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[razviolet]

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@SaturnRing: I never noticed the bottom of Miri's suit, or EDI's, until someone pointed it out:pinched:. I suppose being a chick makes me immune to such things. Guys do get a pretty bad bashing by the media to be macho just as girls are used as tools at the worst of times. Fortunately, while Miri and Allers fit the sex appeal stereotype, they do have redeeming qualities. In ME2 Miri made me roll my eyes, I sorely wanted to punt her out the air-lock for her arrogance, perfect genes, and what not. A bit of the same crossed my mind with Jack, but in ME3 they redeemed themselves to be characters. Miri's powerful drive to protect her sister and her leadership skills were a couple of the humanizing qualities from her and I enjoyed watching Jack turn her life around by becoming a teacher. Allers is one of the few reporters who presents stories that help Shepard instead of hinder, and when you talk to her it's clear she takes her job seriously and thinks carefully of the consequences of her words. Also, near the end, you can hear her speak about her own colony that was hit by the reapers:crying:. (There's nothing wrong with a little rambling ).

@SebAusFR:  "Even heroes had double-standards." - This is so true. I love Kyla's armor color for Rannoch too!

Ashoken wrote...
I fixed that for you. I can't take credit for the awesome Chiarra. I wish I could, but she's LadyAly's. 

Even if you didn't create the face, it's you who creates Chiarra's story .


@LadyAly: Most of the game was designed with maleshep in mind. Why do you think Femshep runs like a gorilla and sits with her legs open while in a dress? Though, I'm not complaining. Her gorilla-ness adds a certain charm.

I could play Garrus' romance/friendship scene on the citadel all day.<3

@Sinapus: Awesome flycam shots! 

If Edward (anime version) ever romanced Jacob I could imagine him frequently banging his head against the weapon assembly table. It would be nice if Bioware added a patch to change the dialogue in ME3, say, in the cruiser they escape in so shep can blow up on him there and get some answers...without butchered dialogue. 


How do you get flycam to work in ME2? 

Sinapus wrote...
"NOO!!! MY BOOZE!!!!" *sighs* "Okay, maybe I can save Joker..." 

Why is the rum gone! Thank you, now This stupid song is stuck in my head. Noooo.

Posing for Conrad.

"Jane, why is the Mako on fire, again?"


Random Mercy. I'm dragging my heels on the last bit of her game but I hope to have some pics from Priority Earth next time.

Modifié par razviolet, 30 juillet 2012 - 03:35 .

[SaturnRing]

@Ottemis and SebAusFR: I'm so looking forward to debating both of you on this. I have to head back to work. But i'll say this: I buy into the theory that the catalyst was created by the first species as some kind of galactic AI regulator. I'm surprised however that we all seem to dismiss the fact that he claims to be the creator(universe civilization). Why not take his words literally? From my perspective that is what makes it so difficult, for many of us, to accept. Why wouldn't that assertion be taken literally?

@razviolet: I attribute Miri and Jack arrogance to a defense mechanism born from a lack of nurturing/self esteem. Their LM to me open their eyes to the fact that Shepard and her crew value them as persons, regardless of their level of biotic skills. The change in their attitude is visible from that point on.I liked Jack from the beginning. She knew that Shepard like others in her past might just use her and then drop her. Yet she went along. Only in the end to open herself up again and be vulnerable again(mostly from a male Shep perspective).

Modifié par SaturnRing, 30 juillet 2012 - 04:05 .

[Ashoken]

SaturnRing wrote...

@Ottemis and SebAusFR: I'm so looking forward to debating both of you on this. I have to head back to work. But i'll say this: I buy into the theory that the catalyst was created by the first species as some kind of galactic AI regulator. I'm surprised however that we all seem to dismiss the fact that he claims to be the creator(universe civilization). Why not take his words literally? From my perspective that is what makes it so difficult, for many of us, to accept. Why wouldn't that assertion be taken literally?

When does the Catalyst make the claim that it created the universe and/or civilization? I don't remember watching this part, but my brain is fried.

Also, @razviolet, that Mako pix is fantastic!

[Hadeedak]

Just dropping in to note I haven't forgotten this thread. My boyfriend and his xbox showed up, so I've renewed my acquaintance with some of my original Sheps!

