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RainyDayLover wrote...

Here's another question: are there any femsheps here where Shepard isn't their real name?

That's the case with my Velicity Shepard. She was named Avalyn "Red" Azzara, meaning "beautiful breath of life" but she found herself to be anything but, especially growing up in the crime-ridden New York City. So after THE NIGHT that changed her life, she changed her name....just before joining the Alliance as she wanted to completely forget her past and never set foot on Earth again.

It got really interesting when she got a reminder of that past when the Reds caught up with her on the Citadel. She told them to screw off and when Finch blackmailed her, she completely lost it and gunned him down, tying up the last loose end which connected her to that nightmarish past.


:) Yep, Siri shares  a similar fate.  Siri never knew her real name. She got name Sigrid, when they found her as newborn baby. In her gang years  :bandit:she called herself  Siren and she loved it :devil:. She took Siri Shepard  as her name before joining the Alliance. She's  this "burn all bridges" kind;)
 
Now I realize that I haven't written anything about her...:o

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I picked Earthborn/Sole Survivor for Alice, but when I started writing her, I realized that such a background was a recipe for a really messed up Shepard.  That wasn't exactly what I wanted, but I wasn't about to change her, so I had to go back and figure out what it was about her that got her through those events without being so damaged.

I remember being on the train one day a few years and these two young guys got on, one of whom was in a shouting match with another passenger and looked about ready to tussle.  The guy's friend just stood in between his buddy and the other guy, calm as anything, just saying "Nope, you're not getting by"  He was completely unfazed by any of it.  It looked like he was the kind of guy who had seen a few fights in his time.  Then it dawned on me that because he's seen/been in so many fights, he knows that there's no reason to get into one.  That was the kind of attitude that I wanted to give Alice.  She's been through so much that very little that anyone says fazes her anymore.  That's why she doesn't ever punch out Al-Jilani, she doesn't hit Gerrel, doesn't lose her cool when the merc on Omega calls her a stripper, etc.

She occasionally does still lose her head, thought, for various reasons.  Interestingly, most of those reasons revolve around Liara...  Let it never be said that Ali-cat could keep her cool around a girl...  :whistle:

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Now THAT is an awesome way to look at it. I absolutely love this perspective. :wub:

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Gilsa wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

I picked Earthborn/Sole Survivor for Alice, but when I started writing her, I realized that such a background was a recipe for a really messed up Shepard.  That wasn't exactly what I wanted, but I wasn't about to change her, so I had to go back and figure out what it was about her that got her through those events without being so damaged.

I remember being on the train one day a few years and these two young guys got on, one of whom was in a shouting match with another passenger and looked about ready to tussle.  The guy's friend just stood in between his buddy and the other guy, calm as anything, just saying "Nope, you're not getting by"  He was completely unfazed by any of it.  It looked like he was the kind of guy who had seen a few fights in his time.  Then it dawned on me that because he's seen/been in so many fights, he knows that there's no reason to get into one.  That was the kind of attitude that I wanted to give Alice.  She's been through so much that very little that anyone says fazes her anymore.  That's why she doesn't ever punch out Al-Jilani, she doesn't hit Gerrel, doesn't lose her cool when the merc on Omega calls her a stripper, etc.

She occasionally does still lose her head, thought, for various reasons.  Interestingly, most of those reasons revolve around Liara...  Let it never be said that Ali-cat could keep her cool around a girl...  :whistle:

-beautiful pic snip-

Now THAT is an awesome way to look at it. I absolutely love this perspective. :wub:



I had my femshep go into that "nothing fazes her anymore" mode during ME3 (e.g. it was the only game where she didn't punch out Al-Jilani) where she didn't lose her head nearly as many times as she did in ME1/2 but that was part of her overall renegade/ruthless to a more paragon/compassionate transformation arc across the three games.

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Flies_by_Handles wrote...
I've noticed that a lot of Femshep players, maybe not here but elsewhere, were real offended by Jame's flirtatious behavior. Though I can see where they are coming from, I just don't see my main character Devi taking offense. Maybe it's because James is the one who initiates the behavior (calling her Lola being the most obvious example), or maybe it's because it would feel real petty to have her feel slighted.


