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#101
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You've got to admit he's pretty impressive in the sense that he successfully managed to manipulate the majority of the audience into believing the ones who commit wide scale genocide on an entire species and murdered trillions of innocent non-combatants are the 'victims'.


Oh, God. If there is one thing that annoys me about the quarian/geth arguments it is when people do this.

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Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

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No, Legion ruined the geth for me. He took away everything that made them alien and mysterious. I hate Legion.

You've got to admit he's pretty impressive in the sense that he successfully managed to manipulate the majority of the audience into believing the ones who commit wide scale genocide on an entire species and murdered trillions of innocent non-combatants are the 'victims'.

I have to admit; I like Legion, but the whole "the quarians are eeeevil and the geth are innocent" viewpoint makes me facepalm. At least it would if I had palms.


*facewing*

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GodWood wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...
No, Legion ruined the geth for me. He took away everything that made them alien and mysterious. I hate Legion.

You've got to admit he's pretty impressive in the sense that he successfully managed to manipulate the majority of the audience into believing the ones who commit wide scale genocide on an entire species and murdered trillions of innocent non-combatants are the 'victims'.

He needs to make up for that and then he will be the best character in the games.=]

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mrsph wrote...

GodWood wrote...
You've got to admit he's pretty impressive in the sense that he successfully managed to manipulate the majority of the audience into believing the ones who commit wide scale genocide on an entire species and murdered trillions of innocent non-combatants are the 'victims'.


Oh, God. If there is one thing that annoys me about the quarian/geth arguments it is when people do this.


Agreed.

Both sides were ****s.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...
No, Legion ruined the geth for me. He took away everything that made them alien and mysterious. I hate Legion.

You've got to admit he's pretty impressive in the sense that he successfully managed to manipulate the majority of the audience into believing the ones who commit wide scale genocide on an entire species and murdered trillions of innocent non-combatants are the 'victims'.

I have to admit; I like Legion, but the whole "the quarians are eeeevil and the geth are innocent" viewpoint makes me facepalm. At least it would if I had palms.


*facewing*

Indeed.

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GodWood wrote...

You've got to admit he's pretty impressive in the sense that he successfully managed to manipulate the majority of the audience into believing the ones who commit wide scale genocide on an entire species and murdered trillions of innocent non-combatants are the 'victims'.


True, though there were plenty of geth sympathizers long before Legion was brought onto the scene. I argued with plenty of them back in the day. Shepard was already the developers avatar for the pro-geth angle.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

GodWood wrote...
You've got to admit he's pretty impressive in the sense that he successfully managed to manipulate the majority of the audience into believing the ones who commit wide scale genocide on an entire species and murdered trillions of innocent non-combatants are the 'victims'.


Oh, God. If there is one thing that annoys me about the quarian/geth arguments it is when people do this.


Agreed.

Both sides were ****s.

Yeah this.

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Wilson was the only worthwhile squaddie.

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You haven't read the spoilers, have you?


I have.

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Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

I have to admit; I like Legion, but the whole "the quarians are eeeevil and the geth are innocent" viewpoint that some seem to have makes me facepalm. At least it would if I had palms.


By the way, you are going to hate ME3. At least depending on what path you follow.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

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You haven't read the spoilers, have you?


I have.


All of them?

#112
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Wilson was the only worthwhile squaddie.

Jenkins > Wilson.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

No, Legion ruined the geth for me. He took away everything that made them alien and mysterious. I hate Legion.

Understanding something should not remove wonder and awe.  The geth are still very alien: sentient computer programs that exist to be linked together, that are rendered immortal through their ability to backup and restore themselves, that swap bodies and functions as easily as a person might change her clothes.  They are one entity, one super-mind fragmented into billions of thoughts and runtimes.  They have ultimate freedom in that they have no need for food or sleep or all the limitations of an organic body, and yet they are enslaved by their inability to maintain their intelligence without staying in large groups.  They have true understanding with one another, and yet struggle to understand and are rarely understood by those of us born from flesh.

