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Mass Effect: Deception Discussion Thread (Updated 2/2/2012) *Now with 30% more links!*


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#3826
izmirtheastarach

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Iohanna wrote...

I have access, but since the doc isn't mine, I'd rather Yuoaman do it. Unless he gives me permission to add people.


Somehow I'm not sure he's going to add someone who has expressed a desire to delete the entries.

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What´s that about level 3 biotics?

And I don´t know if Drew staying would have made everything better. The summary of the Revan book was painful to read as a fan of Kotor. And it was also pointless making things like that.

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Can anyone add me to the Google docs document please?

If you can, please PM me so I can PM you my e-mail from my gmail account.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

What´s that about level 3 biotics?

And I don´t know if Drew staying would have made everything better. The summary of the Revan book was painful to read as a fan of Kotor. And it was also pointless making things like that.


Which is why he should've been kept on the ME project.

Anyway, according to Dietz, biotics are improved by practice and use. They are designated in levels, similar to Super Saiyans in Dragon Ball Z/GT.

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what the heck am i doing.

procrastinating in the best possible way, of course

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My favorite part of this debacle was going to be watching Lancer1289 have a breakdown trying to heard the cats over on the wiki post-release.

However, initial observation seems to suggest that he/she is way more clinical and unflappable than even I thought.  Dissapointing.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Iohanna wrote...

I have access, but since the doc isn't mine, I'd rather Yuoaman do it. Unless he gives me permission to add people.


Somehow I'm not sure he's going to add someone who has expressed a desire to delete the entries.


Oh no, not that! (Goodness!) I was refering to LPPrince and didymos.

Modifié par Iohanna, 30 janvier 2012 - 03:53 .


#3833
LPPrince

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SOMEONE MAKE THAT AN AVATAR.

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CROAT_56 wrote...

The deffinition of asexual fits both ME revelation and ME1-3 

source dictionary.com

a·sex·u·al   [ey-sek-shoo-uhPosted Imagel] sexual organs. b. independent of sexual especially not involving the union of male and female germ cells. 2. free from or unaffected by sexuality: an asexual friendship


I'm not defending him but the points are kind of correct according to drew's work.

Again, and I hate to keep having this argument with people. The codex in the game states verbablly out loud that the Asari are female. They are not sexless They also clearly have an interest in sex, which is the main part of the definition of the word asexual. I know that Drew uses to word in Revelation, but that is actually the only time it is ever used.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 30 janvier 2012 - 03:55 .


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LPPrince wrote...

SOMEONE MAKE THAT AN AVATAR.


That's a great idea, actually.

...why didn't I think of that?

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Luc0s wrote...

Lots of "errors" in the Google doc are in fact wrong themselves. How can I fix these errors or completely remove them?


You can try wrote your opinion, why they are wrong, here first. If you get good counter argument,  
they will be erase, it happenned before, but mostly this mistake succesfully defended themselves.

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LPPrince wrote...

Anyway, according to Dietz, biotics are improved by practice and use. They are designated in levels, similar to Super Saiyans in Dragon Ball Z/GT.


Think Shepard will be transforming into a super-biotic level 4 when Kai Leng murders his LI? Or shooting down Reapers with energy blasts?

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For anyone who wants access to the Doc just PM me their Gmail so they can be added to the list. If you take issue with one of the entries on the list I'd recommend moving it to the "Needs more research" area at the end, but leaving the number intact if it's decided to move it back into the main list at a later time.

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Regarding canon: even if the timing issues are hand-waved and Bioware never mention Deception again, and never refer to any of its events, I'd still be pretty upset at what happened in the novel if it stays canon.

Because characters would still be dead, or straight, or magically healed from autism, when they shouldn't be. The protagonists Karpyshyn crafted were treated abysmally, and even if all their stories end here, it shouldn't be like this.

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I for one would love to hear why Luc0s is right and everyone who contributed to the doc is wrong.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 30 janvier 2012 - 03:58 .


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wow. The ending is really stupid.

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And to reiterate again: "Revelation did it" does not make these things correct. Revelation has outdated stuff in it due to it being written and published well before ME1 had finished production. The fact that he lifted stuff right out of that novel only further serves to demonstrate how Dietz just skimmed through prior materials and didn't do adequate research.

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JoePilot wrote...

My favorite part of this debacle was going to be watching Lancer1289 have a breakdown trying to heard the cats over on the wiki post-release.


There was some exasperation in the comments of a blog post, wasn't there?

I am interested to see how the very exacting wiki admins handle Deception, particularly when its timeline is so well and truly FUBAR. 

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Yeah, it would take quite a bit to make this fit in canon - if anything I imagine a "broad strokes" ruling will take place. That most of the events happened, but the character motivations fit with established characters, and none of the silly stuff happened. I'm looking at you, Kai Leng.

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ddv.rsa wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Anyway, according to Dietz, biotics are improved by practice and use. They are designated in levels, similar to Super Saiyans in Dragon Ball Z/GT.


Think Shepard will be transforming into a super-biotic level 4 when Kai Leng murders his LI? Or shooting down Reapers with energy blasts?


I think Gillian should've turned into her SSJ form in Deception before the ending.

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Yuoaman wrote...

Yeah, it would take quite a bit to make this fit in canon - if anything I imagine a "broad strokes" ruling will take place. That most of the events happened, but the character motivations fit with established characters, and none of the silly stuff happened. I'm looking at you, Kai Leng.


TiM too. Please go kill that girl I spent billions on because she is annoyed with me.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 30 janvier 2012 - 04:00 .


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LPPrince wrote...

ddv.rsa wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Anyway, according to Dietz, biotics are improved by practice and use. They are designated in levels, similar to Super Saiyans in Dragon Ball Z/GT.


Think Shepard will be transforming into a super-biotic level 4 when Kai Leng murders his LI? Or shooting down Reapers with energy blasts?


I think Gillian should've turned into her SSJ form in Deception before the ending.

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Looks pretty accurate to me.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Yeah, it would take quite a bit to make this fit in canon - if anything I imagine a "broad strokes" ruling will take place. That most of the events happened, but the character motivations fit with established characters, and none of the silly stuff happened. I'm looking at you, Kai Leng.


TiM too. Please go kill that girl I spent billions on because she is annoyed with me.


Now excuse me while I go have a meeting with the Cerberus marketing department...

#3849
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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Yeah, it would take quite a bit to make this fit in canon - if anything I imagine a "broad strokes" ruling will take place. That most of the events happened, but the character motivations fit with established characters, and none of the silly stuff happened. I'm looking at you, Kai Leng.


TiM too. Please go kill that girl I spent billions on because she is annoyed with me.


The one he attacked the Migrant Fleet in order to get back.

Yeah, her. 

#3850
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didymos1120 wrote...

Now excuse me while I go have a meeting with the Cerberus marketing department...


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