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Femshep in Mass Effect 3 Thread - EC SPOILERS ALLOWED.


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JamieCOTC

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*sigh* :crying:

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The control ending is quite dramatic and I took it for two of my Shepards. Two others took destroy. I've been waffling between destroy and synthesis for UJ.  Though I also love the new refusal ending, it only works if you think the Catalyst is trying to trick Shepard.  IMO anyway. And that's a perfectly sound choice to make in that case.  For UJ, she doesn't believe she's being fooled.  She just thinks the Catalyst is crazy.

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razviolet

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We can use EC spoilers now you say? :o

Some gut wrenching photos of Cora's last goodbye to Garrus.
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Her memories made immortal.
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And I'll promote Cora's video tribute one last time since it contains EC spoilers:wub:

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Oh, sweet!

Overall: The EC is a huge improvement over the previous endings. Answered a lot of the WTF-type of questions. The starkid came across as a lot less sinister and more of a AI construct. While I thought the Indoctrination Theory was a lot of fun and didn't really think it was what they intended, they definitely swept that under the rug. My first game I had wondered if Shepard was hallucinating because it was such a disconnect from the rest of the game. Now it flows better -- she comes across as more coherent. I'm greedy and wanted more out of the ending, to see an actual reunion happen, not just implied, but y'know, at least the last image of the LI is hopeful instead of weepy or whatever. I've seen lots of people say they like the ambiguity, that it leaves the reunion to their imagination so I guess Bioware found a nice middle ground.

To be honest, I had wanted what they gave us in the end of ME1. Big triumph, bad guys defeated, Shepard emerges as a hero and everyone starts planning for what-comes-next. I didn't really feel like a hero at the end of ME3. I really did not like being railroaded into self-sacrifice. It should be one of the options, but 3 out of 4? They really wanted to kill Shepard off, eh? I do think that they could have left some wiggle room for Shepard surviving in Synthesis with really high EMS. Reaper technology upgraded the geth and EDI. Shepard could have been upgraded into a different form, I guess. (There is an image of Kasumi and Keji face-to-face in one of the synthesis outcomes and I just thought that kind of scenario should be possible with Shepard appearing to the crew like that perhaps.)

Anyway, the game is now replayable without having to lean on head canon. I don't know if I want to buy their DLCs because it kind of seems pointless. I will be shallow and just say that unless it involves more content with the LI, I don't really care about stuff like helping Aria take back Omega or investigate more Reaper lore or whatever. (I had bought every single DLC before. I just feel somewhat burned this time around.) I'd definitely buy new armors though.

Here are my three gals. I'm very sastisfied with the way their respective stories ended, which fit their personalities well. Control ended up being my favorite because it was such a messy, difficult journey that Shepard actually ascended above all the pettiness to do some real good.

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^ My canon. Love her. Finished the job she started. Had 7k+ war assets so everything ended on a high note. Not really much more I can say. The collateral damage is unfortunate, but the Reapers had to go.

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^ Although Judith was created for exploring the Jacob romance in ME2, I decided to RP her as pro-Cerberus with a strong human bias (in order to fill in the blanks on why Wrex wasn't around, no rachni queen, etc). She went from being abandoned by the Alliance in ME2 to being burned by the Illusive Man and Jacob in ME3. None of the pro-Cerberus decisions paid off in ME3, which was disappointing. Everything was an uphill climb from there.

Wreav was bullheaded and war hungry. With the data gone, it was futile to work with the krogans. Legion had previously been sold to Cerberus so there was no connection to the geth, just yet another race gearing up to destroy another for survival so Judith had to pull the plug on the geth. Thessia got overwhelmed, another domino toppling over. And then there's humanity, beytrayed by the Illusive Man's lust for power. (You know it's bad when Javik is the one giving Shepard a pep talk.)

Choosing control was like watching a phoenix rise out of the ashes. Judith had struggled to get the races to work together, but now she had finally become the ultimate leader. No more oppression or being preyed upon, Judith was now there to defend the weak, to put an "end to the bickering of the many." Jennifer Hale's voiceover was so perfect. It really felt like this was Shepard's Story, not the galaxy's story. I definitely saw the parallel between leaving David behind on the
Overlord project to prevent future wars and Shepard sacrificing herself
in the same way. This was a very empowering game. Easily my favorite because it ended on such a strong note.

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^ She was all about giving people a chance at a future without limitations. She fully encouraged Joker and EDI's romance. She sided with the geth so they could have a chance to break free from their oppressors. Not my favorite game, but synthesis made sense. Didn't love the husks, but I can see how it would amuse the devs to leave it in. ;) It sucked leaving Garrus behind. She couldn't give him children, but she gave him a chance at immortality.

