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#4776
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still silence from above?

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Balmung31 wrote...

You know, I'd love to know how Dietz was selected.  What did they look for on all the resumes when deciding who to pass the book off to?  What made Dietz the final choice compared to the others?  Did they look at reviews of his previous books?  I can't imagine the reviews were all that stellar from what others have said here about them. 

I know, I know.  They'll never tell. 


But they should.



That would be a cool detail.

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Its still mine boggling how something can be screwed up so badly. Was he trying? I mean really.


Just imagine the surprise at BioWare when they received the first draft of Deception.


So surprised... and utterly appalled... that they let it be published. 


Dietz actually wrote back to someone asking about Deception that BioWare suggested numerous changes.

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crimzontearz wrote...

still silence from above?


Yezzir.

Like I said several times in the past, don't expect anything till tomorrow.

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ZLurps wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

Hello Man wrote...

Its still mine boggling how something can be screwed up so badly. Was he trying? I mean really.


Just imagine the surprise at BioWare when they received the first draft of Deception.


So surprised... and utterly appalled... that they let it be published. 


Dietz actually wrote back to someone asking about Deception that BioWare suggested numerous changes.


Pinning the blame elsewhere?

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I have a theory on how it got past bioware...but I can't post it yet due to spoilers. I have a nagging feeling that I'm right, unfortunately.

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Balmung31 wrote...

You know, I'd love to know how Dietz was selected.  What did they look for on all the resumes when deciding who to pass the book off to?  What made Dietz the final choice compared to the others?  Did they look at reviews of his previous books?  I can't imagine the reviews were all that stellar from what others have said here about them. 

I know, I know.  They'll never tell. 


But they should.



 I know plenty of other qualified authors even if Drew was still busy. I don't think this really matters anymore if who was capable I now believe authors have to be watched constantly because it seemed like Bioware was phasing in and out when watching Dietz.

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AngusJimiKeith wrote...

I have a theory on how it got past bioware...but I can't post it yet due to spoilers. I have a nagging feeling that I'm right, unfortunately.


If thar be spoilers, wait another 6 or so hours.

If its an ME3 spoiler, just don't say it. Ever.

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Hello Man wrote...

Balmung31 wrote...

You know, I'd love to know how Dietz was selected.  What did they look for on all the resumes when deciding who to pass the book off to?  What made Dietz the final choice compared to the others?  Did they look at reviews of his previous books?  I can't imagine the reviews were all that stellar from what others have said here about them. 

I know, I know.  They'll never tell. 


But they should.



 I know plenty of other qualified authors even if Drew was still busy. I don't think this really matters anymore if who was capable I now believe authors have to be watched constantly because it seemed like Bioware was phasing in and out when watching Dietz.


I would've pulled Drew out of SWTOR and brought him back here.

Hell, SWTOR is tanking anyway.

Lets not let the ME novels go down with it.

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You know, for a thread never stickied, we're doing one hell of a job.

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LPPrince wrote...

Hello Man wrote...

Balmung31 wrote...

You know, I'd love to know how Dietz was selected.  What did they look for on all the resumes when deciding who to pass the book off to?  What made Dietz the final choice compared to the others?  Did they look at reviews of his previous books?  I can't imagine the reviews were all that stellar from what others have said here about them. 

I know, I know.  They'll never tell. 


But they should.



 I know plenty of other qualified authors even if Drew was still busy. I don't think this really matters anymore if who was capable I now believe authors have to be watched constantly because it seemed like Bioware was phasing in and out when watching Dietz.


I would've pulled Drew out of SWTOR and brought him back here.

Hell, SWTOR is tanking anyway.

Lets not let the ME novels go down with it.


I would've begged Drew to come back too. Star Wars is cool and all but its not as rich compared to Mass Effect.

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ZLurps wrote...

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ZLurps wrote...

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Its still mine boggling how something can be screwed up so badly. Was he trying? I mean really.


Just imagine the surprise at BioWare when they received the first draft of Deception.


So surprised... and utterly appalled... that they let it be published. 


Dietz actually wrote back to someone asking about Deception that BioWare suggested numerous changes.


That he... blatantly chose to ignore, presumably? Or... did Bioware gingerly suggest and then back down because they didn't think anyone would notice in the end? I bet there were hissy fits and tantrums. 

Modifié par DuckSoup, 30 janvier 2012 - 10:51 .


