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[ZLurps]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Doctalen wrote...

Closest thing to that would be a fan edit. I doubt they would recall the book due to a miniority of fans knowing their lore. Most fans of the series would probably not notice anything wrong 

I don't think I agree with that last part. Any fan who is interested enough in Mass Effect to read any of these extended universe style books would at least have a basic understanding of the univerese they are supposed to take place in. Sure, they might not notice all the obscure mistakes, but much if it is so glaringly obvious that I have trouble believing anyone would be able to miss them.

I think lore is important to some people, important to some and others are more interested about the characters and story. There are as many different experiences of ME universe as there are players or readers of these side products.

I think this book fails in every category and it's only real value is in unintentional humour and even that is ruined in the end. It's really difficult to imagine a fan who would enjoy this novel.

[JoePilot]

LOL:


"That small tremor you just felt is every Mass Effect fan from here to the ends of the earth banging their head against the nearest hard surface."

Modifié par JoePilot, 29 janvier 2012 - 08:59 .

[AVPen]

Doctalen wrote...

X-JIDE wrote...

I’m not too sure if this has been asked before (haven’t read the whole thread yet X_X).

Do you think it would be wise if Mass Effect: Deception was to be recalled? Due to all the errors the community have put together. I for one would think it would be the best idea until they can fix all the inconsistencies.

Closest thing to that would be a fan edit. I doubt they would recall the book due to a miniority of fans knowing their lore. Most fans of the series would probably not notice anything wrong 

I'm a faneditor in my spare time (well, for films, at least), and even I wouldn't touch this novel with a 10 foot pole... Deception doesn't just require a few edits and rewrites here and there, I think it would require a complete reconceptualization of it's plot, the characters involved, etc etc. <_<

[CaineMaster]

Quick question, how was a disease created meant for the illusive man, when no one knows who he is? or did I miss read that?

[CARL_DF90]

I can Hackett wrote...

thank god this guys Dietz wasnt in charge or writing ME3

Amen to that. I'm just in a bewilderment at how Bioware could have allowed this garbage to be entered into the Mass Effect saga. How disappointing.

[X-JIDE]

AVPen wrote...

Doctalen wrote...

X-JIDE wrote...

I’m not too sure if this has been asked before (haven’t read the whole thread yet X_X).

Do you think it would be wise if Mass Effect: Deception was to be recalled? Due to all the errors the community have put together. I for one would think it would be the best idea until they can fix all the inconsistencies.

Closest thing to that would be a fan edit. I doubt they would recall the book due to a miniority of fans knowing their lore. Most fans of the series would probably not notice anything wrong 

I'm a faneditor in my spare time (well, for films, at least), and even I wouldn't touch this novel with a 10 foot pole... Deception doesn't just require a few edits and rewrites here and there, I think it would require a complete reconceptualization of it's plot, the characters involved, etc etc. <_<

I’m just shocked that it even got to the printed stage to begin with. Anyone could have read those errors on the first 50 pages alone and would have known the book had problems. Someone didn’t read this over properly.

[Lotion Soronarr]

LPPrince wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Nick brought his left hand up under Marisa’s chin. Her eyes met his. He meant to say something but wound up kissing her instead.

I love when ladies smell like soap.

"You're tearing me apart, Marisa!"-The Room

I think the womans name was Lisa not Marisa

THAT WAS THE POINT. /rofl

"That is bulls***! I did not eat that cereal! I did NooOOooT! ...OHAI Kai Leng!"

"You're tearing me apart Anderson, you're tearming me apart!...Anyway, how's your sex life?"

[izmirtheastarach]

ZLurps wrote...

I think lore is important to some people, important to some and others are more interested about the characters and story. There are as many different experiences of ME universe as there are players or readers of these side products.

I think this book fails in every category and it's only real value is in unintentional humour and even that is ruined in the end. It's really difficult to imagine a fan who would enjoy this novel.

I think that's my point. The largest segment of people who would actually be interested in the books are people who already care about the lore. That's why they are interested in new stories that take place in the Mass Effect univerese.

Either way, as you say this book fails on all fronts. Even if you had never heard of Mass Effect, the book is still terribly written and full of logic and plots holes.

[Eski.Moe]

Well, there was never any fear of Dietz having anything to do with ME3. So...

[Yuoaman]

CaineMaster wrote...

Quick question, how was a disease created meant for the illusive man, when no one knows who he is? or did I miss read that?

I have two theories on that. One is that a prior Cerberus operative turned on Cerberus, and had somehow gotten some DNA from TIM. The other is that the bioweapon was fake, and that TIM was just fishing to see who would show up at an auction where it was sold.

