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[Fraevar]

ELE08 wrote...

"Welcome aboard, Dr T'Soni"

Liara: "...sorry, I was lost in your eyes..."

[crew files out quietly] :innocent:

EDIT: Whoops - ToP - Well have a new Lia shot w/updated textures. Working on some ME1/2/3 comparison shots as we speak.

Modifié par Delerius_Jedi, 04 mai 2012 - 11:03 .

[ELE08]

Delerius_Jedi wrote...

ELE08 wrote...

snip

"Welcome aboard, Dr T'Soni"

Liara: "...sorry, I was lost in your eyes..."

[crew files out quietly] :innocent:

EDIT: Whoops - ToP - Well have a new Lia shot w/updated textures. Working on some ME1/2/3 comparison shots as we speak.

snip

Oh hai, Lia.

It was more like this:



...

And thank you for the lovely comments
I think I'll post the new textures once I clean them up a bit. Unlike my others, they are basically nicer versions of the regular game textures (ie no heavy makeup.)

Modifié par ELE08, 04 mai 2012 - 12:31 .

[sagefic]

Aipex, I LOVE that retexture. it's lovely.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Up until yesterday I'd only made one femshep: Helen, who I've posted a few pics of during the last few days:

http://cloud.steampo...3F68978A388EDB/

The reason for this is not that I don't like playing as a woman/romancing men. In the Dragon Age games I've played as several different female characters romancing Alastair, Zevran and even that crazy terrorist Anders. It wasn't that i don't like Jennifer Hale's voice acting either. I think she does a fine job. The reason was that I just don't like the potential LI options for Femshep beyond Liara.

I found Kaidan to be pretty dull, only to run straight into the immense wall of boring that was Jacob Taylor. Thane was a far more interesting character but not being a religious man I just couldn't see myself enjoying a romance with him. Garrus should've had potential but I don't know... In my mind he just seems to be a great friend more than a lover.

Anyway as I'm not far from finishing ME3 with my 90%+ paragon Helen Shepard and I've really enjoyed it, I decided that despite my romance reservations I really should do another Femshep runthrough of the whole trilogy.

With all that in mind, last night I created Sam Shepard (Yes I know there's a male actor with that name but it's Sam for Samantha not Samuel). She'll be a paragade who'll make paragon descisions when it comes to galaxy-shaping events and also with regard to her friends, but will give short shrift to criminals, politicians and corporate lackeys. I still haven't decided what she's going to do romance-wise though.

http://cloud.steampo...6A7BFC32426EC6/

http://cloud.steampo...DD8888A14A7A2F/

http://cloud.steampo...9739E0CA2F3FFA/

http://cloud.steampo...194A532867A697/

Modifié par YourFunnyUncle, 04 mai 2012 - 12:47 .

[AtlasMickey]

I love my new visor! I never used it before because it looked bulky and I wanted to see June's eyes, but it looked pretty cool on some other femsheps and it gives a power damage and recharge bonus, which as a light-weight infiltrator is right up my alley.




I prefer it over the old visor, which gave a shield bonus. Plus EDI shouldn't be allowed to have a visor that's cooler than Shepard's. Now June can stare EDI down in a smexy techno-babe standoff.

Modifié par AtlasMickey, 04 mai 2012 - 12:53 .

[Wulfram]

The visor looks pretty cool. Though I think it makes Shepard seem a bit closed off and cool, since it covers the eyes so thoroughly. Which is appropriate for some sheps.



(Just need to remember to take it for Liara's goodbye)

Modifié par Wulfram, 04 mai 2012 - 01:11 .

[ELE08]

Shameless self-promotion in-coming.

New texmods posted. In addition to a texture improvement project, it's partly a continuity project to maintain consistent visual quality through all 3 games.

Covers ME1-3.
HD Face Texture
HD Eyes
Natural Eyelashes

[SaturnRing]

YourFunnyUncle wrote...

Up until yesterday I'd only made one femshep: Helen, who I've posted a few pics of during the last few days:

- machiavellian snip -

The reason for this is not that I don't like playing as a woman/romancing men. In the Dragon Age games I've played as several different female characters romancing Alastair, Zevran and even that crazy terrorist Anders. It wasn't that i don't like Jennifer Hale's voice acting either. I think she does a fine job. The reason was that I just don't like the potential LI options for Femshep beyond Liara.

