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[Cloaking_Thane]

The way they handled Jacob was less than desired, but overall I'd rather wait until the end to really have solid thought on who and who werent superfluous

[Clover Rider]

Who the hell is Garry?

[Gabey5]

@ chicken

i meant when we were first introduced to her in me1

i recall my first play i did not talk to her at all.

i also did not feel comfortable giving her access to the ship drive, seriously letting a random alien we met yesterday have full access?

Modifié par Gabey5, 25 janvier 2012 - 04:05 .

[S.A.K]

Saphra Deden wrote...

In ME1 I didn't like Tali at all, though I didn't dislike her either, until after I had to get the "quarian ally achievement". Taking her everywhere with me I finally saw her wonderful sense of humor and how well rounded she was. I was touched by our last conversation in ME1 where she told Shepard how much it meant to her that she'd been treated like just another member of his crew.

It's too bad it had to end like this though.

What made you dislike her? Something in the leak?

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

No it didn't.

The geth are all nice and want peace but the quarians won't let them. It was the quarians' falt the war happened.

Oh, you've got to be kidding.  What about the billions of quarians that died?  The centuries the survivors spent in exile?  What about the heretics, who are still geth, who killed god knows how many people during the events of ME1?  And then there's Haestrom, where the "true" geth just assumed the quarians were there to destroy them, so they killed dozens there, too.  And all the other countless ships that went too deep into the Veil.

Legion is a funny guy, but that doesn't mean the geth are any less dangerous.  Worse, as Overlord and the heretic virus proved, their affiliation can be changed suddenly and without warning.  All the geth care about is their own survival, and even that can be taken from them by a powerful enough technology.  You and I have enough brains to know that.  Those that don't would probably just side with whether they liked Tali or Legion better, anyway.

You might be able to get away with this if the game actually let you confront Legion about the quarian genocide because at least then you'd able to talk about that and that's a great moral discussion. However the game doesn't allow this. So instead we just got preaching and a bunch of friendly toasters.

We probably would have had that discussion if Legion weren't dropped on us at the end of the game.  Alas, there are a lot of shoulda-coulda-wouldas in Mass Effect.  Imagine, for a moment, if we got Caleston--a whole hub world--instead of dinky ol' Therum, a railroad track with two miniboss fights.

I guess Bioware was trying to be ironic.

Or they made a great squadmate and a great sideplot and you're just mad that it doesn't favor Tally-Wally.

The geth can be alive and not be likable, lovable, do-the-robot, people.

Oh, like the batarians?

[RiptideX1090]

S.A.K wrote...
What made you dislike her? Something in the leak?

Liking Tali became too mainstream.

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

S.A.K wrote...
What made you dislike her? Something in the leak?

Liking Tali became too mainstream.

All the hip people like Jacob.

[S.A.K]

Saphra Deden wrote...

S.A.K wrote...
What made you dislike her? Something in the leak?

Yes, though her actions in ME2 were pretty despicable as well. However I was willing to forgive that considering the circumstances.

I think this gonna be spoiler territory, so can you PM me what you found?

[AndyXTheXGamer360]

I think every squad member should be there, even tho there is some i hate.

[RiptideX1090]

Saphra Deden wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

S.A.K wrote...
What made you dislike her? Something in the leak?

Liking Tali became too mainstream.

Talimancer rage if I ever saw it.

Talihater butthurt if ever I saw it.

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Cheez, you should know me well enough to know that I don't see the quarian/geth issue this way. However that is how ME2 insists on portraying it and they do that largely through the way they portray Legion.

You see a lot of things in ways most people don't.  Occasionally, that provides wonderful insight for the rest of us.  Just as frequently, however, you jump nuts-first into an abyss of twisted logic and borderline sociopathy.

Full of angry little fishies that jump up and insult people.

Such is the cost of your genius, I suppose.

I'm debating whether or not I meant that last line sarcastically.  You are pretty damn smart.

[RiptideX1090]

mrsph wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

All the hip people like Jacob.

Until Mass Effect 3 ruins him.

They really did twist a knife into your gut, didn't they?

[darthnick427]

I liked every squadmate in their own way so I'm gonna disagree with you OP

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I know you are but what am I?

Don't know about you, but I am your Queen and Goddess, and my wrath is both awesome and terrible.  Now, get to the prayers and sacrifices before I'm forced to smite you with the plague or something.

[Welsh Inferno]

*Looks in thread*

Cheez winning as usual I see.

*Leaves*

[RiptideX1090]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

*Looks in thread*

Cheez winning as usual I see.

*Leaves*

As it should be.

[Volus Warlord]

Is this the thread where I can hate on squadmates? COOL!

Hated:
Jacob-Not interesting, dies too much to be useful in gameplay.
Sorry, I couldn't help but to feel he was the "token" of the Normandy and had no other purpose.

Jack- Put a shirt on and lose some of the crazy. Also, try NOT dying every two seconds.
She's is screwed up beyond repair. A true lost cause.

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

I have to disagree with Saphra over whether Tali is a good character, and over whether Legion is a good character, and over whether the peace ending is good, and over who knows what else, but here I'm going to have to actually agree: the way ME has handled the quarians vs. geth situation has been biased towards the geth side.