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Sarah hated cerberus with a passion, and having to work with them drove her up the wall.As a result violence was used  in the pursuit of the mission.A lot. Her memories are a bit foggy about the bits not involving Liara, though...Propably because of this:
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And what better way to interrupt binge drinking than sensless violence?

"Gonna take my gun? Really?"
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"Enjoying her work"
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Thats the same visor as in the ME3 pics.Why they turned it from that awesome orange design to the batman mask i don't understandImage IPB  And you can't get that shade of red in ME3 either Image IPB

But Sarah ain't all that bad...Here she is giving relationship advice to Joker after only a few drinks Image IPB
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Yeah -  I'm  went with Control for both my Shepards it just fits who they in the  end.   Kyra was not going pass the  burden on to someone else.. it started with her and it was going end with her.  

Poor Samantha ... now I have to writer the post mortem goodbye..

Thats is going to be hard.  :crying: 

I having all these feels and I don't know what to do. 

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@ razviolet: really really nice video und music   (I cried) ^^

@ Gilsa: awesome pics and nice description on your journeys with shepard

Modifié par Ravii, 04 juillet 2012 - 09:09 .


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Alice still took Destroy, although the Catalyst worked very hard to make both Control and Synthesis look appealing. Ultimately though, she still saw them as Reaper solutions coming from the same flawed reasoning that wound up destroying the civilization that created the Catalyst in the first place.

In other news, I've finally managed a fifth chapter for Returned! SO many things seemed to have been conspiring against me finishing this chapter...

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Five secrets about Jennifer:
  • Can do The Times crossword in under ten minutes.
  • Is allergic to dogs.
  • Has read À la recherche du temps perdu - in the original French.
  • Was 'Miss April' for the Girls of Alliance Academy 2174 charity calendar; her identity, if not her modesty, being concealed by the breather helmet she wore.
  • Her favourite film is Die Hard.


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nitefyre410

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Hey Razviolet do you mind if link you tribute video in the Control Ending Support thread.. we are trying to gather all the fan created tributes and fan art for the ending?

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Alright! Time to see what abload does to my pics. Struggled so hard to remember my schoolboy German, worked out one of the buttons was marked either "Do not resize" or "Dry clean only". Assumed the former made more sense :happy:

So, Nyalla overload time!

Nyalla flattering Liara in the hope of getting some. Didn't work.
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Nyalla with her big gun on Tuchanka. Feeling overawed by the even bigger gun directly overhead. Fortunately Femshep doesn't feel inadequate in the presence of large cylindrical objects, although she did have to fight the urge to reach out with both hands. :devil:
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Stopping the turians from ripping each other apart. Now now boys, angry infiltrator is here.
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Broshake with Wrex.
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Meeting up with her little lad, Grunt. Hasn't grown much, but he's more fun now
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With Liara and her computer thingy. Still fully clothed, sigh.
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Once more with Liara, fully armed and armoured and looking for bugs.
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CrazyGreggy

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And the rest of the overload!

Mourning Mordin, silly Salarian sacrifice.
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Not sure if indoctrinated or just stupid.
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Another accidental cuteness shot! Still think Kira's cuter :wub:
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Either it's a radio or she's cleaning out earwax. One or the other
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Nyalla with Reave up and a big big gun out. And shiny gogs.
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@CrazyGreggy: I almost expect Shepard to say on that mission, "Grunt, the objective is to find bugs, not get medals."

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CrazyGreggy

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Grunt's a good lad, just needs a bit of direction now and then :D

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Wait, can we talk about the EC endings now? Awesome.

I know this must ironic as I'm a supporter of the Synthesis ending, but Control just creeps me out, bot paragon and renegade. Maybe it's because I'm afraid that Shepard, or what is left of her or what she has turned into, will change into just another Catalyst in time. Other than that I don't have too many problems with it, though. Amazing performance by Hale, too.

Refusal isn't really an option for me either. Maybe I will choose it in a future playthrough with a Shepard that values "defiance to the end", but otherwise... no. I did like Shepard's little speech, though. And the Catalyst's menacing "SO BE IT" -- made me see him as more than just some kid who wanted to troll the galaxy.

I find the choice between Destroy and Synthesis very difficult to make. I want Shepard to live, but is her life worth more to me than the lifes of EDI and the Geth? Choosing Synthesis the first time I completed the EC didn't make it easier, as EDI's narration in the epilogue is simply amazing. The moment when she hugged Liara (my LI) and her face just... broke... manly tears, people. For me, as a fan of EDI (I won't lie), that was one of the highlights in the entire franchise. 

The EC's biggest objective was to give the players closure and I wasn't completely sure it would or even could succeed. Now that it is released, well, I can't speak for anybody else, but for me the EC was a triumph. I finally don't have to fear the ending, have to stop playing after the confrontation with TIM; I can go the Catalyst, I can make my choice and I can enjoy the ending.

Tup3xi wrote...