Which has been fun, especially having poor Robin, Shepard of endless tragedy (which was not COMPLETELY my intention) back. But I have fallen behind on computery things, including threads.



Sorry boss. I'll do better next time.

[SaturnRing]

Ashoken wrote...

When does the Catalyst make the claim that it created the universe and/or civilization? I don't remember watching this part, but my brain is fried.

Maybe mine is. I'll have to double check that tonight.

[Ravii]

SaturnRing wrote...

Ashoken wrote...

When does the Catalyst make the claim that it created the universe and/or civilization? I don't remember watching this part, but my brain is fried.

Maybe mine is. I'll have to double check that tonight.

That little brat never said that and he did not create the universe.

[Syrdeth]

So, I have a bit of a dilemma. I want to reply and comment on all the great Sheps I see, but then my posts would be mega-long and hardly anyone would read them. I could comment on a select few and make some happy and some not. Or I could comment on nobody and make no one happy.

*headdesk*

*headesk again*

I guess I need some advice on this. If you feel this is too off-topic, feel free to PM me.

Back on topic, way back about 200 pages ago, I posted a bio for Kendra Shepard, my Renegade. As far as I know, barely anyone read it. Probably shouldn't have posted it here. Anyways, I cleaned it up, added a few things, and posted it on my blog. So, it how has a permanent home. If anyone's interested in reading it,

Here you go.

Oh, and have a pic of Kendra in ME1, using some of ELE08's awesome mods as well as the Eyebrowfix v.1 from here.

Modifié par Syrdeth, 30 juillet 2012 - 04:27 .

[Ottemis]

Ravii wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

Ashoken wrote...

When does the Catalyst make the claim that it created the universe and/or civilization? I don't remember watching this part, but my brain is fried.

Maybe mine is. I'll have to double check that tonight.

That little brat never said that and he did not create the universe.

Afaik he never implied nor said that, not even before the EC. He says to have 'created' the Reapers, more info given with the EC where he says he gave them purpose, where they were created by his creators.
It's implied in programming him to 'solute' the synthetic threat to organics, his creators were reaped: much to their own dismay. Whatever the reapers were created for initially, he repurposed them.

Funnily the 'reaping' makes sense (atleast I think so), we think it gruesome, logically so, but the catalyst perceives it completely differently where their knowledge is preserved and even their organic signature, on some level.
That it's not to any standard of existance or a legacy we'd choose for ourselves is besides the point of him not having done anything outside of his initial purpose and programming. I'd think he creatively expanded upon it, just not in a way his creators had anticipated nor wanted. The devil's in the details, guys =P

Modifié par Ottemis, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:23 .

[Tup3x]

Well... It does make sense in certain way - if converting entire civilizations into twisted machines is equal to preserving their legacy. I somehow think that not may agree with it. It was a fault by the creators to let it think that way. It's and AI with clear logic programming errors. There's no way that it could be bug free creation.


I wonder why I haven't used photo albums before... Lets test it now then. I wonder how log it will take before bandwidth limit kicks in.

@LadyAly
Sniping scene, yay! It's definitely one of my fav moments in ME3.

@SaturnRing
Ei kestä!

Modifié par Tup3xi, 30 juillet 2012 - 07:01 .

[Ashoken]

Erin smirked her first smirk today. I'm so proud.

[draken-heart]

i recently reserved my copy of Darksiders 2, which is played in the role of the horseman of Death, and that got me thinking. Which horseman would Female Shepard be? i would say war or conquest.

Sorry if this was discussed.

[raziel1980]

Ashoken wrote...

Erin smirked her first smirk today. I'm so proud.

Awww...Erin looks cute as hell! 

@S.R. : Your welcome and about time you started plaing on the pc and posting pics of your own Sheps! 

Anyways...I took a slight( 1 day) break from Claire in ME 1 to bring Gabriella(Gabby) into ME 2... 

Here is Gabby's final ME 1 pic...


And now it's time to reawaken Gabriella Shepard...I took energy drain as her bonus power...since SOMEHOW after ME 1 infiltrators no longer know overload( these types of gameplay retcons REALLY annoy me).


Heading to Freedom's Progress...


First Renegade Interrupt...


Welcome to the 'New' Normandy Gabby!

[Sinapus]

razviolet wrote...
@Sinapus: Awesome flycam shots! 

