20761 réponses à ce sujet

[SaturnRing]

@Krayzi: nice post about Dawn; it allows us to see her through a more human light, just as a woman who went through a lot of diffficult times and doesn't the answers to everything...it makes her so much more attractive; her past as you describe it - her brother; the batarians- is truly heartbraking.

@raziel: After reading the backstory, i wish i could salute and then give Allison a hug.

Modifié par SaturnRing, 12 avril 2012 - 09:40 .

[2leggywillow]

RainyDayLover wrote...

Here's another question: are there any femsheps here where Shepard isn't their real name?

This is the case for my Jennie.  As an orphan baby on Earth I guess she was a Baby Jane Doe, and the "Jane" slowly became Jennie.

After she left the Reds, Jennie ended up taking odd jobs and hopping cities for a while until she met Ms. Shepard, a storeowner and widow who gave her a steady job at her diner.  Jennie stayed there until she was nearly 18, when Mrs. Shepard died and her business was seized.  She did a lot to help get Jennie on the right track and became a sort of mother figure to her.  When Jennie joined the Alliance, she couldn't think of any surname she would rather take.

Modifié par 2leggywillow, 12 avril 2012 - 09:40 .

[Visii]

Dear Shepard fans (I sure hope that's all of us!),

I would appreciate it very much if you would consider submitting something to a new project: The Tribute.

http://social.biowar...ndex/11315889/1

This project is one that focuses on Shepard and LI your particular Shepard chose. Letters, fanart and screenshots are all quite welcome! If you can, please contribute!

The PAX LI Appreciation Project was a resounding success, and garnered feedback from Patrick Weekes, who encouraged all of us to do what we can to make ourselves heard about the characters we love, and what I feel is very easily forgotten around here is that Shepard is one of them!

[2leggywillow]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Well its like Lair of the Shadow Broker.

Shepard is best buds forever with Liara through the entire thing....
That really did not fit on my racist renegade Shepard.

Yeah, this too.  I've really just come to accept that Shepard is not a character entirely of my creating, and the easiest thing to do is just accept that Shepard is besties with Liara no matter what in this case.  Then again, I really like characters like Shepard and Hawke, where my role is less about creating her from scratch and more about examining her backstory and saying "Okay, I didn't really get to choose her actions, but I can examine and make up why she reacted that way."  Lucky for me I find that more fun than being given a blank-slate character ala Elder Scrolls characters, otherwise I would be very annoyed to have so many things out of my control in ME3.

[Chignon]

No, thank you. I like your explanation but it is not my Shepard.

Edit

Also no one has said anything about James acting "disrespectful" or "raining down the Patriarchy". I, and apparently some others, simply dislike the flirting as it is in the game and can't headcanon it to fit our Shepards. So, in order to avoid OOC behaviour, we tend to not talk to him. 

Modifié par Chignon, 12 avril 2012 - 10:01 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Personally I got more pissed when Shepard seems to flirt with tons of people.

Now I like Kaidan, James, and Cortez
But not in that way.

To have Shepard start doing that is really annoying.

"HI!" should not equal "Hi sexy thing my bed is soft!"
People can rip on Dragon Age 2 all they want but at least you were not forced to flirt with people left and right.

[Captain Crash]

Its kind of a weird one isnt it.  I mean you would have thought the whole Jacob reaction would have caught on.  I think its Femshep just being overly friendly in light of the tough time shes having dealing with everything. It would be easy for her to dismiss everyone, but she knows she has to try keep people close. Again its an explanation, but it wont suit all Sheps. Actually Vega's personality is one where you going to be aggressive to, or a bit flirty with. Shame that other side wasnt catered for. Still I think this is one of those limitation elements. Nether-the-less as stated the reaction to forced flirting with Jacob should have set off alarm bells.


Anyway chatting away at femshep.com and this is new to me and MR V so decided to post it.  Very impressive  :happy:

 

Modifié par Captain Crash, 12 avril 2012 - 10:09 .

[Lianna sFfalenn]

With thanks to ELE08 and Eranen, who made this possible for me to do, and krayzi, who gave me the idea for this bit of fun...

After recovering from the battle of Elysium, Aki Shepard is given "light duties", meaning touring around the galaxy as the Alliance's poster girl. Alliance PR decide that Aki's image needs some work to fit in with her new role...



"I am in a dress. I have gel in my hair, I haven't slept all night, I'm starved, and I'm armed. Don't mess with me!"

Modifié par Lianna sFfalenn, 12 avril 2012 - 10:12 .

[Tup3x]

I don't really mind it (flirting/banter thing with Vega) since my Shepard is single but for those Shepard's who have active romance with someone else it might be a bit odd. Not really from James' side but the fact that Shepard can't answer back (Vega, turpa kiinni!).