Another question: Five things others may not know about your Shepard(s).

Good question.

  • Berlitz enjoys children's shows. The more colorful and silly, the better.
  • When she was fifteen, she secretely got a navel piercing. If the piercer hadn't said she was too young, she would've gotten it... somewhere else.
  • She always keeps a secret stash of credit chits onder her matras, just in case..
  • When she was young, she thought Asari lived underwater.
  • She likes to trap farts under her bed sheets.
@ JamieCOTC: That was such a great scene. A bit clunky as to how the
Normandy could get there so fast and evacuate everyone, but the scene
between Shepard and her love interest... only a few words, but they were
all I needed to hear. 

@ Gilsa: Wow, I love those three pictures!
@ CrazyGreggie: Nyalla's beautiful. :wub:

I'm gonna work on the continuation of Berlitz' story now, so my next post will be a wall of text. You've been warned! :lol:

Modifié par Rikketik, 04 juillet 2012 - 10:11 .


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CrazyGreggy

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Hmm, 5 things people don't know about my Shepard. Guess I'll go with Kira, my fave.

1) She keeps a stash of chocolate under her bed and noms a bit when feeling down. Stash was obliterated after Thessia.

2) Has a tattoo of an ex's name somewhere out of public view. Liara wants her to get it removed so she doesn't feel like she's trespassing when, you know.....

3) Used to think Chaos was pronounced chowse. Still can't live that one down at family gatherings

4) Doesn't use toenail clippers. Rips the longer parts off by hand and tries to hit the bin from wherever she is in her cabin, then celebrates a direct hit. Finding the near misses in the dark usually involves swearing.

5) Privately wishes Aethyta had got Liara the pony instead of the commandos.

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JamieCOTC

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@ Gilsa - Agree w/ Ravii, wonderful pics on the choices and reasons behind each choice.

EC does give some nice flycam moments as well as some hard feels.

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"This can't be good." 

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femshep to the rescue!

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The Normandy landing scene does lack some logic, but for UJ, she would have ordered the evac. It was Liara after all.

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It's kind of blink and you miss it, but after the smile, Shep shows her true feelings. 

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The Normandy is safe. That's all that matters now.  Time to end it. 

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"I didn't think I had this much blood in my body." #sigh*

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And it came to pass that the organics, and the synthetics, and the universe itself merged into one.
The newly formed one acknowledged a name above all others.
And the one knew itself only as The Shepard.
All that could be known was known.
All that could be done had been done.
After eons upon eons The Shepard had reached the final stage of evolution.
And before the Shepard faded into oblivion it had one final task to perform.
One last mission.

And The Shepard said, "LET THERE BE LIGHT!"
And there was light –
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Apologies to Isaac Asimov for totally ripping off his amazing short story, “The Last Question
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Symbolically, synthesis works as Shepard sacrifices herself to bring peace to all. As for the choice itself, Shepard has played God with many of the choices she has made over the course of all three games. But that theme is no more aparent than with both the beauty and terror that is synthesis.

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Don't have any time to really answer the great questions or discuss the EC. I will leave you all with an EC Asche. When I get more time though... so much to comment on!

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CrazyGreggy

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Knew I'd forgotten something! The shot I wanted to post last week of Kira in the EC.

I got so many warm fuzzies from this

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I had a lot of thoughts (and feels) about the EC, so I'll probably do a more in-depth write-up later, now that we can talk about it here.

In the meantime, more Anja shots!

Cruisin' into London
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Biotic squad!
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OG crew basically (this was Anja's final squad in ME1 as well, so it seemed fitting)
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This shot is from before I fixed her eyes, so aughhh creepy eyelashes, but WHATEVER, I still like it.
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I still think that destroy is the way to go. It is regrettable that Geth and EDI will get destroyed by space magic but still. I do not think that anyone can make such a decision like the green one for others. Control option seems pointless when you can destroy them, it feels much safer.

But anyway, I really liked how EC fixed many stupidities and it did save the series in my opinion. Is it perfect? No but they did patch it up rather nicely with out changing the whole thing.

But back to ending... I felt sad and happy when I saw Garrus with the Shepard sign. It was obvious that they all cared about Shepard and that she did indeed have a family now after she lost everyone when she was a child. Shepard loved her team and they did love her, like brother who loves his sister.

Ashley and James were the ones that Tiia picked for the last mission and Ashley took the worst hit. It was sad to see the Normandy go but there really was no other option. She does not have love interest so I do not know how much different that situation would have been.

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Tup3xi wrote...

Another question: Five things others may not know about your Shepard(s).

Five thing huh? How about 3.
Her childhood nickname was Princess.
Her middle name is Marie.
She loves vintage rock music and movies.