If Edward (anime version) ever romanced Jacob I could imagine him frequently banging his head against the weapon assembly table. It would be nice if Bioware added a patch to change the dialogue in ME3, say, in the cruiser they escape in so shep can blow up on him there and get some answers...without butchered dialogue. 

Joy. Clone headcanon it is.

How do you get flycam to work in ME2? 

www.gametourists.com/2010/10/zomg-flycam-part-deux.html
www.gametourists.com/2010/10/mass-effect-flycam-hacks-part-2-ofpart.html

I followed Sagequeen's blog postings. There might be another article or two in there.

Edit: Ah yes, setting the Mako on fire. Never gets old.

Modifié par Sinapus, 31 juillet 2012 - 01:20 .

[SaturnRing]

Ottemis wrote...

Afaik he never implied nor said that, not even before the EC. He says to have 'created' the Reapers, more info given with the EC where he says he gave them purpose, where they were created by his creators.
It's implied in programming him to 'solute' the synthetic threat to organics, his creators were reaped: much to their own dismay. Whatever the reapers were created for initially, he repurposed them.

Funnily the 'reaping' makes sense (atleast I think so), we think it gruesome, logically so, but the catalyst perceives it completely differently where their knowledge is preserved and even their organic signature, on some level.
That it's not to any standard of existance or a legacy we'd choose for ourselves is besides the point of him not having done anything outside of his initial purpose and programming. I'd think he creatively expanded upon it, just not in a way his creators had anticipated nor wanted. The devil's in the details, guys =P

You guys are right. He never ever implied that. My brain must be fried.
What a mess though. Like Tup hinted at, programming an AI to prevent other AIs from waging war against organics. How can that possibily be a good idea. And the best thing that AI can come up with is fusing both as a solution for civilizations self preservation. 

At least Deirdre doesn't easily get scared. 
Are you trying to scare me, Spectre?


@raziel: I know ; it was about time. I'm still trying to get used to shooting/ducking with the mouse. And i get killed a lot. We finally get to see Gabby in ME2.

Modifié par SaturnRing, 31 juillet 2012 - 03:51 .

[SebAusFR]

Ottemis wrote...
Yes I think our view on the Catalyst is pretty much the same Seb =)

*Epic high-five!*

razviolet wrote...
@SebAusFR:  "Even heroes had double-standards." - This is so true. I love Kyla's armor color for Rannoch too!

Hope you liked the latest entry about Legion's sacrifice too? I'll write about the post-Rannoch Citadel visit soon.

razviolet wrote...
@SaturnRing: I never noticed the bottom of Miri's suit, or EDI's, until someone pointed it out[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]. I suppose being a chick makes me immune to such things. Guys do get a  pretty bad bashing by the media to be macho just as girls are used as  tools at the worst of times.

Wait, what, the bottom of Miranda's suit? I noticed EDI, but I don't remember anything about Miranda? 

Ottemis wrote...
Afaik he never implied nor said that, not even before the EC. He says to have 'created' the Reapers, more info  given with the EC where he says he gave them purpose, where they were  created by his creators. It's implied in programming him to 'solute' the synthetic threat to organics, his creators were reaped: much to their  own dismay. Whatever the reapers were created for initially, he repurposed them.

Funnily the 'reaping' makes sense (atleast I  think so), we think it gruesome, logically so, but the catalyst  perceives it completely differently where their knowledge is preserved  and even their organic signature, on some level. That it's not to any standard of existance or a legacy we'd choose for ourselves is besides  the point of him not having done anything outside of his initial purpose and programming. I'd think he creatively expanded upon it, just not in a way his creators had anticipated nor wanted. The devil's in the  details, guys =P

SaturnRing wrote...

You guys are right. He never ever implied that. My brain must be fried.

What a mess though. Like Tup hinted at, programming an AI to prevent other  AIs from waging war against organics. How can that possibily be a good idea. And the best thing that AI can come up with is fusing both as
a solution for civilizations self preservation.

