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[The Love Runner]

(Shepard and Garrus in the weapon hold, Garrus holding a copy of the Deception novel)

Shepard: Have you got time to talk?
Garrus (gestures with the Deception novel): Can't it wait for a bit? I'm in the middle of some calibrations...

No wonder Garrus takes forever with those calibrations...

Modifié par Galactic Runner, 30 janvier 2012 - 12:14 .

[Khran1505]

[Vaeliorin]

1 more person saved! Pre-order cancelled...and to think, I still haven't gotten Asunder because Amazon wanted to ship it with Deception....Grr!

[Iohanna]

AVPen wrote...

Let me ask this question, since I have yet to read either "Ascension" or "Retribution" yet:

Was the character Nick always this much of a sh*thead?

Maybe. Thing is, those two books never focused on him much to begin with. He was a foil to explain the the workings of Grissom Academy and introduce Gillian's Biotic potential, and little else.

He has a mild case of "Hero-itis" by the end of Retribution, but nothing really ground-breaking.

[JamesFaith]

AVPen wrote...

Let me ask this question, since I have yet to read either "Ascension" or "Retribution" yet:

Was the character Nick always this much of a sh*thead? 

No, in Ascension he was just little arrogant, but nothing strange in 12 years old boy, and in Retribution was normal teenager, who want impress nice teacher and carrying about younger classmates. This idiocy is result of Dietz's  nurture.

[Maugrim]

AVPen wrote...
Was the character Nick always this much of a sh*thead? 

No not really, I mean he was a teenaged male, so certainly to some degree he was but nothing in the previous two books was this bad!

[Khran1505]

To be specific, Nick has been going through puberty and has acted like the typical 15 year old brat who's got too much confidence in his powers but still has some semblance of decency to him.

Deception kind of just slapped the decent parts away.

[JamesFaith]

Khran1505 wrote...

Mostly my neighbour no-face Wilson.

[izmirtheastarach]

UHHR UHHR UHHR

[PMAC10]

Over 50 errors!! were there no editors, or did the lead writers not think to give it a glance before letting this guy publish it?

[Chewin]

didymos1120 wrote...
It's important to demonstrate the superiority of our pentadactyl hands.  Human dominance isn't just about politics, you know.

Basically something we all should take extremely seriously, then.

[Merchant2006]

Oh god it's too late my order from Amazon has been dispatched.

Yanno, atleast when Drew wrote the previous 3 books they were good. He knew what was going on. The books atleast followed a... line. As in they may have had super-minor errors but... I checked out the post in OP and all those mistakes, oh god that's just horrible.

[Merchant2006]

PMAC10 wrote...

Over 50 errors!! were there no editors, or did the lead writers not think to give it a glance before letting this guy publish it?

Agreed lmao. When I opened the book and read about a Batarian Embassy I just went "wait what?!"

[XFemShepX]

All I have to say is--Thank GOD they released that fifty page preview of the book. 

Errors aside, that is seriously some of the most...(I can't even think of a non-offensive word, so we'll go with--) childish writing I've ever seen for an adult novel.  In fact, I've seen better written children's books.  Very embarrassing for them.

Then again, I don't think Bioware or Mac Walters follows this kind of stuff, do they?  This is the kind of writing in book series that just keeps expanding to the point where it's out of your control--like the multiple Star Ware books series.  

....right? 

[Liec]

There was a batarian ambassador mentioned during the last week of CDN, though. Maybe they reopened the embassy when Shepard wasn't looking.

[Armass81]

Merchant2006 wrote...

Oh god it's too late my order from Amazon has been dispatched.

Yanno, atleast when Drew wrote the previous 3 books they were good. He knew what was going on. The books atleast followed a... line. As in they may have had super-minor errors but... I checked out the post in OP and all those mistakes, oh god that's just horrible.

If you have a fireplace you can still use it to light it. Or as a spare toilet paper.

Modifié par Armass81, 30 janvier 2012 - 01:13 .

[Merchant2006]

GOOD WORK BIOWARE.

