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[Meta Ray Mek]

mrsph wrote...

Meta Ray Mek wrote...

True.

But the autism fail just goes beyond the pale. It's horribly offensive. I don't know how Dietz could have written Gillian "getting over" her autism and not think it was NOT okay. What about the editor? What about the person at BioWare who signs off on this stuff?

I just... this is horrible.

No amount of macros, gifs, and Red Lantern blood vomit spewing pics can sum up how I feel about this.

I think changing a character's sexual orientation is just as offensive.

Yeah, both are horribly offensive. 

I'm just really touchy about the autism thing on a personal level, because I have 2 autistic siblings. They've done really well the last 20-odd years, though there are times. 

I just want to knee the writer in the shins. Ugh. I think I need a shower now.

[TheRevanchist]

mrsph wrote...

Meta Ray Mek wrote...

True.

But the autism fail just goes beyond the pale. It's horribly offensive. I don't know how Dietz could have written Gillian "getting over" her autism and not think it was NOT okay. What about the editor? What about the person at BioWare who signs off on this stuff?

I just... this is horrible.

No amount of macros, gifs, and Red Lantern blood vomit spewing pics can sum up how I feel about this.

I think changing a character's sexual orientation is just as offensive.

Indeed...but then...really everything in this book is offensive....IT NEVER HAPPEND PEOPLE! THIS BOOK IS JUST A HORRIBLE NIGHTMARE!!!!! WIPE IT FROM YOUR MINDS!

[KillTheLastRomantic]

Jigster1 wrote...

Greatsultan wrote...

PM the ending please ?

Same could someone PM me the ending to?

Me too, please. I mean I know certain characters don't make it out alive but would like to know the actual details before I rage about it.

[KillTheLastRomantic]

mrsph wrote...

Meta Ray Mek wrote...

True.

But the autism fail just goes beyond the pale. It's horribly offensive. I don't know how Dietz could have written Gillian "getting over" her autism and not think it was NOT okay. What about the editor? What about the person at BioWare who signs off on this stuff?

I just... this is horrible.

No amount of macros, gifs, and Red Lantern blood vomit spewing pics can sum up how I feel about this.

I think changing a character's sexual orientation is just as offensive.

Particularly when he was currently the only gay male in the entire franchise. ¬.¬

[JoeLaTurkey]

Homer reads the Deception extract

Also, is anybody going to make a Downfall parody for this book?

Modifié par JoeLaTurkey, 29 janvier 2012 - 03:16 .

[thoththeblack]

Looking over the list of errors, I can explain a few away with a little work. Most, however, are just sad. Especially as the books and comics have, up to this point, been considered a canon part of the Mass Effect universe.

I was hoping that Kahlee and Gillian would show up in ME3 but now, maybe it would be better if they rode off into the sunset and we pretended this book didn't happen?

[Khran1505]

JoeLaTurkey wrote...

Homer reads the Deception extract

Also, is anybody going to make a Downfall parody for this book?

Total freaking win.

Also, anyone who hasn't seen the ending of Deception, let me know and I'll PM it to you.

[JamesFaith]

Meta Ray Mek wrote...

I'm just really touchy about the autism thing on a personal level, because I have 2 autistic siblings. They've done really well the last 20-odd years, though there are times. 

I just want to knee the writer in the shins. Ugh. I think I need a shower now.

I understand you, erasing of Gillian's autism was first moment when I started hating this book. This character was unique, sensitively described and successfuly avoid all "Rainman genius" clisché. For  people with lighter autism who can read such book, must Gillian have same importance like Uhura in Star Trek for Afroamericans. And Dietz simple butcher this character, because for him was autism only "flaw" on his planned character.

[Nero Narmeril]

<read the ending, read the plot>

In MY universe, it has never happened...

[KillTheLastRomantic]

Received. Read. Urgh.

[Lyvef1re]

thoththeblack wrote...

Looking over the list of errors, I can explain a few away with a little work. Most, however, are just sad. Especially as the books and comics have, up to this point, been considered a canon part of the Mass Effect universe.

I was hoping that Kahlee and Gillian would show up in ME3 but now, maybe it would be better if they rode off into the sunset and we pretended this book didn't happen?

Hope that isn't your preferred ending.

[matt-bassist]

JeffZero wrote...