Honestly, my biggest issue with it is the lack of choice when it comes to it. You're not allowed to choose how to respond, you're not allowed to choose to say anything about it or shut it down, and you're not allowed to choose not to flirt back, even if it's joking. I don't like how he acts and I find it disrespectful as hell, but I would be a lot more okay with it if you were given an option at all. Like, maybe if he only does it if you allowed him to call you Lola and the other path doesn't have the ******-staring and body commentary and Shepard isn't forced to make awkward comments all the time. It's fine for some Shepards, and in fact the alt I was playing was okay with it, but my main wasn't and I hated that she was railroaded into it. 

It's the lack of variety and choice that bugs me. That's a big issue with the whole game, though (no neutral options, lots of autodialogue).

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 Wow...what alot of intersting character stories here. :) You know as much as I talk about my main femshep Allison, i don't think i ever did character bio of her background story. Well, i suppose it is time I do that now. This is her pre-ME 1 history.

 Her full name is Allison Gunn - Shepard, she was earthborn kid born in Vancouver, Canada...has no surviving family as she moved aroudn quite abit from orphanage to orphanage until she met one Mr. and Mrs. John Shepard. it seems they saw on the streets one day running around with the wrong crowds getting into fights with various other gangs and factions( some of them alien) and they saw woman who had the potential to become something more than what she learned or been taught through a life of only living on the streets. Her adopted parents the Shepards would take Allison into their home where she was taught what meant to be a part of family and in this moemnt it was first time in her life, Allison had ever felt loved or even wanted but it seemed as if Allison also had another secret for which noone knew about.
                                         She would enter the Alliance at early age of 17, she was really smart in schooling... finished at the top of class graduating from High school at age 16. Her instructors always marveled at her above average combat ability but what really struck them as odd was above average biotic ability. The more strenous the training trainign she went through the stronger it seemed her powers became. She did however like the ability to use powers such as singularity n stasis and that combined with her strong combat know how and expert shooting ability at medium to close range with shotguns and assault rifles. She became one of the first true 'Vanguards' in the Alliance.
                                                  Allison's life in the military was one with incrdeible highs as she would impress all of her superior officers and squadmates. The would marvel at her natural leadership ability and natural grit and guts as well that undeniable force of will she possesed. It was this same force that allowed her to survive the ambush at Akuze an event that would shape the rest of her history and life. She however also had grown abit of a mean-streak...her personality change could only be attributed to her guilt for being the only member of team to survive. It was also this mission that led into her introduction to the N7 program, a program where only the best of the best and toughest , strongest, most capable soldiers in the Alliance Military would survive. Allison proved herself to be an N7 and more...as she quickly rose in rank and at age 28, she became Commander Allison G. Shepard of the SSV.

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That's the prologue of Allison's story... :D

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I finished the mission with the ex-Cerberus scientists (and Jacob) and Dawn was on the verge of losing her control. She hates Dr Archer with a passion and when she met him she couldn’t keep her emotions in check and wished that he would have been killed by Cerberus.
What Archer had done to his brother reminded her of what happened on Mindoir, where she witnessed how the Batarians implanted control chips into her friends and killed her family while all she did was hide. She still blames herself for this “cowardice”. 
After the end of the Overlord mission Dawn had nightmares that she thought were gone for a long time. Every night she saw her family and friends get tortured and killed. Every time she saw the face of her brother Ian, who tried to defend her and got killed because of that right in front of her and it effected her life. She was rude to her friends and crewmates and almost started a fight with Joker after one of his remarks.
After that Garrus intervened and they had a long talk about it because he is one of two people (the other one is Liara) who know about what happened to her on Mindoir. He managed to calm her down and made her focus on the mission again.
She felt better after it but she still has those nightmares from time to time.

(Wow, longest post I’ve ever written, so sorry about any grammar/spelling mistakes and if it doesn’t make any sense either:?)

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PhantomGinger wrote...

