd game, you see her without a mask
on picture. Tali has awesome personality, I actualy like that a lot
about her. Ashley always had personality with her (and yeah the looks),
but they downplayed her a lot in 3rd game, she didn't almost say
anything in the 3rd game after you got her on squad. Miranda? Never
really liked her, but she has nice backstory and personality with it.
And Kelly too.

I'm sure guys don't solely go for looks here. But yeah, they are beautifully done.

FemShep
still gets pretty much abandoned by the human males still and has many
alien love interests. I just found the fact quite interesting.

EDIT: And women totaly don't need huge boobs!

...just nice butt is enough.


That's
not the point I was making, though. Regardless of personality, all the
female love interests *are* traditionally attractive and curvaceous with
very sexualized outfits (and there are ways of making outfits
sexualized without nudity). It has nothing to do with the reality of
what people actually prefer, this is what the devs decided to do and
honestly the reactions I've seen doesn't do much to prove them wrong
anyway.

They did have something unique in Tali, but at the
end of the day they still made her a photoshopped human lady with long
flowing hair and a manicure.

I don't think there's any in-game
answer to why FemShep has a lot of alien love interests, it's just what
the devs feel like doing. Doesn't really matter to me if she has more
aliens than humans, since the only characters I like as love interests
for FemShep are Garrus and to a lesser extent, Liara. I just think that
their thought process is dudes want hot chix, ladies want personality.
BUT ANYWAY.

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Fair enough, and cool character. :)

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