I'm guessing none of you sat down to read the book before this PoS was released? Bahahahahah.

[Armass81]

Merchant2006 wrote...

GOOD WORK BIOWARE.

I'm guessing none of you sat down to read the book before this PoS was released? Bahahahahah.

Either they didnt, or did and simpy didnt give a crap...

Modifié par Armass81, 30 janvier 2012 - 01:10 .

[Sherned]

Let me ask this question, since I have yet to read either "Ascension" or "Retribution" yet:

Was the character Nick always this much of a sh*thead?

He started like one. Our first introduction to Nick in Ascension was of him bullying Gillian so much that she became so upset she created a Singularity and nearly trashed the entire dining hall of Grissom Academy. Then again, he was 12.

He got better in Retribution.

Anyway, about Dietz... this is a serious fall from grace from him. Halo: The Flood was a much better read than this. To people who say "The Flood" was terrible; it wasn't. At the time that novel came out, it was only the 2nd Halo novel to be created, and reaction to it was mixed, but not universally negative. People were simply disappointed that it wasn't Eric Nylund who had written the book (Fall of Reach is still regarded today as one of the best video game novels ever).

However, "The Flood" was not a bad book. Disappointing perhaps, but not objectively bad. Dietz really got to show off his military knowledge in the writing, and he was very consistent in sticking to Halo lore. Hell, he practically invented the Elites' naming conventions that every author afterward would end up using! He expanded on the ODSTs when they had just been a throwaway line in Fall of Reach and turned them into the ultra-badass "Starship Troopers raining from space" that we're now familiar with them as. He expanded Corporal Jenkins' (yeah, Halo had a CPL Jenkins waaay before Mass Effect did) "death" a lot and turned him into more than a faceless grunt.

The writing had far less passive voice than this abomination of a ME novel. It was simply hampered by the fact that it was a novelization of an FPS, so yeah, it's not going to be great.

Here is a 2008 interview with him. You can see how passionate he was about the Halo universe, to the point where he bought an Xbox just to play the game.

Unfortunately, his writing career in recent years has been declining. His Resistance: Fall of Man novels were not that great either, and judging from what I see, it seems he simply doesn't care enough to play the games he's writing for these days. Shame.

[Khran1505]

I'll be reading Retribution in bed tonight just to keep some fraction of my sanity.

[Iohanna]

Merchant2006 wrote...

Oh god it's too late my order from Amazon has been dispatched.

Yanno, atleast when Drew wrote the previous 3 books they were good. He knew what was going on. The books atleast followed a... line. As in they may have had super-minor errors but... I checked out the post in OP and all those mistakes, oh god that's just horrible.

Well, I hate sounding like LPPrince, but...

My condolences.

I wish we could've helped you. No one deserves to buy this book without knowing what it entails.

Modifié par Iohanna, 30 janvier 2012 - 01:21 .

[Gabriel S.]

All those "Errors in ME Deception" are from the actual book? That you hold in your hands?

[Khran1505]

Merchant2006 wrote...

Oh god it's too late my order from Amazon has been dispatched.

Yanno, atleast when Drew wrote the previous 3 books they were good. He knew what was going on. The books atleast followed a... line. As in they may have had super-minor errors but... I checked out the post in OP and all those mistakes, oh god that's just horrible.

Just do what I did with mine. Burn the bugger.

[Maugrim]

Khran1505 wrote...

Merchant2006 wrote...

Oh god it's too late my order from Amazon has been dispatched.

Yanno, atleast when Drew wrote the previous 3 books they were good. He knew what was going on. The books atleast followed a... line. As in they may have had super-minor errors but... I checked out the post in OP and all those mistakes, oh god that's just horrible.

Just do what I did with mine. Burn the bugger.

You know what I'd try to return it, not just to get the money but to make a statement.  In my experiance Amazon has really good customer service and there is no way that the book lives up to quality expectations, nevermind the lore errors.  Add that in and I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon took it back

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 30 janvier 2012 - 01:18 .