Modifié par Tup3xi, 12 avril 2012 - 10:13 .

[Syrdeth]

RainyDayLover wrote...

Here's another question: are there any femsheps here where Shepard isn't their real name?
.

Man, all the good discussions happen when I'm away and can't post.

Both of my FemSheps are colonists, so, yes, Shepard is their real name. I'm not quite sure why I made both of them colonists, but I've worked it into both of their back stories. They are practically mirror images of each other. I used the same face for both, but different hair/eye color and skin tone. Maria is a War Hero and full Paragon and Kendra is Ruthless and full Renegade. Maria had a happy home life on Mindoir before the attack and Kendra... did not. Both before and after the slaver attack affected them both differently and set them on their morality paths.

Basically, Maria was able to recover from it and Kendra.... was not. It still affects her and causes her to lash out at people.

I'm still working on the rest of it, especially Kendra's. I can't write anything decent for Maria without her being sickeningly "goody goody", but I am to try. She's got to have some flaws somewhere.

[Tup3x]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Tup3xi wrote...

I don't really mind it (flirting/banter thing with Vega) since my Shepard is single but for those Shepard's who have active romance with someone else it might be a bit odd. Not really from James' side but the fact that Shepard can't answer back (Vega, turpa kiinni!).

 Yeah, the thought crossed my mind since my main is paired with Kaidan but Kaidan has nothing to fear, really. James is a new addition to the ship. He's younger and has less experience than Kaidan; he's also not as mature or as attuned to Shepard's thoughts. Of course, this is how I imagine it. I don't see Kaidan becomming jealous of James behavior and I don't see Shepard feeling tempted by James' playful overtures. Given how accepting Kaidan was of Shepard's relationship with Thane, it would be out of character for him to blow up over something much less.

Well to be honest his "flirting" didn't seem too serious. At least I would have been a bit surprised if it did (which it didn't). He's just one of those guys who like to tease people a bit. Heck, he's teasing "Esteban" all the time too. James is still a bit reckless and, well, a bit childish in a way.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 12 avril 2012 - 10:44 .

[Chignon]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

 That line in particular wasn't directed towards you. If you reread my earlier post you'll see that I'm talking about Femshep players in general, elsewhere or here. I've come across some reactions that mirrored what I said about "disrespect" and "patriarchy".

I see. Thank you for clarifying.

Tup3xi wrote...

I don't really mind it (flirting/banter thing with Vega) since my Shepard is single but for those Shepard's who have active romance with someone else it might be a bit odd. Not really from James' side but the fact that Shepard can't answer back (Vega, turpa kiinni!).

Exactly, that's another thing.

[SaturnRing]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...


  I suppose that you could imagine Shepard's flirting as part of an act; playing along with the hopes of finding out what James is all about. Smiling with the mouth only and not the eyes, so to speak. You guys are right in wanting more options. I just don't think that Shepard was truly being treated with disrespect or that James was raining down the Patriarchy on her, or something, with his silly lines and all. Jacob's interaction with Shepard bothered me more in ME2 because it was Shepard that initiated the flirtatious behavior. It is harder to work around this kind of interaction. The banter between James and Shepard, in contrast, feels much more natural and is easily viewed as platonic or possibly even romantic. Of course that's just my opinion and I do feel for those who have characters that don't fit this type of interaction so well.

 That's how i see it as well. The James situation was handle so much better than Jacob's/who my Shep became good friend with regardless (wasn't his fault); just had to block some part of the conversation. In my playthrough all i had to do to stop the flirting with James from even starting was to go renegade on him during the fight (my Shep never bled) and not allow him tocall her Lola and then everything was fine: good and professional relashionship. Among other things, he is predictable. I could smell the flirting from a mile before it even had a chance to start; i then decide whether i wanted it or not; either way it did work out fine. Only on the 2nd that i did allow the Lola thing because my Shep is single and see no malice behind him flirting. Maybe i miss something.

[Aeowyn]

Chignon wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Flies_by_Handles wrote...
I've noticed that a lot of Femshep players, maybe not here but elsewhere, were real offended by Jame's flirtatious behavior. Though I can see where they are coming from, I just don't see my main character Devi taking offense. Maybe it's because James is the one who initiates the behavior (calling her Lola being the most obvious example), or maybe it's because it would feel real petty to have her feel slighted.

Honestly, my biggest issue with it is the lack of choice when it comes to it. You're not allowed to choose how to respond, you're not allowed to choose to say anything about it or shut it down, and you're not allowed to choose not to flirt back, even if it's joking. I don't like how he acts and I find it disrespectful as hell, but I would be a lot more okay with it if you were given an option at all. Like, maybe if he only does it if you allowed him to call you Lola and the other path doesn't have the ******-staring and body commentary and Shepard isn't forced to make awkward comments all the time. It's fine for some Shepards, and in fact the alt I was playing was okay with it, but my main wasn't and I hated that she was railroaded into it. 

