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[legbamel]

Ottemis wrote...

Chugster wrote...
ok i know i may be flamed for this, but does anyone think some of these beautiful texmodded Sheps are too good looking to be professional soldiers?

IMO Barbie Shepard looks a bit out of place in the ME universe.....they do look great though

No, Shepard looks how she looks, is who she is. Nobody stopped her from becoming a soldier for being pretty or ugly, and that's aside from that being a completely subjective thing. Nobody picked her to be the savior of the galaxy, she just rose to the occasion again and again.

The beauty of Femshep is that she can be all these faces realisticly, because appearance doesn't and SHOULD mean nothing.

And because it fits the subject matter, here's something awesome.
*salutes Sage

My only quibble with this is that some people have such terribly young-looking Shepards.  She's not that young!  She's 29 at the start of ME1.  Even with two years off for dead behavior and a fair amount of rejuvination in the med bay she's got some wear and tear on her face.  I don't really see her spending time on chemical peels and facials.

I would find Airbrushed Shep really distracting as a player.  Can she be gorgeous?  Sure.  But she can also be an utterly ordinary-looking woman (particularly in ME1 with that forehead and swan neck).  Everybody wants her because she's Shep: she's just that awesome. 

[Ottemis]

legbamel wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

Chugster wrote...

ok i know i may be flamed for this, but does anyone think some of these beautiful texmodded Sheps are too good looking to be professional soldiers?

IMO Barbie Shepard looks a bit out of place in the ME universe.....they do look great though

No, Shepard looks how she looks, is who she is. Nobody stopped her from becoming a soldier for being pretty or ugly, and that's aside from that being a completely subjective thing. Nobody picked her to be the savior of the galaxy, she just rose to the occasion again and again.

The beauty of Femshep is that she can be all these faces realisticly, because appearance doesn't and SHOULD mean nothing.

And because it fits the subject matter, here's something awesome. *salutes Sage

My only quibble with this is that some people have such terribly young-looking Shepards.  She's not that young!  She's 29 at the start of ME1.  Even with two years off for dead behavior and a fair amount of rejuvination in the med bay she's got some wear and tear on her face.  I don't really see her spending time on chemical peels and facials.

I would find Airbrushed Shep really distracting as a player.  Can she be gorgeous?  Sure.  But she can also be an utterly ordinary-looking woman (particularly in ME1 with that forehead and swan neck).  Everybody wants her because she's Shep: she's just that awesome.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

I'm not gonna touch the whole age-discussion again aside from saying that how old someone looks can differ from their actual age by 10 years easily in some cases. Unlikely yes, unrealistic no. And again, this is in the future, what's true now is not nessecarily true then, and I mean that in a positive sense. Especially seeing humans live longer in the ME universe.

On a sidenote, I'm extremely allergic to the therm "Barbie Shepard".
Has everything to do with blonde voted default shep being branded unrealisic and called 'barbie', I don't happen to be blonde myself at all, either. It makes me want to strangle furry things. <--- Not a positive thing, no.

Modifié par Ottemis, 14 avril 2012 - 10:31 .

[Tup3x]

Looks do not tell anything about what person is capable of. If person looks good it doesn't mean that he/she couldn't be capable soldier.

And about make up, I'd be surprised if there wasn't make up improvements in the future. Heck, they drive flying cars. I like to keep it somewhat subtle (nor red lipsticks or stuff like that) on my Shep, though.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 14 avril 2012 - 10:33 .

[Wulfram]

I tended to reason that my Sole Survivor Shepard starting wearing more make up after Akuze, as a way of not looking quite so much like death warmed up. Then she decided she liked it, and had enough of a reputation as a badass now that she didn't really need to conform to expectations.

The "is enough of a badass to wear whatever the hell they want" applies to all Sheps of course.

[razviolet]

Because I can here are my Femsheps.

Renegade/Cranky Engineer


Paragade/headshot-Infiltrator


There is nothing wrong with a good looking femshep and I have seen plenty polar opposite ones. Some people make it a point to make her as ugly as possibly by shaving nearly her hair and setting the facial structures all crazy. It's a pick your poison situation really. I find it really hard to make a decent looking femshep and the ones above developed over several already tweaked ME2 imports. I personally try to minimize the makeup to make her soldier status more 'realistic'. Except for my headcannon Renegade of course who simply no longer cares what the mass populous thinks of her and thus dyed her hair and changed her eye color.

Modifié par razviolet, 14 avril 2012 - 10:39 .

