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Mass Effect: Deception Discussion Thread (Updated 2/2/2012) *Now with 30% more links!*


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DuckSoup wrote...

I can't believe I've been reading a Mass Effect thread for the past 4 hours.


*kisses you on forehead*

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JoeLaTurkey wrote...

Can we start adding grammar failures to the list?


I was just thinking something similar. If the list gets any bigger it will have to be divided into sections.

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This is why I don't read expanded universe books. Because one writer writes something and then an entirely new writer says "nope didn't happen in my version".

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It's equal blame, Dietz agreed to do a job, has even given others advice on how to properly do tie-in games novels and failed to do so. Bioware is supposed to guard it's lore against such hack jobs.

Both failed equally.

I mean this amount of errors isn't acceptable for a first draft!

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 30 janvier 2012 - 09:58 .


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bennyjammin79 wrote...
 Yes, the female salarian is unusual but not improbable and therefore not a mistake.


The fact that over 90% of the species is male makes it improbable by definition.

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LPPrince wrote...

The PLC wrote...

AesirEdge wrote...

Whats the thing with the toothbrush? o.0?

You don't even want to know. Really, you don't.


Someone'll PM the guy.


Send me one too :P

#4632
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JoeLaTurkey wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

ODST 3 wrote...

Wow, that list of errors is severely embarrassing. It's like the whole book is completely wrong. I thought Revelation was pretty weak but this is a disgrace. They shouldn't have released this trash. I read another Dietz book before (I think it was Halo) and it was also crap.


The whole book IS WRONG.

Did you not see this? AND THE NEWEST COMMENTS.


Awesome comments :lol:


Also:  Top comment!


And my William C. Dietz comment on the first video is several thumbs up away from being a top rated comment.

WE HAVE TO BAND TOGETHER.

#4633
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Kai don't like aliens, that is why he is a racist. And he is fine with that.

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MJvasNormandy wrote...

Then he feels the need to "explain" that Kai Leng is an extremist/racist...Ya, thanks, Dietz. I would have never picked up on that had you not literally spelled it out. God forbid you develop the characters through their actions and thoughts, then allow the readers to conclude who these personalities are and what they stand for.

But you see, Dietz has to explain to you directly that Leng's a racist, otherwise you'd have no previous context as for the character's sudden OOC BS action of actively flirting with an asari stripper, cause hey... "Everyone loves the asari", right? =]

Oh god, f*** this s***.... :pinched:

Modifié par AVPen, 30 janvier 2012 - 10:00 .


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____ gets ____ at ______ so _____ kills _____ and then some _____ kills ______! Meanwhile, _____ gets killed with a _____ by ______! The end.

Fill in the blanks and you get a rough idea of how ridiculous the ending is.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 30 janvier 2012 - 10:03 .


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Heather Cline wrote...

This is why I don't read expanded universe books. Because one writer writes something and then an entirely new writer says "nope didn't happen in my version".


Drew's version is the real version, Dietz's version is a LIE.

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I guess if you imagine "eighteen" to read "sixteen" things would make more sense... but there are plenty of other errors in the preview as well....

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didymos1120 wrote...

bennyjammin79 wrote...
 Yes, the female salarian is unusual but not improbable and therefore not a mistake.


The fact that over 90% of the species is male makes it improbable by definition.


^Fact.

#4639
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Icinix wrote...

Deception is an amazing read.

The more you look at it, the more errors magically appear.


Some poor shmuck reading this "book."

/loloriginality

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LPPrince wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

I can't believe I've been reading a Mass Effect thread for the past 4 hours.


*kisses you on forehead*


:blush:

Don't get any crazy ideas, though. This doesn't mean I'll play the games or anything. 

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LPPrince wrote...

cgrimm54 wrote...

Hey, it's OUR canon. If anyone gets to mess with it, it's us, not some random hack.


Not some random HIRED hack. Who did it for money.


Not to accuse Dietz of being a hack (haven't read his stuff and have no opinion), but otherwise I have to agree. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Patryk Garrett hired because of the artwork he did as a fan? Wasn't there a poster in the FemShep thread (I can't remember who now) who was offered a job interview because of her fan videos? Why not, then, publish some of the good stuff on fanfiction.net, such as Interstitium?

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Dutch105 wrote...

I guess if you imagine "eighteen" to read "sixteen" things would make more sense... but there are plenty of other errors in the preview as well....


Actually 15. Gillian was 12 in 2183, so she should be 15, not 18.

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WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Dietz...tonight you will be visited by three ghosts...

Bioware Past
Bioware Present
And Bioware future

...and they will implore you desperately to remain out of all of them.


Instant classic.

#4644
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DuckSoup wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

I can't believe I've been reading a Mass Effect thread for the past 4 hours.


*kisses you on forehead*


:blush:

Don't get any crazy ideas, though. This doesn't mean I'll play the games or anything. 


I'll just imagine you do. My girl does though, so its all good.

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Don't know if someone else has made the comparison, but I can't help but think of TNA Impact when thinking of this book now. 

Think about it. 

They have old wrestlers you remember from way back when who were once good characters.  Not great, maybe, but good.  But when they've gone to this show, the writers write their characters in the most asinine fashion (UN)imaginable.  You know their names.  You know what they look like.  And yet they are COMPLETELY different.  Almost unrecognizable. 

There are storylines that are built up for weeks.  You get into it and are looking forward to its resolution.  And then, BAM!  It's gone.  Replaced by something a 5 year old would say is stupid. 

There are heel characters that turn babyface instantly and vice-versa.  Because shut-up-they-just-are-deal-with-it :whistle:

Sometimes a wrestler will change their mannerisms for no discernible reason.  Anyone remember Bubba-Ray Dudley back in the WWF when he first got there?  He struggled to speak without stuttering.  Then after a while it just...disappeared. 


You know what?  I'm calling it.  Right here.  Right now. 

William Dietz IS...



...Vince Russo.

#4646
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Arcadian Legend wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Dietz...tonight you will be visited by three ghosts...

Bioware Past
Bioware Present
And Bioware future

...and they will implore you desperately to remain out of all of them.


Instant classic.


Perfect lulz, as well. I want that quoted so many times.

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So people, how long before the spoilers come in?

Edit- Balmung31, you watch wrestling too?

Modifié par BatmanPWNS, 30 janvier 2012 - 10:02 .


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LPPrince wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

I can't believe I've been reading a Mass Effect thread for the past 4 hours.


*kisses you on forehead*


:blush:

Don't get any crazy ideas, though. This doesn't mean I'll play the games or anything. 


I'll just imagine you do. My girl does though, so its all good.


*sigh* Yes, it would make me more appealing. Don't I know it <_<

#4649
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Balmung31 wrote...

William Dietz IS...
...Vince Russo.


Vince Russo is fine as long as someone has him in CHECK. If not, he goes crazy. Hence, I don't watch TNA. I watch WWE.

WWE being Drew's books and TNA definitely being Dietz's.

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Since my last request got burried a couple of pages ago, could someone please copy-paste the spoilers to me in a PM ? Pretty squeaky please ? Don't deny a man's right to self-inflict injuries xD