When I first created Naomi, I wanted to break the mold of my usual paragon. Colonist/Ruthless provided a good, gritty build and I ran with it. What kinda influenced me was a story from the Bible about a woman named Naomi who lost her entire family, and held bitter resentment towards God for the misfortune.

 

I'll have to read that story - seems like a rather interesting theme run with for your character. 

I actually be been  in the process of tweeking both my female Shepards and Male  Shepard, I have merged all 3 three into same head canon with  Kyra being the main Shepard of three.

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Flies_by_Handles wrote...
I've noticed that a lot of Femshep players, maybe not here but elsewhere, were real offended by Jame's flirtatious behavior. Though I can see where they are coming from, I just don't see my main character Devi taking offense. Maybe it's because James is the one who initiates the behavior (calling her Lola being the most obvious example), or maybe it's because it would feel real petty to have her feel slighted.


Honestly, my biggest issue with it is the lack of choice when it comes to it. You're not allowed to choose how to respond, you're not allowed to choose to say anything about it or shut it down, and you're not allowed to choose not to flirt back, even if it's joking. I don't like how he acts and I find it disrespectful as hell, but I would be a lot more okay with it if you were given an option at all. Like, maybe if he only does it if you allowed him to call you Lola and the other path doesn't have the ******-staring and body commentary and Shepard isn't forced to make awkward comments all the time. It's fine for some Shepards, and in fact the alt I was playing was okay with it, but my main wasn't and I hated that she was railroaded into it. 

It's the lack of variety and choice that bugs me. That's a big issue with the whole game, though (no neutral options, lots of autodialogue).

Lack of choices is something that bugs me in general in ME3 (and middle choices). That James situation is a bit like trooper and Jonas talks BUT you can choose how your character responds.

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Nea does that just to ****** Elara off. :devil:

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yukidama wrote...

Flies_by_Handles wrote...
I've noticed that a lot of Femshep players, maybe not here but elsewhere, were real offended by Jame's flirtatious behavior. Though I can see where they are coming from, I just don't see my main character Devi taking offense. Maybe it's because James is the one who initiates the behavior (calling her Lola being the most obvious example), or maybe it's because it would feel real petty to have her feel slighted.


Honestly, my biggest issue with it is the lack of choice when it comes to it. You're not allowed to choose how to respond, you're not allowed to choose to say anything about it or shut it down, and you're not allowed to choose not to flirt back, even if it's joking. I don't like how he acts and I find it disrespectful as hell, but I would be a lot more okay with it if you were given an option at all. Like, maybe if he only does it if you allowed him to call you Lola and the other path doesn't have the ******-staring and body commentary and Shepard isn't forced to make awkward comments all the time. It's fine for some Shepards, and in fact the alt I was playing was okay with it, but my main wasn't and I hated that she was railroaded into it. 

It's the lack of variety and choice that bugs me. That's a big issue with the whole game, though (no neutral options, lots of autodialogue).


I liked it because that kind of relationship fit well (like uncannily so) with Alice's backstory.  I do agree, though, that more choice == better, and having the ability to tell him to step off would have been preferrable to being railroaded one way or another.

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too many words...not enough pics:

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krayzi wrote...

I finished the mission with the ex-Cerberus scientists (and Jacob) and Dawn was on the verge of losing her control. She hates Dr Archer with a passion and when she met him she couldn’t keep her emotions in check and wished that he would have been killed by Cerberus.
What Archer had done to his brother reminded her of what happened on Mindoir, where she witnessed how the Batarians implanted control chips into her friends and killed her family while all she did was hide. She still blames herself for this “cowardice”. 
After the end of the Overlord mission Dawn had nightmares that she thought were gone for a long time. Every night she saw her family and friends get tortured and killed. Every time she saw the face of her brother Ian, who tried to defend her and got killed because of that right in front of her and it effected her life. She was rude to her friends and crewmates and almost started a fight with Joker after one of his remarks.
After that Garrus intervened and they had a long talk about it because he is one of two people (the other one is Liara) who know about what happened to her on Mindoir. He managed to calm her down and made her focus on the mission again.
She felt better after it but she still has those nightmares from time to time.

(Wow, longest post I’ve ever written, so sorry about any grammar/spelling mistakes and if it doesn’t make any sense either:?)