[sagefic]

Chugster wrote...

dont get me wrong, im not saying Shep should be ugly but there is a limit, not sure when Shep manages to keep that flawless makeup from smudging and stuff

Sexy is good but should Shep really look like she belongs on a catwalk instead of a battlefield?

the beauty of a CC, right there. Shep can look like whatever you want.

considering that Sheploo wears the face of an underwear model, i think femshep can look like whatever. Jen Hale's voice will always keep her from appearing too girly or young, in my mind. That voice is not the voice of some naive young innocent thing, no matter how pretty the mouth it comes out of.

[Tup3x]

If 29 years old person has to look old then, I don't really know what to say.

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Tup3xi wrote...

Looks do not tell anything about what person is capable of. If person looks good it doesn't mean that he/she couldn't be capable soldier.

Modern day soldiers aren't likely to wear any bit of makeup, unless you want to count chapstick. I can see why it harder for some players to accept a Femshep with a more glamorous look.

Well, there's hardly enough time do anything when you wake up (basic training that is). I had hardly time to pee (no kidding...) so there's no way in hell anyone has time to slap chemicals on in that time, unless you can do it in few seconds (I have no idea how long it takes to put full "war paint" on). Shepard's situation seems rather slow paced, so I don't think time is issue.

If person can't accept that "glamorous look", well, they don't have to. They can pick what ever they want. Make up doesn't make the person any less capable or what ever is the reason why they find it hard to accept.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 14 avril 2012 - 10:46 .

[Ottemis]

I've personally done 13+ facial texmods for femshep. And they add eyeshadow and things like freckles or moles.
No extravagant lipcolors, you rarely see those. So honestly, I don't know, I don't see how they'd be so extremely dolled up for having a texmod that basically adds a variety of skin-blemishes in most cases.

Also, the eyeshadow serves a purpose, atleast in ME3, masking the clipping issues with the eyelids.

Modifié par Ottemis, 14 avril 2012 - 10:52 .

[Tup3x]

Ottemis wrote...

I've personally done 13+ facial texmods for femshep. And they add eyeshadow and things like freckles or moles.
No extravagant lipcolors, you rarely see those. So honestly, I don't know, I don't see how they'd be so extremely dolled up for having a texmod that basically adds a variety of skin-blemishes in most cases.

I'd actually too like to hear what makes Shepard look like doll or what is considered doll.

[Chugster]

2leggywillow wrote...

  She also got a commendation for bravery after tackling and disarming a man who was holding them at gunpoint in Iraq.

yes she is very pretty, but im 100% sure that she didnt have any makeup on when she disarmed that iraqi

I just think the 'flawless' look that some of these mods have looks out of place....there is no such thing as flawless on the battlefield...most of my Sheps have lipstick and eyeshadow, but to me. some of these new textures look too good, too perfect...airbrushed like a magazine cover

Oh and im not telling anyone what to do, just airing an opinion

Modifié par Chugster, 14 avril 2012 - 10:59 .

[nitefyre410]

Looks have nothing to do with combat ability and whats wrong with  Shepard wanting to pretty herself up  and look you know... NICE  for once instead being covered in husk goo, Brute sloop, and Banshee spit.  

Her and  Ashley  dream R&R would most likely be a  full spa treatment surround by nothing but Kaidens, Thanes, Garrus's and Jacobs - shirtless.  

Honestly the BSN as whole comes of as immature alot times because ALL  alot of us tend take about its, Sex, Sex appeal and boobs. Someone is always pointing it out...

Like the EDI  ****** - I would not have noticed unless some pointed it...

Modifié par nitefyre410, 14 avril 2012 - 11:07 .

[AtlasMickey]

Ottemis wrote...

Some EDI Femshep love then. AtlasMickey, beautiful sentiment that, I quite agree.

<3

I love how your pictures come out so rich in color. Do you Photoshop them or is that how they look for you?

2leggywillow wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

Because EDI was born in the shadows on the Moon, she reminds me very much of the book "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Robert A. Heinlein, the book he considers his best work, and the most moving story about AI I've ever seen, which is why I could never pick the Destroy ending.

We're starting to get a lot of hints from the developers than EDI can survive the Destroy ending.  We'll learn more this summer hopefully, but it looks like the devs are leaning towards the idea of "Star Kid was lying out of a sense of self-preservation."