I found Kaidan to be pretty dull, only to run straight into the immense wall of boring that was Jacob Taylor. Thane was a far more interesting character but not being a religious man I just couldn't see myself enjoying a romance with him. Garrus should've had potential but I don't know... In my mind he just seems to be a great friend more than a lover.

Anyway as I'm not far from finishing ME3 with my 90%+ paragon Helen Shepard and I've really enjoyed it, I decided that despite my romance reservations I really should do another Femshep runthrough of the whole trilogy.

With all that in mind, last night I created Sam Shepard (Yes I know there's a male actor with that name but it's Sam for Samantha not Samuel). She'll be a paragade who'll make paragon descisions when it comes to galaxy-shaping events and also with regard to her friends, but will give short shrift to criminals, politicians and corporate lackeys. I still haven't decided what she's going to do romance-wise though.

It's funny that you mention that. My femshep has the same problem - although my reasons are somewhat different. I do face a similar problem with Garrus; he is such a good friend that i have trouble seeing him as a lover. Jacob like eloquently said Samara, gives me too much of an impression of restlessness, and does need to find out who he really is. He is a kind heart but is too conflicted. Him joining Cerberus is the perfect example of the need  - for him - to find his bearings. I hate to admit that his relationship with the Cerberus scientist(sorry i forgot her name) in ME3 goes along with Samara's perception of him. With *Kaidan and *Thane an urgent desire to get over their respective  past initially sparks their desire for Shepard. Although they do truly love her, their lack of interest in Shepard's own past reinforce that feeling; specially after they both mention former loves/wives - very selfish of me. Liara,  Ashley and Miranda come with no baggage from a romantic standpoint - so to speak. Jacqueline does but it makes gaining her love/trust feel more challenging and all the more gratifying. The only problem is that she's
 not having it...

*These are my own feelings and perception of them and NOT who they really are.

Modifié par SaturnRing, 04 mai 2012 - 02:13 .

[SaturnRing]

AtlasMickey wrote...

I love my new visor! I never used it before because it looked bulky and I wanted to see June's eyes, but it looked pretty cool on some other femsheps and it gives a power damage and recharge bonus, which as a light-weight infiltrator is right up my alley.




I prefer it over the old visor, which gave a shield bonus. Plus EDI shouldn't be allowed to have a visor that's cooler than Shepard's. Now June can stare EDI down in a smexy techno-babe standoff.

It does look really cool on her.

[sagefic]

^ Sort of offtopic, but I'd have to disagree with lumping Kaidan/Thane's motivations as being the same or even similar for them falling for Shepard.

I do think they are the more self-contained of the LIs for femshep. Also they are the ones that are older (not sure about JAcob's age, but they're older than Garrus and, though not in years, liara, liara seems younger). They are also the ones that give me the distinct impression of being physically attracted to shepard more than the others. (kaidan especially).

but i see thane as someone who *thinks* he's made peace with everything, but then finds he hasn't because at the end of his life, he's got someone worth going on for. he had a wife whom he cared for, but thought he lost everything good. now he has a chance to have good things again.

kaidan, on the other hand, doesn't ever have that kind of connection with anyone. he makes it pretty clear that he and rahna were never lovers. she's just a girl that he had a crush on. i take his story as less of an indication about his love life as his life generally. she's sort of the moment he realized that even among biotics, even among 'his own kind' he's kind of a freak in terms of how strong his biotics are. i see him as someone who keeps people at arm's length because he's unable to think of himself as being like other people. thane, on the other hand, has this philosophy that allows him to easily move between his killer instincts and his personal life. kaidan has no similar ability to do that. shepard is the first time kaidan's actually intrigued enough to let someone get close. thane, on the other hand, has been close to people before, he just thought that ship had sailed.

okay, anyhow, slightly random, but there you go.

relating it all to femshep, i think there are some really excellent moments in the romances, some more than others, but it does sort of depend on your shepard which one seems to fit. certain shep+LIs just don't have chemistry together, after all.

Modifié par sagequeen, 04 mai 2012 - 02:18 .