Well it makes a bit more sense of using an AI to "solution" the organic/synthetic problem if you consider the Singularity. Within the context of a singularity achieved by machines, the Catalyst cannot achieve it because it cannot self-improve or act outside of the bounds of its programming. It has a vast autonomy to achieve its goal and it was given an immense power to do so, but it has not moved to a "higher level" like a self-improving machine could do, or moved outside of its primary mission. Technically, given enough time EDI could self-improve and become more powerful than the Catalyst! The Catalyst is there to avoid such a thing ever happening (it want to prevent the ME equivalent of this, which it appears to presume would be always hostile). So it is a "safe" kind of guardian AI, that will indiscriminately attack Organics and Synthetics if they continue going againts the solution.

Seen like that, it's not that stupid to use an AI to solve that problem. Its creator could also have reasonned that an AI would outlive them and could take as many times as it needed to solve their problem. Of course, they did not expect how it would eventually end... Not stupid, but definitely strange, to our human reasonning. But the people behind the Catalyst were not Humans... if there was indeed 20,000 cycles, multicellular life hadn't even evolved on Earth when the first cycle occured

Modifié par SebAusFR, 31 juillet 2012 - 04:26 .

[KurouTsubasa]

And I posted everything in the wrong window. Please ignore.

Modifié par KurouTsubasa, 31 juillet 2012 - 05:06 .

[Sinapus]

Darn, I missed whatever was posted into the wrong window...

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

Hi Fam Shepard Fan's,

yestarday i finish ME3 whit the EC,

i just made some screenshot of my little Anita Shepard ^.^







http://social.biowar...9368/219273.jpg

Modifié par FRANCESCO84Inn, 31 juillet 2012 - 06:27 .

[LadyAly]

@Sinapus Oh well yes - learning experience.

@SaturnRing Deirdre looks really pretty. About playing on a PC - I suppose if I would start to play on a console like XBox or others I would be pretty helpless and mess up:D

@Akari Tenshi How it comes that this pic is yours and posted from someone others ?

@SebAusFR and @Ottemis I pretty much agree with you both. So we are 3 with a similar view at the starbrat.
My take on the ME series is this = its not more or less then a technical fairytale in the future. In a fairytale ALL is possible - isn't it ? It has not to be logical.
I mean the classic fairytales are never logical. Who can live after bite in a poisoned apple ? Or Little Red Riding Hood - how you can live after get eaten by a wolf ?
Hopefully you get what I mean.

SebAusFR wrote...

Ottemis, very interesting post here! For
the records, I'd just like to clarify that I also accepted the ending
and thought that Shepard's sacrifice is very appropriate. I'm not
part of the "happy-ending-at-all-cost" folks, but I respect their right
to wish for one. I just feel an ending requiring a personnal sacrifice
by Shepard is more interesting than an happy for ever and after type of
ending [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

Heartily agree to exactly this - I don't need a sugar covered Disney ending. Happy End can be nice - but its not a must here. Respect is needed for other meaning and views, though.

Still the end felt rushed and had to much plotholes - the EC fixed a lot for me there.

@razviolet Mako on fire is classical epic:P 
Btw - Men Sheps running also like Gorillas *
@Hadeedak and @Syrdeth Hey - welcome back   Kendra looks amazing in ME1

@Tup3xi Yep Sniping Scene is one of the best scenes ever <3
Wonderful Shot with Tiia and Ash on the Citadel, btw

@Ashoken Erin smirking is so cute

@raziel1980 Gabrielle in ME2 is really a badass - right ?  Is she pure Renegade ? 

@FRANCESCO84Inn Anita is very pretty - any background of her ?

Have some Chiara for the record

Miranda and Chiara is still a sensitive thing ... No way she would give her data. But Chiara was very suprised about the plea of guilty ... and accepted the appologize from Miranda


She was thinking a lot of time to accept the invite for the meeting with Kaidan on the Citadel ... but ...
she went there.
First ... Damnit he want to talk about feelings ...
Second...<3 he accept my love to Thane ? well I guess I can give him another chance <3


And now off to Rannoch with Love Support :happy:

Modifié par LadyAly, 31 juillet 2012 - 07:51 .

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

@LadyAly

Anita Shepard :

- Colonist
- Survivor
- Paragade

Li = only Liara T'soni

classes = Vangurd

Ending Decision = Destroy ( the only way to sorvovir and to re-abrace Liara )

i have more screen in my profile, from ME1-ME2 and ME3

i made all my Female Shepard in ME1.



http://social.biowar.../1999368/#album
this is my profile adress for watch my all screen of Female Shepard and Liara

Modifié par FRANCESCO84Inn, 31 juillet 2012 - 08:09 .