That would be interesting, but I played through both Control and Destory endings yesterday (it's been many weeks for me since I chose Synthesis and came to terms with it) just to see how they would play out and what my emotional reaction would be. I didn't realize how pleased I would be with Control, because EDI is the second squad mate to walk out of the Normandy aftier Liara, my LI. Destroy then left me with a sick empty feeling, for Liara walked out just as she did, followed by Javik, someone who declared that he would commit suicide after the Reaper threat ended. Just wrong. The Red fiery energy sweeping over everything, in comparison to the more benign-looking Blue and Green, also seemed particularly vengeful, angry, and wasteful, like something someone would have to apologize for after being in a drunken rage. The Reaper's also seemed to be in pain, didn't they? I wonder what kind of pain the Geth felt… and EDI. If they are going to clarify the ending and keep their artisitic integrity, they should show what the Geth and EDI look like immolated by that electric fire. It sounds wrenching and tasteless, but many renegade actions in the game are. We'll see what they do, I guess.



Just a couple of Synthesis cheerleaders. 

Modifié par AtlasMickey, 14 avril 2012 - 11:26 .

[Captain Crash]

Popping through, saw this!  The colours!!!   

[AtlasMickey]

2leggywillow wrote...

I really liked reading about Katrina Hodge.  She's a soldier who was nicknamed "Combat Barbie" and also won the Miss England competition in 2009 (doing rifle drills for the talent portion, I believe).  She also got a commendation for bravery after tackling and disarming a man who was holding them at gunpoint in Iraq.



So no, professional soldiers can be beautiful and girly and done-up if they so choose to be.

ETA:  She specifically entered the Miss England pageant to try and break precisely this stereotype about women in the military.

What a great story. Some of my femsheps precisely intend to break stereotypes, too, like Jill, my blonde makeup-y engineer who only plays on insanity. I made her around the time of the anti-blonde sentiment during the Facebook vote. Here she is battling, of all people, EDI, lol.



Oh yeah, and my mother's maiden name is Hodge! Don't see that name around much at all.

Modifié par AtlasMickey, 14 avril 2012 - 11:23 .

[JECW]

Chugster wrote...

ok i know i may be flamed for this, but does anyone think some of these beautiful texmodded Sheps are too good looking to be professional soldiers?

IMO Barbie Shepard looks a bit out of place in the ME universe.....they do look great though

Not at all.
I live on a military base and I see women who wear makeup all the time. There is no such thing as being to good looking to be a soldier. You can find attractive men and women on any military base.

[meonlyred]

In the Fifth element, Leeloo puts a device to her face and suddenly perfect makeup. And it not like right now we have makeup that will stay on for eight hours without smearing or the fact we have permanent makeup.

[MizzNaaa]

Chugster wrote...

ok i know i may be flamed for this, but does anyone think some of these beautiful texmodded Sheps are too good looking to be professional soldiers?

IMO Barbie Shepard looks a bit out of place in the ME universe.....they do look great though

 

Modifié par MizzNaaa, 14 avril 2012 - 11:41 .

[sagefic]

meonlyred wrote...

In the Fifth element, Leeloo puts a device to her face and suddenly perfect makeup. And it not like right now we have makeup that will stay on for eight hours without smearing or the fact we have permanent makeup.

Exactly. And even if it takes a while, it's not like she's the only one wearing improbable stuff. Given the ME trend, femshep is the most sensible one on the ship



Morning Makeup by rk87

[nitefyre410]

sagequeen wrote...

meonlyred wrote...

In the Fifth element, Leeloo puts a device to her face and suddenly perfect makeup. And it not like right now we have makeup that will stay on for eight hours without smearing or the fact we have permanent makeup.

Exactly. And even if it takes a while, it's not like she's the only one wearing improbable stuff. Given the ME trend, femshep is the most sensible one on the ship



Morning Makeup by rk87

  

Garrus:  Is not mark up, its clan markings.
Shepard: Uh huh.
Garrus:  seriously! 
Shepard: Keep telling yourself that. 

[mellifera]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

The Engineer omni-blade melee always reminded me of a Sailor Moon move. Nice shots, Gilsa.

I love the engineer melee. It's not quite an omni-blade, it's like a flaming omni-tool/omni-blade hybrid slap. 

Modifié par yukidama, 15 avril 2012 - 12:31 .

[thompsmt]

A question for everyone, here.

Do you see a female human MP character similar to any of your FemSheps?

[SaturnRing]

Chugster wrote...

ok i know i may be flamed for this, but does anyone think some of these beautiful texmodded Sheps are too good looking to be professional soldiers?

IMO Barbie Shepard looks a bit out of place in the ME universe.....they do look great though

Make up will probably be more accepted in the future; by 2154 it'll be like putting undies on - as long as you get the job done and it's not excessive.