*Takes deep breath*
Okay as most of you know I freaking hated the original ending. The EC did make it easier to swallow; it doesn’t fill all the plot holes in fact it raises a few new ones. Harby waiting until Shepard gets her injured squaddies to the Normandy, I’m looking at you. <_<

However, what it does give is a reason to actually want to play Zody Shepard again. Still can’t play Dakota/Penny because their LI dies/leaves her to knock up some ugly Cerberus ****. Thanks Bioware for up lifting Femshep all through the ME3 promotion only to knock her back down. Thanks. And to have the new flashbacks of the ones who died: Mordin, Thane, Legion, etc. seems like a slap in the fact. Oh now you remember Thane? Sorry, still a bit of salt in wound.<_<

Moving on: When I created Zody Shepard I had several specifically things I wanted for her. The main thing for her character is that she went through hell but in the end is rewarded for her pain. She is a colonist and sole survivor; she loses her family makes a new one with the Alliance and loses that one too. She is a Kaidanmancer so they lose each other, only to find each other, to lose each other again, to find each other, to lose again, etc. Basically, she can’t catch a break in any department in her life. It’s a rollercoaster of high ups and heartbreaking lows. Then she is thrown into the war with the Reapers. She doesn’t ask for the burden but she handles it with grace and skill. But what I wanted above all things was for Shepard to be rewarded for giving everything to the case.

Let me make this very clear, I did not want a Happily Ever After. No matter how you play, a lot of people have died in this war. There can be no happily ever after unless Shepard finds all the Dragon Balls and wishes everyone who died in the Reaper attack but to life. But I wanted MY Zody Shepard to find peace.

Still choose the Destroy ending because there is NO way Zody would ever choose the Synthesis or Control. Though Refusal is very tempting. I hate I can’t shoot the Starkid for ten minutes before I pick. (Totally didn’t accidently do that one… ahem) But it’s an awesome fourth choose and I have at least one Shepard who would pick that ending. Shepard’s speech to the Starkid had me giving Jennifer Hale a standing ovation. Probably her best work hands freaking down. My heart swelled with pride and shed a tear. Plus I love the idea that the next cycle got it perfectly right, our cycle was almost there but not quiet. That is worth sacrificing our cycle.

I thought the original goodbye scene in London had me sobbing, I was at the point of gross sobbing at the second goodbye scene with the Normandy. She orders him to leave her…. AGAIN!!

So final chooses:
Zody – Destroy
Dakota – Control
Penelope – Refusal
Faye – Destroy
Orra - Destroy

And after that, headcanoning the crap out of the story.

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Z. Shepard: "Why do I always end up carrying your ass?"
Garrus: "From what I hear..."
Z. Shepard: "Don't you dare finish that sentence Vakarian."

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She is not die :3

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Pew pew pew

As for my livestream for those who watch. I will start it soon. I was called into work today, but yay time and a half!!

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Finally got back to playing my Sentinel femshep.

God I missed Hale's deadpan delivery.
Also punting mooks with throw.

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 This picture Is awesome...  thats  needs to be said. 
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New Headcanon Ending! :D

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I hated the original endings because they were so disjointed an unexplained but EC brought the closure I was looking for. Hearing Admiral Hackett or Shepard herself narrate the ending and then the scene of her name being placed on the memorial wall brought the game full circle for me and the characters.  The flash backs of all the death's in ME3 were touching but I thought it was odd the squadie you left to die in ME1 on Vermire wasn't among them. The slide shows at the end were also very much appreciated to see the far reaching aftermath of Shep's decisions throught ME3.

Starbrat was still starbrat but managed to sound more like a half sentient VI that ran on nothing but cold calculations and wasn't just trying to troll Shepard. His arguments were more compelling and understandable in this way but it still felt like no matter what he was trying to push synthesis on Shep as hard as he possibly could. Even the control ending hints that synthesis should have been the way to go as Shep explains how she (the catalyst) now understands organics because she gave it her memories and influence. I don't view her as suddenly immortal though, it's merely a construct made from her memories and emotions but the real shep is dead. All she managed to do was change the catalyst's way of thinking by erasing the old one. I think of it as downloading a new program, one with moral restrictions and certain drives depending on your shep and it takes on the 'image' of that Shepard.

I still haven't seen synthesis as I haven't yet played a shep who would choose the option.


Vanessa chose Destroy as she knew the war was going to end one way or the other with dead reapers. She lives by ruthless calculus so while she regrets EDI and the Geth's deaths, she would perform Destroy all over again if it meant obliterating the reapers. She had to admit synthesis sounded like a good option for a moment, Starbrat had a compelling argument, but it sounded too much like a fairy tale and Vanessa's utter disgust for the reapers ran too deep.
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Garrus refuses to place her plaque on the wall because he knows his Shepard is out there waiting for him to drag her breathing aft out of London's rubble.
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Dressing conservatively, trying out a turtleneck...

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