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Mass Effect: Deception Discussion Thread (Updated 2/2/2012) *Now with 30% more links!*

Débuté par JeffZero , janv. 25 2012 09:21

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#3976
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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:34

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Iohanna wrote...

Guys, I need a little help with number 60.

The thing is, we don't know when in the timeline this fits at all. This could be after Invasion, for all we know. (Oh, and inb4 "This isn't in the timeline!" yeah, we know!)

Also, in Incursion, despite the Blue Suns having the deal with the Collectors, which she clearly disapproves of, she still allows the Blue Suns to stay afterward. The same thing could happen here in the case of Cerberus. Given, it's a much more serious (if personal) offense to her, but I don't know how far she'd let this slide if the profits from Cerberus were keeping Omega running. Then again, some group or individual as rich and powerful could easily take their place, and I'm sure there's no shortage of dodgy people willing to do so.

Given that she realizes Kai Leng was the one responsible, she could just as easily mount a manhunt for him and leave the rest of Cerberus alone. Right?


Aria isn't in the Omega after the events of Invasion.

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:36

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kylecouch wrote...

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Look Dietz got our message. On his FB profile someone asked him about some game and writting about ME. He answered 2 hours ago and ME part of question rather ignore. Where is his proud on this book?  Image IPB


Links or it didn't happen. /fivewordsentence


Agreed.

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:38

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ZLurps wrote...

Iohanna wrote...

Guys, I need a little help with number 60.

The thing is, we don't know when in the timeline this fits at all. This could be after Invasion, for all we know. (Oh, and inb4 "This isn't in the timeline!" yeah, we know!)

Also, in Incursion, despite the Blue Suns having the deal with the Collectors, which she clearly disapproves of, she still allows the Blue Suns to stay afterward. The same thing could happen here in the case of Cerberus. Given, it's a much more serious (if personal) offense to her, but I don't know how far she'd let this slide if the profits from Cerberus were keeping Omega running. Then again, some group or individual as rich and powerful could easily take their place, and I'm sure there's no shortage of dodgy people willing to do so.

Given that she realizes Kai Leng was the one responsible, she could just as easily mount a manhunt for him and leave the rest of Cerberus alone. Right?


Aria isn't in the Omega after the events of Invasion.

^ This - Invasion definitely takes place after Deception, that is absolutely certain.

How exactly would she have regained Omega back from Cerberus and then still proceed to do business with them? Additionally, the ending of Invasion states that Aria's story will be continued in Mass Effect 3 (and if Deception took place after ME3,  that would be the biggest clustf*** EVER...... :blink: )

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:38

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Indeed...invasion is...I believe...totaly taken over by the...things....I haven't read Invasion yet but I think thats what their going for. Which leads me to believe Shepard has to help her take it back in ME3...again I dont know the script so...dont debunk me with spoilers PLZ! lol

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:38

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ZLurps wrote...

Aria isn't in the Omega after the events of Invasion.


Oh yeah! Totally forgot about that part.

Well, the other part of the question still stands. :P

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:39

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On the intended timeline:

https://twitter.com/...936647164731392
@felipejiraya Arrival, Inquisition, Deception, Conviction, Invasion. More or less :).

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:40

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AVPen wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

Iohanna wrote...

Guys, I need a little help with number 60.

The thing is, we don't know when in the timeline this fits at all. This could be after Invasion, for all we know. (Oh, and inb4 "This isn't in the timeline!" yeah, we know!)

Also, in Incursion, despite the Blue Suns having the deal with the Collectors, which she clearly disapproves of, she still allows the Blue Suns to stay afterward. The same thing could happen here in the case of Cerberus. Given, it's a much more serious (if personal) offense to her, but I don't know how far she'd let this slide if the profits from Cerberus were keeping Omega running. Then again, some group or individual as rich and powerful could easily take their place, and I'm sure there's no shortage of dodgy people willing to do so.

Given that she realizes Kai Leng was the one responsible, she could just as easily mount a manhunt for him and leave the rest of Cerberus alone. Right?


Aria isn't in the Omega after the events of Invasion.

^ This - Invasion definitely takes place after Deception, that is highly certain.

How exactly would she have regained Omega back from Cerberus and then still proceed to do business with them? Additionally, the ending of Invasion states that Aria's story will be continued in Mass Effect 3 (and if Deception took place after ME3,  that would be the biggest clustf*** EVER...... :blink: )


Considering Shepard will likely kill Kai Leng...and POSSIBLY The Illusive Man?.....yea....totaly...