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raziel1980 wrote...

 Wow...what alot of intersting character stories here. :) You know as much as I talk about my main femshep Allison, i don't think i ever did character bio of her background story. Well, i suppose it is time I do that now. This is her pre-ME 1 history.

 Her full name is Allison Gunn - Shepard, she was earthborn kid born in Vancouver, Canada...has no surviving family as she moved aroudn quite abit from orphanage to orphanage until she met one Mr. and Mrs. John Shepard. it seems they saw on the streets one day running around with the wrong crowds getting into fights with various other gangs and factions( some of them alien) and they saw woman who had the potential to become something more than what she learned or been taught through a life of only living on the streets. Her adopted parents the Shepards would take Allison into their home where she was taught what meant to be a part of family and in this moemnt it was first time in her life, Allison had ever felt loved or even wanted but it seemed as if Allison also had another secret for which noone knew about.
                                         She would enter the Alliance at early age of 17, she was really smart in schooling... finished at the top of class graduating from High school at age 16. Her instructors always marveled at her above average combat ability but what really struck them as odd was above average biotic ability. The more strenous the training trainign she went through the stronger it seemed her powers became. She did however like the ability to use powers such as singularity n stasis and that combined with her strong combat know how and expert shooting ability at medium to close range with shotguns and assault rifles. She became one of the first true 'Vanguards' in the Alliance.
                                                  Allison's life in the military was one with incrdeible highs as she would impress all of her superior officers and squadmates. The would marvel at her natural leadership ability and natural grit and guts as well that undeniable force of will she possesed. It was this same force that allowed her to survive the ambush at Akuze an event that would shape the rest of her history and life. She however also had grown abit of a mean-streak...her personality change could only be attributed to her guilt for being the only member of team to survive. It was also this mission that led into her introduction to the N7 program, a program where only the best of the best and toughest , strongest, most capable soldiers in the Alliance Military would survive. Allison proved herself to be an N7 and more...as she quickly rose in rank and at age 28, she became Commander Allison G. Shepard of the SSV.

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That's the prologue of Allison's story... :D


great story:wub:. I want more!:devil:

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too many words...not enough pics:


 Nope.

This past week or so has been too many pics, not enough words. Happy to see the reverse for once.

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yukidama wrote...

Honestly, my biggest issue with it is the lack of choice when it comes to it. You're not allowed to choose how to respond, you're not allowed to choose to say anything about it or shut it down, and you're not allowed to choose not to flirt back, even if it's joking. I don't like how he acts and I find it disrespectful as hell, but I would be a lot more okay with it if you were given an option at all. Like, maybe if he only does it if you allowed him to call you Lola and the other path doesn't have the ******-staring and body commentary and Shepard isn't forced to make awkward comments all the time. It's fine for some Shepards, and in fact the alt I was playing was okay with it, but my main wasn't and I hated that she was railroaded into it. 

It's the lack of variety and choice that bugs me. That's a big issue with the whole game, though (no neutral options, lots of autodialogue).

Bolding the part I definitely agree with. His flirting doesn't bother me, it's part of his character. I was just surprised when my no-nonsense Shepard automatically played along with it at times like asking him if he was ever going to make good on all this flirting. Wasn't a deal-breaker. I liked how they set it up with Kelly Chambers where Shepard made it clear from the get-go that they weren't going to be best friends. Kelly became Yeoman Chambers for the rest of the game and there was no option to take her out to dinner or anything, which was fine with me. They did cut out some flirty interactions for a professional Shepard with James, it did seem odd here and there when the occasional purr slipped by.

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yukidama wrote...

Flies_by_Handles wrote...
I've noticed that a lot of Femshep players, maybe not here but elsewhere, were real offended by Jame's flirtatious behavior. Though I can see where they are coming from, I just don't see my main character Devi taking offense. Maybe it's because James is the one who initiates the behavior (calling her Lola being the most obvious example), or maybe it's because it would feel real petty to have her feel slighted.