It's the lack of variety and choice that bugs me. That's a big issue with the whole game, though (no neutral options, lots of autodialogue).

I have to agree.

It wasn't Vega's flirting that bothered me. It was Shepard automatically flirting back with the player having no choice in that matter. I'm glad it worked for some of you, but it didn't work for me.

I'm thirding this. It definitely did not work for my Shepard. She asked James to call her "Commander" and not "Lola", and then she keeps flirting back with him? What? Honestly, it just felt like he was a bit too chilled out around her and my Shepard didn't have the option to tell him off for the boob-stares and the comments. Annoying.

[meonlyred]

I actually really liked James and Zody's flirting. I was shipping that before the game even launched. Was actually hoping for a love triangle between her, James, and Kaidan. I like giving Kaidan just a bit of jealously. Give him just enough doubt but in the end Zody is and will always be Kaidan's but.....
I'm a terrible...
horrible person...

However, where it is perfect for Zody, it not perfect for Dakota, Penelope, or Faye. The problem not actually being that you flirt with Vega but that you have no choice in the matter. There is way to much auto dialogue imo.

[mellifera]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Well its like Lair of the Shadow Broker.

Shepard is best buds forever with Liara through the entire thing....
That really did not fit on my racist renegade Shepard.

I actually didn't really like that either. Loved it on my Shepard who romanced Liara, but my main didn't and it felt very... off. There was never any real indication they had been such chummy chums in ME1 the way I played it, so when they were joking it up and playing off each other like a comedy team I was just like... yeah, when did this happen?

But at least Liara never made a conversation have a really awkward pause to blatantly stare at Shepard's chest and Shepard never talked about how her bed is "harder than it looks" in what is one of the most facepalm inducing lines she spouted the entire game. When a dude made an unprompted comment about her body in the previous games, she was able to respond. Especially when it is something of this nature that makes a lot of people uncomfortable for a lot of reasons. Hell, Weekes even asked for feedback about this kind of thing on LiveJournal and the response was largely that women don't want to be reminded about having to deal with this stuff and if they do put it in they like having the option to shut it down. That's what I wanted. I don't give a damn if James keeps on acting like a cad, lighthearted or no. I just want the option. I don't want my Shepard to be a blank slate, but in this instance I think it doesn't do anything to the character to have the option to have the option to kill that line of flirtation, at least from Shepard's end. He could keep doing it for all I care, I'm just gonna think he's a jackass, but for Shepard to not have any choice in how to respond, especially since it would just pretty much be cutting out a handful of lines and adding one or two that doesn't cause any huge variation in characterization? It does bother me, more than most of the other autodialogue in conversations. I've always played my Shepard as reserved and not very flirtatious at *all* (talking to Jacob was painful a lot of the time and that bothered me too, but Jacob wasn't gross about it in return), so she wouldn't respond to James' actions positively. We always had the choice before, so all the justification in the world just doesn't work for me, tbh.

Modifié par yukidama, 13 avril 2012 - 12:13 .

[Sherbet Lemon]

yukidama wrote...

Honestly, my biggest issue with it is the lack of choice when it comes to it. You're not allowed to choose how to respond, you're not allowed to choose to say anything about it or shut it down, and you're not allowed to choose not to flirt back, even if it's joking. I don't like how he acts and I find it disrespectful as hell, but I would be a lot more okay with it if you were given an option at all. Like, maybe if he only does it if you allowed him to call you Lola and the other path doesn't have the ******-staring and body commentary and Shepard isn't forced to make awkward comments all the time. It's fine for some Shepards, and in fact the alt I was playing was okay with it, but my main wasn't and I hated that she was railroaded into it. 

It's the lack of variety and choice that bugs me. That's a big issue with the whole game, though (no neutral options, lots of autodialogue).

I just wanted to de-lurk and say that I completely agree.  My first playthrough was okay because it was my Earthborn, Saya Shepard who's had way worse things said to her really wasn't bothered by his flirting.  But the "bed is a lot harder than it looks" and "the you ever going make good on all this flirting" comment was not her. It's not because she's with Garrus, it's more just completely off.  My current playthrough is with my canon Shepard, Genevieve.  She will flirt with anything that moves so it's fine even though she'd NEVER cheat on Liara. She's just a jokester like that.  What really concerns me are my two upcoming colonists.  

