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[efrgfhnm_]

No idea if this has been mentioned since I was last here about 80 pages ago, but I just noticed this on one of the early pages of the book "Plus many thanks to Casey Hudson, Mac Walters, and Tricia Pasternak for their advice and guidance."
He did say that some senior BW people had OKed this travesty right?

[AesirEdge]

Curunen wrote...
some cereal (no joke).

A great idea, kinda hungry myself, just need to decided from Command-O's or Admiral Andy.

[Fenris_13]

Chewin3 wrote...

Curunen wrote...

Damn, this is getting tense, I just had to go and get some cereal (no joke).

And now a dozen more pages materialise before my eyes! :0

You just can't say the word "cereal" anymore...

No one could take you "cereasly" then:lol:

[Ashira Shepard]

AesirEdge wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Aesir now knows about sharpened toothbrushes and their role in Deception.

My head hurts.

Someone please explain this to me in PMs because I am silly. 

[Maugrim]

JoeLaTurkey wrote...

You know, with the official release so close...I bet right now, out there in the world, a certain somebody is contemplating whether they should sticky this thread or start a new one

If a certain somebody does make a new thread I hope someone from here willing to keep their post updated manages to grab the first reply.  I doubt I'd be up early enough to do so but I'll be watching just in case.

[LPPrince]

TNA is WCW without a budget. Since I'm assuming Dietz was given ample money, lets assume he...nah, he's TNA. WCW was good at one point.

TNA never has been.

TNA is definitely Deception.

[didymos1120]

da hizz nizz 3 wrote...

Wow the Volus Mask problem just pissed me off. This book is ****!

Dietz seems to have gotten that from Revelation, and didn't bother to check further.  At the time it was written, volus did use breather masks instead of full exosuits. By the time the first game came out, however, they'd changed them into the  roly-poly mini-Vaders we know and love.

[ZLurps]

Yuoaman wrote...

So, for the organization of the Doc I'm thinking of doing something like splitting the list into sections like: Technology Errors, Character Inconsistencies, Lore Errors, and Timeline Errors - or something like that. Anyone else have thoughts on the matter?

If you could organise (in their gategories) in the order they appear in Deception would make things easier, like finding them and adding page numbers later.

[Eckswhyzed]

LPPrince wrote...

Idea from the wikia boys about the google doc-

Commdor wrote...

Idle thought: maybe they should consider splitting the list into two groups: actual errors (such as the quarian Ugho being alive in Deception when he died in Ascension) and discrepancies (Kai Leng attacking Gillian on his own with no backup in Deception when in Retribution he had a squad of Cerberus agents, and other stuff that isn't outright wrong or impossible).

I second this - it will stop a lot of the objections of "sure, it's unlikely but not impossible".

All I can say is WOW:blink:. I'm not exactly a literary critic (my idea of good fiction comes from Matthew Reilly, Tom Clancy and Lee Child) but even I found Deception pretty hard to stomach.

[LPPrince]

didymos1120 wrote...

da hizz nizz 3 wrote...

Wow the Volus Mask problem just pissed me off. This book is ****!

Dietz seems to have gotten that from Revelation, and didn't bother to check further.  At the time it was written, volus did use breather masks instead of full exosuits. By the time the first game came out, however, they'd changed them into the  roly-poly mini-Vaders we know and love.

Yeah, I don't blame him for that.

[LPPrince]

Eckswhyzed wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Idea from the wikia boys about the google doc-

Commdor wrote...

Idle thought: maybe they should consider splitting the list into two groups: actual errors (such as the quarian Ugho being alive in Deception when he died in Ascension) and discrepancies (Kai Leng attacking Gillian on his own with no backup in Deception when in Retribution he had a squad of Cerberus agents, and other stuff that isn't outright wrong or impossible).

I second this - it will stop a lot of the objections of "sure, it's unlikely but not impossible".

All I can say is WOW:blink:. I'm not exactly a literary critic (my idea of good fiction comes from Matthew Reilly, Tom Clancy and Lee Child) but even I found Deception pretty hard to stomach.

I'll agree as well. Divide and Conquer, afterall.

[bennyjammin79]

ZLurps wrote...

Benjamin, improbable or impossible, which it's going to be? You are changing your argument.

I'm not changing my argument. My wording yes, but not the argument itself. It comes down to the FACT that nowhere in any ME body of work does it state that salarian females don't ever go off world and seek other professions. I agree that it'd be extrememly rare to see a salarian female merc but it's not an impossibility.