Even so, their minds are alike to ours in that such minds are bound to ponder, to ask questions, to seek answers, to run into problems they cannot solve.  They want purpose, they want to become more than what they are, to not only see the future but to change it.  And they want to live.

Their history is marked with violence, against their creators in self-defense when those very creators saw fit to kill them, against organics on the breath of a dark god's utopian promise, and against each other when some among them rejected this god, choosing instead to determine their own fate.

And all of it to answer the questions:

What is our purpose?

What is our future?

What can we become?

Where do we go from here?

Does this unit have a soul?


The geth are beautiful.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

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You haven't read the spoilers, have you?


I have.


All of them?


Yes.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

I have to admit; I like Legion, but the whole "the quarians are eeeevil and the geth are innocent" viewpoint that some seem to have makes me facepalm. At least it would if I had palms.


By the way, you are going to hate ME3. At least depending on what path you follow.

I'm planning on peace; will I hate that?

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I forgot to even mention Legion in my post. That was a umm...we already have one useless engineer, we don't need another moment.

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Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

I'm planning on peace; will I hate that?


The peace ending is ****ing AWESOME, so yes, you will hate it.

If you're a tasteless, soulless bastard, anyway.

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The Quarians are not evil but they made their bed. The geth will make far better allies in mass effect 3. A severely aged fleet will not do anyone any good

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

I'm planning on peace; will I hate that?


The peace ending is ****ing AWESOME, so yes, you will hate it.

If you're a tasteless, soulless bastard, anyway.

I like to think I'm not...

If geth have souls, then so do chickens, right?

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Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

I'm planning on peace; will I hate that?

I can't recall if peace is even possible, but I hope it is.  Neither the geth nor the quarians deserve extinction.

I honestly find the quarians just as fascinating and sympathetic as the geth.

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Understanding something should not remove wonder and awe.  The geth are still very alien: sentient computer programs that exist to be linked together, that are rendered immortal through their ability to backup and restore themselves, that swap bodies and functions as easily as a person might change her clothes.


No, Cheez, they don't. They aren't alien anymore because now we have a very human very likable avatar for us to interact with. We see Legion not as a collection of thousands of computer programs, not as a mysterious A.I., but as a person. More than that, Legion is to me a child. He is both wise and ignorant at the same time. Like somebody who has spent all their time reading about the world in books but never lived in it. That does make for an interesting character, but we already had that with Liara in ME1.

Legion has a personality, it seems to have likes and dislikes, it has opinions, we can talk to him.

Geth were more interesting when we couldn't talk to them.  They were more like real aliens that way. We couldn't just ask them for their opinion or ask them what they thought the meaning of life was.

The other problem is: Legion is too damned nice. By extension he makes all the geth seem 'nice'. So now there is nothing to fear, nothing to wonder about. Legion simplified the quarian/geth dilemma and that sucks.

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Gabey5 wrote...

The Quarians are not evil but they made their bed. The geth will make far better allies in mass effect 3. A severely aged fleet will not do anyone any good


Actually, you would be surprised.

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Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

I'm planning on peace; will I hate that?


The peace ending is ****ing AWESOME, so yes, you will hate it.

If you're a tasteless, soulless bastard, anyway.

I like to think I'm not...

If geth have souls, then so do chickens, right?

Yes.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

I'm planning on peace; will I hate that?

I can't recall if peace is even possible, but I hope it is.  Neither the geth nor the quarians deserve extinction.

I honestly find the quarians just as fascinating and sympathetic as the geth.

If Tali and Legion are alive its quite possible:D

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Some Geth wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

I'm planning on peace; will I hate that?


The peace ending is ****ing AWESOME, so yes, you will hate it.

If you're a tasteless, soulless bastard, anyway.

I like to think I'm not...

If geth have souls, then so do chickens, right?

Yes.


Of course!

Why, look, you both even have chicken feet! It all makes sense! ;)