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:41

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kylecouch wrote...

Indeed...invasion is...I believe...totaly taken over by the...things....I haven't read Invasion yet but I think thats what their going for. Which leads me to believe Shepard has to help her take it back in ME3...again I dont know the script so...dont debunk me with spoilers PLZ! lol


To say something positive about this. This is so obvious conflict this would give BioWare a reason to remove Deception from canon. Especially if Invasion plot continues in ME3.

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:41

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didymos1120 wrote...

On the intended timeline:

https://twitter.com/...936647164731392
@felipejiraya Arrival, Inquisition, Deception, Conviction, Invasion. More or less :).



Am I the only one starting to get confused which name goes with which comic?........

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:42

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didymos1120 wrote...

On the intended timeline:

https://twitter.com/...936647164731392
@felipejiraya Arrival, Inquisition, Deception, Conviction, Invasion. More or less :).


:blink:

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:42

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didymos1120 wrote...

On the intended timeline:

https://twitter.com/...936647164731392
@felipejiraya Arrival, Inquisition, Deception, Conviction, Invasion. More or less :).


More or less because Deception DOESN'T MAKE ANY FLIPPING SENSE IN ANY TIMELINE EVER.

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:44

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kylecouch wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

On the intended timeline:

https://twitter.com/...936647164731392
@felipejiraya Arrival, Inquisition, Deception, Conviction, Invasion. More or less :).



Am I the only one starting to get confused which name goes with which comic?........


Inquisition is the mini-comic with Bailey.  Conviction is the mini-comic with Vega.

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:45

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Am I the only one starting to get confused which name goes with which comic?........


Inquisition - Bailey is protagonist
Conviction - Vega is recruited by Anderson
Invasion - Aria/Cerberus mess

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:46

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But Deception takes place three years after the Reapers invade. :P

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:46

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I must admit, I had to look up the names to connect them to the comics' events. It gets very confusing past a certain point.

Someone With Mass wrote...

But Deception takes place three years after the Reapers invade. :P


Damn you, don't you dare bring logic into this!

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:47

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Someone With Mass wrote...

But Deception takes place three years after the Reapers invade. :P


It also takes place before Mass Effect 2.

These statements are both supportable by time references that Dietz makes in the book.

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:47

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LPPrince wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

On the intended timeline:

https://twitter.com/...936647164731392
@felipejiraya Arrival, Inquisition, Deception, Conviction, Invasion. More or less :).


More or less because Deception DOESN'T MAKE ANY FLIPPING SENSE IN ANY TIMELINE EVER.


They should quickly slip in a page in the end that says "And then Kai Leng wakes up in his bed. It was all a dream. A terrible, nonsensical nightmare. But it's over now, and nothing happened. Huzzah and thanks for reading this mess." . It would be the best solution.

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:48

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Someone With Mass wrote...

But Deception takes place three years after the Reapers invade. :P

Well then, the galaxy is doing pretty f***ing well without Shepard helping them with the Reapers, aren't they? :P

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:48

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roflchoppaz wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

On the intended timeline:

https://twitter.com/...936647164731392
@felipejiraya Arrival, Inquisition, Deception, Conviction, Invasion. More or less :).


More or less because Deception DOESN'T MAKE ANY FLIPPING SENSE IN ANY TIMELINE EVER.


They should quickly slip in a page in the end that says "And then Kai Leng wakes up in his bed. It was all a dream. A terrible, nonsensical nightmare. But it's over now, and nothing happened. Huzzah and thanks for reading this mess." . It would be the best solution.


But then your avatar...

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:48

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Someone With Mass wrote...

But Deception takes place three years after the Reapers invade. :P



Please forgive him Goddess...he knows not what he says...

#3996
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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:49

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THE CEREAL IS A LIE! /somegamergirlwhoneverreadDeception

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:50

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LPPrince wrote...

But then your avatar...


*breathes in*

I will sacrifice it for the greater good.

Go! Slip in those notes! DO IT! FOR ALL OF US! FOR OUR SANITY!

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:50

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kylecouch wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

But Deception takes place three years after the Reapers invade. :P



Please forgive him Goddess...he knows not what he says...


Watch them not deal with this till after ME3 launches. Rofl

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:50

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Deception takes place two years after Mass Effect 1, and six years after Ascension, which takes place two months after Mass Effect 1. Reconcile that, Mac Walters.

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Posté 30 janvier 2012 - 05:51

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From what I've gleaned, I'm pretty sure its internal timeline doesn't make sense either.
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