Honestly, my biggest issue with it is the lack of choice when it comes to it. You're not allowed to choose how to respond, you're not allowed to choose to say anything about it or shut it down, and you're not allowed to choose not to flirt back, even if it's joking. I don't like how he acts and I find it disrespectful as hell, but I would be a lot more okay with it if you were given an option at all. Like, maybe if he only does it if you allowed him to call you Lola and the other path doesn't have the ******-staring and body commentary and Shepard isn't forced to make awkward comments all the time. It's fine for some Shepards, and in fact the alt I was playing was okay with it, but my main wasn't and I hated that she was railroaded into it. 

It's the lack of variety and choice that bugs me. That's a big issue with the whole game, though (no neutral options, lots of autodialogue).

I have to agree.

It wasn't Vega's flirting that bothered me. It was Shepard automatically flirting back with the player having no choice in that matter. I'm glad it worked for some of you, but it didn't work for me.

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It only happens if you let him call you Lola.

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Mr.House wrote...

It only happens if you let him call you Lola.

No, it doesn't. James will still flirt and Shepard will still flirt back.

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The only way to avoid it completely is to not talk to him.

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Even the Paragon and Renegade interupts didnt change anything really.  The outcomes were still the same on the vast majority of things.  You kill Kai Leng or Udina or a squadmate does it for you.    Choice was almost an illusion in this game, it certainly the most linear in path out the three games. 

Still, you cant fault it on the emotional impact and drama. The outcome of many of your decisions really pulled your emotions. Credit to Bioware where its deserved, they really know how to hit your heart. Even with the lack of choice, the vast majority of outcomes didnt really need it as they created a situation which still was brilliantly effectiive.

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Chugster wrote...

too many words...not enough pics:


 Nope.

This past week or so has been too many pics, not enough words. Happy to see the reverse for once.


Tell me about it,  the pic bombs are actually really putting me off this thread of late.  One or two pics per post is fine.  But 5 or 6 every other is a killer.   Its nice to have some discussion going again.

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Chignon wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

It only happens if you let him call you Lola.

No, it doesn't. James will still flirt and Shepard will still flirt back.

The only time Shepard ever flirts back is when he get's his N7 tat and that's not flirting, that's Shepard calling him out and he reacts just liek SHepard though. He flirts yes, but as long as you say it's Commander, she will never flirt back and will only call him out when he get's his tat.

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Mr.House wrote...

Chignon wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

It only happens if you let him call you Lola.

No, it doesn't. James will still flirt and Shepard will still flirt back.

The only time Shepard ever flirts back is when he get's his N7 tat and that's not flirting, that's Shepard calling him out and he reacts just liek SHepard though. He flirts yes, but as long as you say it's Commander, she will never flirt back and will only call him out when he get's his tat.

House, I tried it. It's the exact same dialogue. The only change being is that he calls her Commander instead of Lola.

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Chignon wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Chignon wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

It only happens if you let him call you Lola.

No, it doesn't. James will still flirt and Shepard will still flirt back.

The only time Shepard ever flirts back is when he get's his N7 tat and that's not flirting, that's Shepard calling him out and he reacts just liek SHepard though. He flirts yes, but as long as you say it's Commander, she will never flirt back and will only call him out when he get's his tat.

House, I tried it. It's the exact same dialogue. The only change being is that he calls her Commander instead of Lola.


Yep.

Chignon wrote...
It wasn't Vega's flirting that bothered me. It was Shepard automatically flirting back with the player having no choice in that matter. I'm glad it worked for some of you, but it didn't work for me.


This.

I avoid some convos with him b/c of it.

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jlb524 wrote...

Chignon wrote...
It wasn't Vega's flirting that bothered me. It was Shepard automatically flirting back with the player having no choice in that matter. I'm glad it worked for some of you, but it didn't work for me.


This.

I avoid some convos with him b/c of it.

I do as well.

It's unfortunate, though. As Gilsa suggested, BioWare should've taken the Kelly route with him. If Shepard allows the nickname, let them flirt. If she doesn't, no flirting.

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Well its like Lair of the Shadow Broker.

Shepard is best buds forever with Liara through the entire thing....
That really did not fit on my racist renegade Shepard.