Please continue discussing William Dietz's Mass Effect novel here. Let's talk about the novel and only the novel, and not mention anything outside the site's rules and regulations. 

There is an excerpt available for the book, featuring the first fifty-plus pages.

There is also a Google docs page on all the myriad errors in this book. You won't believe your eyes. (For the record, if anyone is wondering whether or not they should purchase this book, the answer is a resounding no, save for potential noncanonical comedic value. Yes, it's technically classified as canon, but... no, just no.)

Beware of SPOILERS, of course.

Jesus H. Christ that list of errors is EMBARRASSING! 

[omnitremere]

Alright I'll bite. Can somebody pm me the ending please? I'll probably still get the book just to have all information before ME3. But I'd rather be prepared than unpleasantly surprised.

[LPPrince]

Iohanna wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

M. Night. Shala'Raan wouldn't even support this.

Best crossover pun I have ever seen. I tip my hat to you sir!

In other news, I will never see Shala'Raan the same way ever again.

My condolences.

/I've said that a lot lately.

/ThisIsHowWeDoIt

[Sailears]

Shin-Anubis wrote...

Thank you guys so much for this
thread. Found it just in time. Still possible to cancel my Deception
pre-order. What a shame really [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]

Yeah thank's to all those who highlighted these points.

I didn't read the excerpt, but now seeing that list and the comments I'm glad I didn't spend time on it.
Shame, I was looking forward to this book.

Iohanna wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

M. Night. Shala'Raan wouldn't even support this.

Best crossover pun I have ever seen. I tip my hat to you sir!

In other news, I will never see Shala'Raan the same way ever again.

LOL, nice one!

[LPPrince]

Curunen wrote...

Iohanna wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

M. Night. Shala'Raan wouldn't even support this.

Best crossover pun I have ever seen. I tip my hat to you sir!

In other news, I will never see Shala'Raan the same way ever again.

LOL, nice one!

Glad I could please.

[Someone With Mass]

Shala'Raan probably don't give a vorcha's ass about this book either.

[ElitePinecone]

thoththeblack wrote...

Looking over the list of errors, I can explain a few away with a little work. Most, however, are just sad. Especially as the books and comics have, up to this point, been considered a canon part of the Mass Effect universe.

I was hoping that Kahlee and Gillian would show up in ME3 but now, maybe it would be better if they rode off into the sunset and we pretended this book didn't happen?

Depending on how much you want to be spoiled, I can say that one of those characters has a substantial role in an ME3 mission. 

The event of Deception make it pretty clear that the other character won't have a role. 

Between Deception and ME3, Bioware will have pretty much comprehensively wrapped up the novel series. There is absolutely no way to continue it with any of Drew's original major characters, except possibly Anderson (and even then, I forget the details of his ME3 role). 

[omnitremere]

Alright somebody just told me the ending. WTF?!!!! What in the ****ing ****?!!! I've never been so pissed off and laughed so hard at the same time. Oh my God. This HAS to be ret-conned. It just has to be. Drew you cannot let this stand. I never thought the books were literature masterpieces but the characters deserved better than this drivel. Oh man. Man oh man oh man oh man

[Khran1505]

All I know about Anderson myself is he's to remain on Earth directing the forces while you travel the galaxy to rally an army.

[LPPrince]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Shala'Raan probably don't give a vorcha's ass about this book either.

She's got more important things to worry about, like a Reaper invasion and who takes Tali's father's place. Likely Tali.

[LPPrince]

I012345 wrote...

Alright somebody just told me the ending. WTF?!!!! What in the ****ing ****?!!! I've never been so pissed off and laughed so hard at the same time. Oh my God. This HAS to be ret-conned. It just has to be. Drew you cannot let this stand. I never thought the books were literature masterpieces but the characters deserved better than this drivel. Oh man. Man oh man oh man oh man

Drew Karpyshyn is in no position to do anything about it.

Its the higher ups like Casey Hudson that need to be contacted.

[TheRevanchist]

Wait whats up with Shala'Raan? have a missed something else?

[LPPrince]

4 days, over 10,000 views, one dev post unrelated to the main opinion throughout the thread, and never stickied.

Job well done so far.

[LPPrince]

kylecouch wrote...

Wait whats up with Shala'Raan? have a missed something else?

M. Night Shala'Raan. That is all.