[LadyAly]

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

@LadyAly

Anita Shepard :

- Colonist
- Survivor
- Paragade

Li = only Liara T'soni

classes = Vangurd

i have more screen in my profile, from ME1-ME2 and ME3

i made all my Female Shepard in ME1.

Nice - looking forward to see and read some from her

[Bowie Hawkins]

SebAusFR wrote...

...I actually like the idea that the Catalyst is a form of IA that has taken its mission way too seriously, to the extremes. It has a strange and revolting logic...

Its arguments are constructed along logical lines, but because they are based on the flawed premise that warfare between synthetics and organics cannot ever be avoided (as well as the assumption that if it does occur, it will always be the synthetics' fault) the conclusions it reaches are an unforgivable tautology.

draken-heart wrote...

i recently reserved my copy of Darksiders 2, which is played in the role of the horseman of Death, and that got me thinking. Which horseman would Female Shepard be? i would say war or conquest.

Given her Sole Survivor background and her choice of the Destroy ending, Hannah would definitely be Death. Which makes me wonder which of the squadmates would be the rest? Hmmm:

Famine: Mess Sargeant Gardner (His culinary abominations, amirite?)
Plague: Mordin (his work on the Genophage made this a gimme.)
War: Jack (At first i was thinking of Zaeed, but he just fights for money. The anger that drives Jack and her love of destruction makes her a natural for this spot.)

Modifié par Bowie Hawkins, 31 juillet 2012 - 09:21 .

[SebAusFR]

Bowie Hawkins wrote...

SebAusFR wrote...
...I actually like the idea that the Catalyst is a form of IA that has taken its mission way too seriously, to the extremes. It has a strange and revolting logic...

Its arguments are constructed along logical lines, but because they are based on the flawed premise that warfare between synthetics and organics cannot ever be avoided (as well as the assumption that if it does occur, it will always be the organics' fault) the conclusions it reaches are an unforgivable tautology.

Well, the Catalyst has observed a number of times that warfare happened and concluded that it was inevitable. It problably did not observed cycles, since the cycle is what it implemented, but rather before the cycles started. It migh have had dozens of examples of organo-synthetic wars to work on. Then, it decided, "okay, that must be inevitable [in terms of probabilities], let's do something about it". Afterwards, and up to the present time, the cycles has prevented any disproving of its conclusion. You are right that it might be a flawed premise, but I see reasons how the Catalyst could have looked at some data and still came to this conclusion.

[LadyAly]

SebAusFR wrote...

Bowie Hawkins wrote...

SebAusFR wrote...
...I actually like the idea that the Catalyst is a form of IA that has taken its mission way too seriously, to the extremes. It has a strange and revolting logic...

Its arguments are constructed along logical lines, but because they are based on the flawed premise that warfare between synthetics and organics cannot ever be avoided (as well as the assumption that if it does occur, it will always be the organics' fault) the conclusions it reaches are an unforgivable tautology.

Well, the Catalyst has observed a number of times that warfare happened and concluded that it was inevitable. It problably did not observed cycles, since the cycle is what it implemented, but rather before the cycles started. It migh have had dozens of examples of organo-synthetic wars to work on. Then, it decided, "okay, that must be inevitable [in terms of probabilities], let's do something about it". Afterwards, and up to the present time, the cycles has prevented any disproving of its conclusion. You are right that it might be a flawed premise, but I see reasons how the Catalyst could have looked at some data and still came to this conclusion.

I like this point of view. But it can be possible the Catalyst is just gone rogue in the past. I suppose logical lines can mess up really bad - and it is proofed that  human logic is very different, cause it is based of much more then logical lines.
Example for me is the very old movie Space Odysee from Stanley Kubrick.
The Catalyst was only filled with the data from his creators -BUT - how many flaws have they ? And what has he discovered alone ? His conclusions are still based on the original data of his creators. The conflict between both can drove him nuts

Modifié par LadyAly, 31 juillet 2012 - 09:10 .

[Bowie Hawkins]

Bowie Hawkins wrote...

(as well as the assumption that if it does occur, it will always be the organics' fault)

i only just realised that i wrote "organics" when I meant to write "synthetics". Correcting that now.