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didymos1120

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bobobo878 wrote...

I just finished the extended preview, and I didn't read anything about cereal or tooth brushes. : (


People found that stuff by searching the text on Google Books.

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LPPrince

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Second highest rated comment on that video, WOO!

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didymos1120 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

I just finished the extended preview, and I didn't read anything about cereal or tooth brushes. : (


People found that stuff by searching the text on Google Books.


Bobobo, you need the full book for those goodies, or spoilers.

Many spoilers will be dropped once midnight strikes here on the East Coast.

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LPPrince wrote...

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Karin Weekes says she's aware of whats going on here but can't comment yet.

Yet.

Told y'all.


I imagine that the writers can't be very happy about the book. 


I imagine the reception was something like this:




Nah, we already know. Its been posted before. The REAL reactions of all of us.


I am quite aware. But I needed an excuse to liken Deception to an exploding Atlas. Actually, there are several scenes in that movie that might fit....

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Dear God. We're too good at this.

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SolidBeast wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

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This thread moves way too fast for me. Can anyone tell me which quest is Aria hitting Anto with a datapad from? I need to go ingame and record it.


Archangel: Datapad recovered.


Thanks. This is gonna be one damn fast walkthrough.

edit: Thanks HeroVoid.

edit2: thanks everyone :D


Btw, I think you could make an awesome datapad gif from that asari merc at the end of Samara's recruitment mission as well (the one that sips on wine while reading that datapad).


I've had that one in mind already :D Although, with my Sony Vegas skills, I'm actually putting the Deception cover in frame by individual frame in Photoshop. So it's gonna take a while. There's also one scene where TIM reads a datapad, but I can't remember where in the game I've seen that. Help, anyone?


I would like to help you out, but my video editing skills are insufficient. Sorry.

Also, for that asari merc scene, if you could somehow make her spit out that wine while she is reading Deception, that would make it beyond all comedy. :happy:

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didymos1120 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Karin Weekes says she's aware of whats going on here but can't comment yet.

Yet.

Told y'all.


I imagine that the writers can't be very happy about the book. 


I don't know how much of the original team is left but those who just spend time since 2006, perhaps 2005 building up the franchise might be a bit displeased.

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The Doc's been reorganized, everyone - all that remains now is to renumber it. Good times.

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As hillarious as some of this is,  I do want point out that you can look to hard for errors.  For example:

"76. A salarian is said to have “Big , luminous eyes” - Salarian eyes do not glow. [Error: Lore]"


To me that simply sounds like an adjective descibing that individual Salarian's eyes.   Like being told you have "glittering eyes" or "radiant eyes" doesnt mean a humans eyes really glitter or radiate.   I really doubt they mean to change lore to say Salarian eyes are now luminous with that one word. 

I can only however read those three words.  If someone can say otherwise with more to support it, fair enough. To me though the word "luminous" simply sounds like an adjective and not a lore error.  

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ZLurps wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Karin Weekes says she's aware of whats going on here but can't comment yet.

Yet.

Told y'all.


I imagine that the writers can't be very happy about the book. 


I don't know how much of the original team is left but those who just spend time since 2006, perhaps 2005 building up the franchise might be a bit displeased.


A bit? A BIT?

HAHAHA, I'd bet they are veeery displeased.

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Relix28 wrote...

Also, for that asari merc scene, if you could somehow make her spit out that wine while she is reading Deception, that would make it beyond all comedy. :happy:


Relix, you are so good.

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nvm.

Modifié par Arcadian Legend, 30 janvier 2012 - 11:28 .


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Relix28 wrote...

I would like to help you out, but my video editing skills are insufficient. Sorry.

Also, for that asari merc scene, if you could somehow make her spit out that wine while she is reading Deception, that would make it beyond all comedy. :happy:


Hehe, I'm not asking for help with editing, I've got that covered. I just need to know which point in the game TIM holds a datapad. :D

As for the merc, I'll see what I can do, I need to learn how to do that first, so no promises.

Modifié par SolidBeast, 30 janvier 2012 - 11:28 .


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Yuoaman wrote...

The Doc's been reorganized, everyone - all that remains now is to renumber it. Good times.


Thanks! Looks good to me. * thumb up*

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What about the intro, when Miranda hands him one? If I recall correctly.

Modifié par ddv.rsa, 30 janvier 2012 - 11:28 .


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ZLurps wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

The Doc's been reorganized, everyone - all that remains now is to renumber it. Good times.