Ellery, my paragon (colonist, war hero), is an absolute perfectionist with major control issues who values hard work, getting the job done, and mutual respect.  She wouldn't avoid him because she cares about the well being of her crew and she wouldn't even hate being called Lola, really.  She would hate the eye groping and she wouldn't flirt with him AT ALL.  She's lesbian.  She has absolutely NO interest in men whatsover even if it's lighthearted because she's a somewhat serious person.  In fact, she's so focused on doing her job, she hasn't had time for romance.  She's slated to romance Sam, but I don't know if that's even going to go down because I don't see her just walking into a shower fully dressed without really know her (sorry, that's off topic but relevant).  My other colonist, Luca (ruthless), would hate it because she wouldn't feel respected and I just couldn't see her saying some of those things at all.  Not unless it was meant sarcastically which I suppose I could head canon, I guess.

For me that's the frustrating thing with Shepard, trying to figure out the why which I both love and dislike.  There are cases when the why (or motivations behind behavior and comments) is a bit more difficult and frustrating.  Sorry for the intrusion and the rant.  I just wanted to share and agree.  Hope I didn't offend.

EDIT: Skipped words and made more sensible.

Modifié par Village Idiot, 13 avril 2012 - 12:10 .

[Wulfram]

My latest Shepard, Elizabeth was the first one where I really thought the flirting made sense for her. Perhaps it helped that I knew it was ahead and could prepare some mental justification - it was a game, and she was going to win.

She always wins

[sagefic]

Lianna sFfalenn wrote...



"I am in a dress. I have gel in my hair, I haven't slept all night, I'm starved, and I'm armed. Don't mess with me!"

This is so awesome. I adore that movie, and not just because I will watching anything with Sandra Bullock in it.

Well, okay, yeah. that IS the reason. 

One does have to wonder where you conceal a weapon in that dress. I did so wonder with Hock's party.



Where DID she stash that sidearm?

Also, re: Vega's flirting: I totally just imagine COMPLETELY different lines coming out of my Shepard's mouth. actually, i remember having to alt/tab out of the game just to write some of them down, because the entire fight scene made me want to re-work everything that shepard said.

Modifié par sagequeen, 13 avril 2012 - 02:53 .

[raziel1980]

bettak wrote...

raziel1980 wrote...

 Wow...what alot of intersting character stories here.  You know as much as I talk about my main femshep Allison, i don't think i ever did character bio of her background story. Well, i suppose it is time I do that now. This is her pre-ME 1 history.

 Her full name is Allison Gunn - Shepard, she was earthborn kid born in Vancouver, Canada...has no surviving family as she moved aroudn quite abit from orphanage to orphanage until she met one Mr. and Mrs. John Shepard. it seems they saw on the streets one day running around with the wrong crowds getting into fights with various other gangs and factions( some of them alien) and they saw woman who had the potential to become something more than what she learned or been taught through a life of only living on the streets. Her adopted parents the Shepards would take Allison into their home where she was taught what meant to be a part of family and in this moemnt it was first time in her life, Allison had ever felt loved or even wanted but it seemed as if Allison also had another secret for which noone knew about.
                                         She would enter the Alliance at early age of 17, she was really smart in schooling... finished at the top of class graduating from High school at age 16. Her instructors always marveled at her above average combat ability but what really struck them as odd was above average biotic ability. The more strenous the training trainign she went through the stronger it seemed her powers became. She did however like the ability to use powers such as singularity n stasis and that combined with her strong combat know how and expert shooting ability at medium to close range with shotguns and assault rifles. She became one of the first true 'Vanguards' in the Alliance.
                                                  Allison's life in the military was one with incrdeible highs as she would impress all of her superior officers and squadmates. The would marvel at her natural leadership ability and natural grit and guts as well that undeniable force of will she possesed. It was this same force that allowed her to survive the ambush at Akuze an event that would shape the rest of her history and life. She however also had grown abit of a mean-streak...her personality change could only be attributed to her guilt for being the only member of team to survive. It was also this mission that led into her introduction to the N7 program, a program where only the best of the best and toughest , strongest, most capable soldiers in the Alliance Military would survive. Allison proved herself to be an N7 and more...as she quickly rose in rank and at age 28, she became Commander Allison G. Shepard of the SSV.



That's the prologue of Allison's story... 

great story:wub:. I want more!

Thanks ... I will see what I can do...if not here...then definetely on femshep.com.

@SR : thanks, I'm sure she would like that...or box you in the nose, claiming your too soft and you need to shape...atleast the 'Renegon' Allison G. Shepard would... 

[Ashoken]

My husband commented, after listening to James and Javik converse in the kitchen, that James is a frat boy. I said, on the outside, sure, but inside he's just a little boy acting out. This is how Asche sees him. Evie thinks he's just like all the guys she grew up and tends to be alot more harsh with him.

The flirting, in general, never bothered me.

Asche only saw:


Evie drew her gun on folks and hung out with Krogan.