[crimzontearz]

Hello Man wrote...

CaineMaster wrote...
Quick question, how was a disease created meant for the illusive man, when no one knows who he is? or did I miss read that?

I'm sure everyone knows who the Illusive man is when he wrote his Manifesto and posted it all over the net in Mass Effect. How they got his DNA who knows, thats really just a mystery in the book. From what I 've read in the preview.

considering who his sexual partners are I doubt his DNA is that hard to come by

[hitorihanzo]

I'm not so worried about ME3 as I am future BioWare releases. I mean, according to a response from Mr. Dietz posted earlier in this thread, after the first draft BioWare went through the manuscript with him LINE... BY... LINE. IF that's the case, then this is not really his fault. The terribad writing, sure. But the Inconsistancies with established characters and lore, that's on BioWare. And to be honest, the one thing BioWare had going for it was it's extraordinary writing abilities (cuz it sure ain't game mechanics). Between DA2- which IMO was shoddily written, and this book, I am REALLY starting to lose faith in this company.

[CaineMaster]

Hello Man wrote...

CaineMaster wrote...

Quick question, how was a disease created meant for the illusive man, when no one knows who he is? or did I miss read that?

I'm sure everyone knows who the Illusive man is when he wrote his Manifesto and posted it all over the net in Mass Effect. How they got his DNA who knows, thats really just a mystery in the book. From what I 've read in the preview.

oh, I didn't realise he did that. Why would he do that?

[What a Succulent Ass]

Leng explained. “The mainstream media won't run our ads so we're using guerilla marketing techniques to put the message out. This includes wall crawls in places like Hu-Town, pirate sites on the extranet, and a network of flesh and blood storytellers, all trained to tell tales about the rise of humanity. Our polling shows that even though members of the other races tend to have negative impressions of Cerberus, most humans feel we are a positive influence."

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

[RebelGeth963]

At least he doesn't confuse eezo with neutronium (or does he? Haven't read it yet.)
In the ME Universe, element zero is apparently similar to dark energy, but in real life, it's is the periodic name for neutronium. A mistake I could picture being easily made by someone who didn't do their ME homework.

[izmirtheastarach]

Yuoaman wrote...

CaineMaster wrote...

Quick question, how was a disease created meant for the illusive man, when no one knows who he is? or did I miss read that?

I have two theories on that. One is that a prior Cerberus operative turned on Cerberus, and had somehow gotten some DNA from TIM. The other is that the bioweapon was fake, and that TIM was just fishing to see who would show up at an auction where it was sold.

And yet another is the William Dietz is a terrible hack. When I was reading it the thing that struck me the most was that even if such a thing was being sold, and TiM found out about it, I don't thing he would care. Because it's totally unbelievable that it could exist.

It's also, in case this is lost on anyone, AN EPISODE OF CHUCK. Which I think perhaps Dietz watched while he was writing this section. The timing actually works out pretty well.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Cerberus uses viral advertisements and humans don't think Cerberus agents are terrorists.

K.

[Yuoaman]

CaineMaster wrote...

Hello Man wrote...

CaineMaster wrote...

Quick question, how was a disease created meant for the illusive man, when no one knows who he is? or did I miss read that?

I'm sure everyone knows who the Illusive man is when he wrote his Manifesto and posted it all over the net in Mass Effect. How they got his DNA who knows, thats really just a mystery in the book. From what I 've read in the preview.

oh, I didn't realise he did that. Why would he do that?

Well, the fact that TIM exists isn't really a secret, it's just his actual identity that's unknown.

[LGTX]

Still inspired by the unity this thread established. For the first time in ages, BSN stands firm, together against the horrors of insulting writing and sloppy editing.

[Yuoaman]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

CaineMaster wrote...

Quick question, how was a disease created meant for the illusive man, when no one knows who he is? or did I miss read that?

I have two theories on that. One is that a prior Cerberus operative turned on Cerberus, and had somehow gotten some DNA from TIM. The other is that the bioweapon was fake, and that TIM was just fishing to see who would show up at an auction where it was sold.

And yet another is the William Dietz is a terrible hack. When I was reading it the thing that struck me the most was that even if such a thing was being sold, and TiM found out about it, I don't thing he would care. Because it's totally unbelievable that it could exist.

It's also, in case this is lost on anyone, AN EPISODE OF CHUCK. Which I think perhaps Dietz watched while he was writing this section. The timing actually works out pretty well.

Well that's the actual answer, but I was trying to come up with an explanation that would work in a better book.