[ADLegend21]

LadyAly wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Anyone check out Guns and Poems??

I just did and it was a emotional mix - love it <3 You are a talented writer !

Thank you!

I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[YourFunnyUncle]

SaturnRing wrote...

It's funny that you mention that. My femshep has the same problem - although my reasons are somewhat different. I do face a similar problem with Garrus; he is such a good friend that i have trouble seeing him as a lover. Jacob like eloquently said Samara, gives me too much of an impression of restlessness, and does need to find out who he really is. He is a kind heart but is too conflicted. Him joining Cerberus is the perfect example of the need  - for him - to find his bearings. I hate to admit that his relationship with the Cerberus scientist(sorry i forgot her name) in ME3 goes along with Samara's perception of him. With Kaidan and Thane an urgent desire to get over their respective  past initially sparks their desire for Shepard. Although they do truly love her, their lack of interest in Shepard's own past reinforce that feeling; specially after they both mention former loves/wives - very selfish of me. Ashley and Miranda come with no baggage from a romantic standpoint - so to speak. Jacqueline does but it makes gaining her love/trust feel more challenging and all the more gratifying. The only problem is that they're not having it...

You make some good points. I do agree about the nature of Jacob's character when you see what he has done, although I'd argue that it seems in ME3 that maybe he has found a calling. As I said, though, I just found his story uninspiring, and of course the cringeworthy nature of the "chatting up" dialogue with Shepard has been noted many times.

I see what you mean about Kaidan and Thane's pasts overwhelming the relationship, but I think you could make similar case for Ashley and Miranda. They may not have prior romantic entanglements but their families loom very large over everything they do.

Anyway I still haven't decided what direction Sam is going to take. I think I'll leave it up to the point where Kaidan and Liara start asking about each other and make a snap descision...

[SaturnRing]

Well, my fault as i tend to see Kaidan as the virgin and untouched version of Thane. Forgive me...

[ADLegend21]

Well said Sage. No two romances are the same and they all have their appeals even if the ME team chose to forget one and to utterly destroy another.

[YourFunnyUncle]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Well said Sage. No two romances are the same and they all have their appeals even if the ME team chose to forget one and to utterly destroy another.

Don't get me wrong. I would never say that the other romances couldn't be meaningful to other people. I know that we are all different and have different tastes, and I do feel sorry for those whose favourite LI's were given short shrift in ME3. I was just speaking from a personal perspective.

[draken-heart]

odd question here, but how many fem!Shep players here role-played their fem!Sheps as having been in the closet before the game?

[SaturnRing]

YourFunnyUncle wrote...


You make some good points. I do agree about the nature of Jacob's character when you see what he has done, although I'd argue that it seems in ME3 that maybe he has found a calling. As I said, though, I just found his story uninspiring, and of course the cringeworthy nature of the "chatting up" dialogue with Shepard has been noted many times.

I see what you mean about Kaidan and Thane's pasts overwhelming the relationship, but I think you could make similar case for Ashley and Miranda. They may not have prior romantic entanglements but their families loom very large over everything they do.

Haha i still cringe every time i go talk to Jacob in ME2. But I find conversations with him very interesting; i always find myself walking on eggs because he is such an unknown - specially in the beginning - and can become quite stiff after certain remarks. I admit that unintentionally initiating a romance is part of the reason i pay very special care to what my femshep say.
Kaidan/Thane do seem more diplomatic even when femshep goes renegade on them; while Ash/Miranda will spit venom right back at Shepard - in a sort of cliche. Then it raises that idea of conquest that i don't like so much...i think they found the right balance as far as Jack is concerned.   

[YourFunnyUncle]

draken-heart wrote...

odd question here, but how many fem!Shep players here role-played their fem!Sheps as having been in the closet before the game?

Are you implying here that a femshep relationship with Liara is lesbian? I'm not sure that you really can. It's a sexually viable relationship with a member of a monogendered alien species that happens to look quite human and as such I don't think that it really counts as full-on lesbian. Even if you accept the definition, do you think that the society of Mass Effect is one where gay people feel the need to be "in the closet"? I don't get the impression that it is.