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LPPrince wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

Hello Man wrote...

Its still mine boggling how something can be screwed up so badly. Was he trying? I mean really.


Just imagine the surprise at BioWare when they received the first draft of Deception.


So surprised... and utterly appalled... that they let it be published. 


Dietz actually wrote back to someone asking about Deception that BioWare suggested numerous changes.


Pinning the blame elsewhere?


I don't know what to think. I don't know if I would be even surprised anymore if someone from BioWare made a post like "Uh... there is some sort of error here. We do not know who this person is and the novel... Nobody actually remembers who authorised this. Umm... We very busy at the time preparing ME3 to ship so we get back to you very soon about this."

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LPPrince wrote...

You know, for a thread never stickied, we're doing one hell of a job.


Give it time...the official floodgates are currently closed   :devil:

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LPPrince wrote...

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

I have a theory on how it got past bioware...but I can't post it yet due to spoilers. I have a nagging feeling that I'm right, unfortunately.


If thar be spoilers, wait another 6 or so hours.

If its an ME3 spoiler, just don't say it. Ever.


Hence why I didn't post it yet :P. No ME3 spoilers; I've avoided those like the plague.

....I also lurk for extremely long periods of time and then post out of absolutely nowhere, so if said theory never gets posted, well....yeah.

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 Hell even Tazzik, gets more of a reaction than this merc.


I have no problem with Taz. People actually comment on his unusual size.

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ZLurps wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

Hello Man wrote...

Its still mine boggling how something can be screwed up so badly. Was he trying? I mean really.


Just imagine the surprise at BioWare when they received the first draft of Deception.


So surprised... and utterly appalled... that they let it be published. 


Dietz actually wrote back to someone asking about Deception that BioWare suggested numerous changes.

Something tells me he didn't really listen.

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Somehow the people making the decision to approve the book managed not to include any writers

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 30 janvier 2012 - 10:51 .


#4794
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JoeLaTurkey wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

You know, for a thread never stickied, we're doing one hell of a job.


Give it time...the official floodgates are currently closed   :devil:


We've got more posts in here in a fraction of the time than some very well known stickied threads.

We rock. We're really making this happen.

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didymos1120 wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

 Hell even Tazzik, gets more of a reaction than this merc.


I have no problem with Taz. People actually comment on his unusual size.


Isn't Tazzik still alive?

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DuckSoup wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

Hello Man wrote...

Its still mine boggling how something can be screwed up so badly. Was he trying? I mean really.


Just imagine the surprise at BioWare when they received the first draft of Deception.


So surprised... and utterly appalled... that they let it be published. 


Dietz actually wrote back to someone asking about Deception that BioWare suggested numerous changes.


That he... blantantly chose to ignore, presumably? Or... did Bioware gingerly suggest and then back down because they didn't think anyone would notice in the end? I bet there were hissy fits and tantrums. 


If think of possibility that first draft was what we got, well that would explain a lot. Then, why in the world would BioWare shoot themself to the foot by letting this to be published without checking. I really don't know what to think.

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ZLurps wrote...

Dietz actually wrote back to someone asking about Deception that BioWare suggested numerous changes.


Which means there were actually even more errors at one point.  I'm still going with the theory that after a while, they just gave up the effort as futile.

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Hello Man wrote...

More importantly to me which has been stated many times. How in God's green Earth did this get past Bioware!

I really do hope someone says something.


Maybe Bioware were all too busy with ME3 and didnt get round to reading through it. Just assumed it would be ok

I mean Casey Hudson knows the universe pretty well, Im sure he would have picked up on some of this stuff if he had actually read it.

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LPPrince wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

Hello Man wrote...

Its still mine boggling how something can be screwed up so badly. Was he trying? I mean really.


Just imagine the surprise at BioWare when they received the first draft of Deception.


So surprised... and utterly appalled... that they let it be published. 


Dietz actually wrote back to someone asking about Deception that BioWare suggested numerous changes.


Pinning the blame elsewhere?


Seems the most likely thing he'll do.  Don't know what other reason he could come up with to explain this travesty. 

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didymos1120 wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

Dietz actually wrote back to someone asking about Deception that BioWare suggested numerous changes.


Which means there were actually even more errors at one point.  I'm still going with the theory that after a while, they just gave up the effort as futile.


But money could've been gained, so rather than cancel, they went through with it?

Laaame if so.