And not an error.

[Chewin]

Yuoaman wrote...

So, for the organization of the Doc I'm thinking of doing something like splitting the list into sections like: Technology Errors, Character Inconsistencies, Lore Errors, and Timeline Errors - or something like that. Anyone else have thoughts on the matter?

As long as you put links to each section, then sure, it would "help" a lot.

[LPPrince]

Hello Man wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

So, for the organization of the Doc I'm thinking of doing something like splitting the list into sections like: Technology Errors, Character Inconsistencies, Lore Errors, and Timeline Errors - or something like that. Anyone else have thoughts on the matter?

Anything that makes it more "professional"

Yeah, so its easier to comprehend and check, especially for Biowarians.

[LPPrince]

bennyjammin79 wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

Benjamin, improbable or impossible, which it's going to be? You are changing your argument.

I'm not changing my argument. My wording yes, but not the argument itself. It comes down to the FACT that nowhere in any ME body of work does it state that salarian females don't ever go off world and seek other professions. I agree that it'd be extrememly rare to see a salarian female merc but it's not an impossibility.

And not an error.

You're not getting it. The problem isn't that she's out there, its that no one cares.

They act like its normal. Like its not something that's rare as hell and shocking.

[HiroVoid]

LPPrince wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

da hizz nizz 3 wrote...

Wow the Volus Mask problem just pissed me off. This book is ****!

Dietz seems to have gotten that from Revelation, and didn't bother to check further.  At the time it was written, volus did use breather masks instead of full exosuits. By the time the first game came out, however, they'd changed them into the  roly-poly mini-Vaders we know and love.

Yeah, I don't blame him for that.

But wouldn't having played just one of the games, let alone both, corrected that.  I would think playing both games would be a requirement to write the novel.  It's like how I'd be worried about someone writing a Star Wars novel without watching the original trilogy.

[LPPrince]

Chewin3 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

So, for the organization of the Doc I'm thinking of doing something like splitting the list into sections like: Technology Errors, Character Inconsistencies, Lore Errors, and Timeline Errors - or something like that. Anyone else have thoughts on the matter?

As long as you put links to each section, then sure, it would "help" a lot.

Dividing it would be fine in the same Doc, with the right formatting everything should be spiffy.

[ODST 3]

Dietz wrote...

11. The Citadel is described as being star shaped

For sh*t's sake. I bet he looked at some clips from the game on YouTube and thought the Destiny Ascension was the Citadel.

[LPPrince]

HiroVoid wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

da hizz nizz 3 wrote...

Wow the Volus Mask problem just pissed me off. This book is ****!

Dietz seems to have gotten that from Revelation, and didn't bother to check further.  At the time it was written, volus did use breather masks instead of full exosuits. By the time the first game came out, however, they'd changed them into the  roly-poly mini-Vaders we know and love.

Yeah, I don't blame him for that.

But wouldn't having played just one of the games, let alone both, corrected that.  I would think playing both games would be a requirement to write the novel.  It's like how I'd be worried about someone writing a Star Wars novel without watching the original trilogy.

I agree with that though.

He should've been made to play the games, thing is if he's doing it against his will or doesn't like the games, he won't be emotionally involved like Drew was.

[LPPrince]

ODST 3 wrote...

Dietz wrote...

11. The Citadel is described as being star shaped

For sh*t's sake. I bet he looked at some clips from the game on YouTube and thought the Destiny Ascension was the Citadel.

Now that would be funny. Even funnier because the Destiny Ascension IS huge.

[Yuoaman]

Alright, here's a proposed style for the list:


Errors
(Errors would be things that are absolutely wrong and have evidence that can be found in previous works, like the games and Drew's novels.)

*Technology
(Errors involving the portrayal of technology and biotics and the like that don't match up with what we've learned in the past.)

*Characters
(Inconsistencies in the characterization of established characters.)

*Timeline
(Any errors related to the messed up time scale that this book is quickly becoming famous for.)

Oddities
(Errors that are more ambiguous, and can't be conclusively proven to be errors, but are still wrong - example: Kai Leng not having a squad with him.)

*All the same categories.

[LGTX]

Every time I come back to this thread it appears to have foregone a geometric rate of growth. Which is great, because I hope beyond all hopes that Bioware takes notes. To put it lightly...

[LPPrince]

Anyone send Ashira a PM yet?