Modifié par YourFunnyUncle, 04 mai 2012 - 03:14 .

[KyreneZA]

Dunno if these have been posted yet (obviously and sadly no Thane/Jacob ones):





by artist neehs on deviantART

Modifié par Kyrene, 04 mai 2012 - 03:27 .

[Ottemis]

YourFunnyUncle wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

odd question here, but how many fem!Shep players here role-played their fem!Sheps as having been in the closet before the game?

Are you implying here that a femshep relationship with Liara is lesbian? I'm not sure that you really can. It's a sexually viable relationship with a member of a monogendered alien species that happens to look quite human and as such I don't think that it really counts as full-on lesbian. Even if you accept the definition, do you think that the society of Mass Effect is one where gay people feel the need to be "in the closet"? I don't get the impression that it is.

The difficulty in it is that a hetero femshep from our perspective would view Liara as a female, whether or not she's viewed or considered to be a female setting-wise.
In the setting however, Femshep perspective on this is much different from our own having been in contact with the race and the mono-gendered concept in therms of sexual partners.

I think this is a hard one to 'roleplay', purely because Shepards perspective doesn't nessecarily entail shifting sides or going bi, while from our own, that's exactly what it means. Would have made this easier if Asari had no breasts, for instance, but as is their bodies are the same as human females.
WE don't know any better.

Personally I referr to Liara as female knowing that she's theoreticly not. It's hard to get around her physical appearance. Also Liara purely not having 'certain tools', bar the whole mindmelding which is a completely foreign concept anyways, would make her a non-option for some of my hetero femsheps.

Aside from physical attraction to the opposite gender, there's personality, but honestly, Liara is extremely feminine. They didn't make the monogendered concept very easy for us in her case. Now her father, yes, but Matriarch Aethyta isn't a romance option =)

Modifié par Ottemis, 04 mai 2012 - 03:37 .

[SaturnRing]

Kyrene wrote...

Dunno if these have been posted yet (obviously and sadly no Thane/Jacob ones):





by artist neehs on deviantart

First time i seen them.

[SaturnRing]

Ottemis wrote...

The difficulty in it is that a hetero femshep from our perspective would view Liara as a female, whether or not she's viewed or considered to be a female setting-wise.
In the setting however, Femshep perspective on this is much different from our own having been in contact with the race and the mono-gendered concept in therms of sexual partners.

I think this is a hard one to 'roleplay', purely because Shepards perspective doesn't nessecarily entail shifting sides or going bi, while from our own, that's exactly what it means. Would have made this easier if Asari had no breasts, for instance, but as is their bodies are the same as human females.
WE don't know any better.

Pretty much. Technically it's not. But in my head it is. Not that it matter...

Modifié par SaturnRing, 04 mai 2012 - 03:32 .

[sagefic]

SaturnRing wrote...

Well, my fault as i tend to see Kaidan as the virgin and untouched version of Thane. Forgive me...

no need to apologize. just pointing out the difference in their characters as i see it. though given kaidan's line: "i'm not the kind of guy who does that sort of thing [get physical w/ rahna as a teenager], (slight laugh) well, not lightly anyway.' i always took it that he was not necessarily a virgin, but probably has very little experience all the same. also with the 'it's been a long time since i met a woman who...' line after the ilos scene. 'long time since i met' vs. 'i never met' hints to me he's in the 'yeah, been there, but could count the partners on one hand' category.

that's my read though.

and again, rather offtopic. have a femshep:



CATCH!

edit: omg, her boobs look giant in that picture.  didn't notice that before.

Modifié par sagequeen, 04 mai 2012 - 03:35 .

[SaturnRing]

Silly me; i meant virgin figuratively speaking. Sorry about that and the implications...

[sagefic]

SaturnRing wrote...

Silly me; i meant virgin figuratively speaking. Sorry about that and the implications...

gotcha. compared to thane, very likely. not that it matters. kaidan would still be awesome (like that should matter either way with any character). i just gather that's not the case with him, so i said something.



eh, don't mind me. I just spend WAY too much time combing over everything the characters say, trying to figure out what the writers didn't say from what they did say and i think it's warping my brain after all this time.

Modifié par sagequeen, 04 mai 2012 - 03:43 .