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I think the ship is more valuable than the council. I think the Ascension will be playing a significant role in ME3, in at least one major space battle.

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tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

And they weren't attacking sovereign. Presumably because cruisers travel speed is as slow as **** and would be too slow to get in on the action. The citadel cruisers should be closer, but with video game logic been what it is who knows...



All the citadel ships are enganged (and thus can't move freely). They are already damaged.

the Alliance ships are not engaged and are fresh. Keep that in mind.

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Luc0s wrote...

100x this.


I couldn't have said it better myself. Of course the Paragon goody-two-shoes are not going to listen to reason, so this comment will fall on deaf ears among the Paragon players here. But any realistic player who reads this will realize that you're completely right.

We will see in ME3, I'm playing both and a middle ground, I think the middle ground character is going to have an easier time than pure renegade/paragon, I think we will all have to be ready to make some heavy sacrifices, Bioware is gonna hit us where it really hurts in ME3.

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This may sound like a cruel tactic, but when I came to that decision I felt that Sovereign was the bigger threat. Because of this I decided to save what fresh reinforcements I had for Sovereign, and let what was left of the Citadel fleet distract the Geth.

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nelly21 wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

The only geth around were attacking the DA... right outside of the closed citadel.


Correct. They were focused on their target and are caught entirely by surprise when the Alliance charges in the second the Citadel opens.


Incorrect. You can see more fighting in the background and aditional texts confirm there's more fighting going on.
There's a lot more to the citadel fleet than the DA.

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Saving the Ascension is the smarter option, for both long and short term.

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mango smoothie wrote...

This may sound like a cruel tactic, but when I came to that decision I felt that Sovereign was the bigger threat. Because of this I decided to save what fresh reinforcements I had for Sovereign, and let what was left of the Citadel fleet distract the Geth.


Same here.

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Mesina2 wrote...

mango smoothie wrote...

This may sound like a cruel tactic, but when I came to that decision I felt that Sovereign was the bigger threat. Because of this I decided to save what fresh reinforcements I had for Sovereign, and let what was left of the Citadel fleet distract the Geth.



I never got this... You take down Sovereign either way.
Why not save them?

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bleetman wrote...

There's military justifications for going either way, I'd say. As I mentioned in another thread, my own personal reasoning the times I opted to save it wasn't so much to actually save the ship or the council itself, but to flank and quickly obliterate the geth fleet that arrived with Sovereign whilst it was pre-occupied. The alliance fleet would've been slaughtered if it ended up caught between Sovereign and the geth.


I beg to differ.

The goal isn't to flank the Geth. Sovereign is important.
Either way, the Geth are busy with the Citadel fleet, they can't just flank you.

You could argue you wanted more firepower agaisnt Sovereign, but again - fresh ships vs. damaged ones. Also, since no one actually engaged Sovereign properly there was no way to tell how much firepower would be needed. No way to tell how much time you have to take it out.

Logic dictates to assault with as much force you can bring to bear as fast as you can. Sacrificing either firepower or time needlesly is a downright bad move.

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You guys are making me want to re-play Mass Effect. That was one hell of a game.

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D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...

I never got this... You take down Sovereign either way.
Why not save them?


Because we didn't metagame.

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Because when you get to that decision, Shepard doesn't know that you can take down Sovereign either way.

It's that role-playing thing some of us like to do when playing role-playing games.

Modifié par AlanC9, 25 janvier 2012 - 06:52 .


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D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

mango smoothie wrote...

This may sound like a cruel tactic, but when I came to that decision I felt that Sovereign was the bigger threat. Because of this I decided to save what fresh reinforcements I had for Sovereign, and let what was left of the Citadel fleet distract the Geth.



I never got this... You take down Sovereign either way.
Why not save them?


Because that was the decision that I made the first time I played with my canon. Plus my canon is based off me so I make decisions that I think I would make in that situation. Just because I know the outcomes and the future doesn't mean I should change them because of that.

Modifié par mango smoothie, 25 janvier 2012 - 06:53 .


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mango smoothie wrote...

D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

mango smoothie wrote...

This may sound like a cruel tactic, but when I came to that decision I felt that Sovereign was the bigger threat. Because of this I decided to save what fresh reinforcements I had for Sovereign, and let what was left of the Citadel fleet distract the Geth.



I never got this... You take down Sovereign either way.
Why not save them?


Because that was the decision that I made the first time I played with my canon. Plus my canon is based off me so I make decisions that I think I would make in that situation. Just because I know the outcomes and the future doesn't mean I should change them because of that.


Ahh, just making sure.

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I saved it because it didn't make sense to let the flagship and the government die when I could easily prevent it.

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I save the Ascension every time.

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mango smoothie wrote...

This may sound like a cruel tactic, but when I came to that decision I felt that Sovereign was the bigger threat. Because of this I decided to save what fresh reinforcements I had for Sovereign, and let what was left of the Citadel fleet distract the Geth.


It's not a cruel one, but an excellent.


That is to say if you're not a man who takes risks.

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The only reason I saved the Ascension is because I didn't want the Alliance's arse hanging out for the geth once they cut through the Citadel's engagement forces.

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Chewin3 wrote...

mango smoothie wrote...

This may sound like a cruel tactic, but when I came to that decision I felt that Sovereign was the bigger threat. Because of this I decided to save what fresh reinforcements I had for Sovereign, and let what was left of the Citadel fleet distract the Geth.


It's not a cruel one, but an excellent.


That is to say if you're not a man who takes risks.


I know when to take risks I just might not like it.

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mango smoothie wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

mango smoothie wrote...

This may sound like a cruel tactic, but when I came to that decision I felt that Sovereign was the bigger threat. Because of this I decided to save what fresh reinforcements I had for Sovereign, and let what was left of the Citadel fleet distract the Geth.


It's not a cruel one, but an excellent.


That is to say if you're not a man who takes risks.


I know when to take risks I just might not like it.


Same.

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I wonder if they'll ever differentiate between letting the council die and concentrating on Sovereign.

I always concentrated on Sovereign because for my Shepard (who was mostly Paragon and anti-Cerberus) it was the right thing to do at the time. Ever since I've been treated as a disgusting xenophobe for it.

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Yuoaman wrote...

I saved it because it didn't make sense to let the flagship and the government die when I could easily prevent it.

Just to play devils advocate here, it was not easy on the human fleet you sacrificed to save the DA.

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the cutscene saving the ascension is alot more epic

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D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...

the cutscene saving the ascension is alot more epic


But letting it getting destroyed and Hackett saying not to help anyone is far more dramatic.

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D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...

the cutscene saving the ascension is alot more epic


Yes but in a sense it's something you see all the time in movies, shows, other games. While sacrificing is more of a shock value that makes you realize the horrors of war.