Thanks! Looks good to me. * thumb up*


Yeah, and I let the wikia boys know we got them covered.

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Arcadian Legend wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

I just finished the extended preview, and I didn't read anything about cereal or tooth brushes. : (


People found that stuff by searching the text on Google Books.


Bobobo, you need the full book for those goodies, or spoilers.

Many spoilers will be dropped once midnight strikes here on the East Coast.


I know. We're setting an impossible standard. 


This is so ridiculously awesome, and I'm so glad I'm sharing this moment with all you guys.

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ddv.rsa wrote...

What about the intro, when Miranda hands him one? If I recall correctly.


Him being who, Wilson?

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Captain Crash wrote...

As hillarious as some of this is,  I do want point out that you can look to hard for errors.  For example:

"76. A salarian is said to have “Big , luminous eyes” - Salarian eyes do not glow. [Error: Lore]"


To me that simply sounds like an adjective descibing that individual Salarian's eyes.   Like being told you have "glittering eyes" or "radiant eyes" doesnt mean a humans eyes really glitter or radiate.   I really doubt they mean to change lore to say Salarian eyes are now luminous with that one word. 

I can only however read those three words.  If someone can say otherwise with more to support it, fair enough. To me though the word "luminous" simply sounds like an adjective and not a lore error.  


Not sure about this but IIRC this was brought up earlier and it looked like Dietz actually got it wrong because there were severel mentions of those luminous eyes in the book. Again, I'm not 100% sure about this.

Modifié par ZLurps, 30 janvier 2012 - 11:31 .


#4920
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At this rate we'll hit over 1000 posts in this topic just today.

We're on fire. Why?

Because WE ALL GIVE A DAMN.

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Captain Crash wrote...

As hillarious as some of this is,  I do want point out that you can look to hard for errors.  For example:

"76. A salarian is said to have “Big , luminous eyes” - Salarian eyes do not glow. [Error: Lore]"


To me that simply sounds like an adjective descibing that individual Salarian's eyes.   Like being told you have "glittering eyes" or "radiant eyes" doesnt mean a humans eyes really glitter or radiate.   I really doubt they mean to change lore to say Salarian eyes are now luminous with that one word. 

I can only however read those three words.  If someone can say otherwise with more to support it, fair enough. To me though the word "luminous" simply sounds like an adjective and not a lore error.  


The point isn't to judge intent or explain how or why something ended up wrong.  It's simply to catalogue when something conflicts with established facts.  And a salarian with glowing eyes does.  And it doesn't make sense from a more metaphorical POV anyway.  Salarians just don't have brightly colored eyes.  Most are jet black.

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Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

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Someone needs to go back, find Raf's post about his autistic sister, and post it again.

Found it:

That Guy Raffy wrote...

As someone with a sister who is severely Autistic, I'm really hurt that a writer would make a character say some snot like, "Oh, I grew out of it." No. You don't grow out of Autism. It's a disorder that nobody grows out of. Ever. After 20 years of living with her, growing up with her, feeding her, and partially raising her myself alongside my parents she hasn't improved at all. She still has the mentality of a 1 year old, the vocabulary of someone younger than that, and the social skills worse than a 2 year old's. Sure, some people might grow out of other disorders like "Social Anxiety" or "ADHD" but Autism is incurable. If Autism isn't curable by 218X, you darn well can't "grow out of it."

Maybe this was all a bit unfair for me to say because my sister wouldn't be able to understand this conversation, much less cry about it because of her Autism... Actually it might be fair; because if she was able to "grow out" of her Autistic phase in 3 years, she would've already been talking to me about how hurt she would be about a science fiction book.


That needs to be read by EVERYONE.


This. Demeans a character and thye real life sufferers.


I seriously hope BioWare see this.


Just saw this. Thanks for the support guys. Other than Deception being y'know, a cruddy book, hopefully it'll raise awareness on how to treat autism in literature.

Modifié par That Guy Raffy, 30 janvier 2012 - 11:30 .


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LPPrince wrote...

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What about the intro, when Miranda hands him one? If I recall correctly.


Him being who, Wilson?


TIM. As soon as the game starts. Let me go check.

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LPPrince wrote...

Dear God. We're too good at this.


I know, we're setting an impossible standard here.

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Perhaps we can get the Wikia guys to help protest this? Get them to delete all entries related to Deception or something? Get the point across to Bioware that we don't want this to exist as canon?