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[Heimdall]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

So, who noticed that Kotaku is actually sort of making fun of nerds nitpicking a book, than showing how flawed the book is?

Just sayin.

I thought it was a bit of both.

[NubXL]

Really glad I didn't pre-order this thing. I had reservations after seeing it was being written by someone new, and that Gillian's autism had apparently just cleared up on its own judging by the retcon in Amazon's summary. Didn't know it was going to be this bad, though. That's unfortunate.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. There was no reason to use anyone other than Karpyshyn.

[JoeLaTurkey]

We've a professional opinion here:

[didymos1120]

Dwailing wrote...

Did you quote that from memory? If so, awesome!

No. Copy-pasted it from  the game's TLK file (there's a tool someone made that converts it into XML).

Modifié par didymos1120, 31 janvier 2012 - 04:26 .

[Yuoaman]

JoeLaTurkey wrote...

We've a professional opinion here:

You've got to love Statler and Waldorf.

[ElitePinecone]

I have to go look at museums now (o_o) but before we're allowed to post spoilers, I want to preemptively say that the ending did a complete disservice to Karpyshyn's characters, and turned what was a mediocre book full of errors into something I actively want out of the canon (well, if it was ever in there in the first place, with the timeline issues).

It feels like Bioware handed him a brief saying "get rid of these characters somehow, oh and give Kai Leng an upgrade, because that's in ME3".

Deception handled the continuity and characters of previous novels appallingly. The way it ended was abysmal. The motivations of the 'protagonists' were nonsensical.

If or when we can post spoilers, I want to point out that using a female character we met in one scene as an excuse for what happens to two other major characters is ridiculous.

And Kahlee's line on seeing it all: "Why you rotten bastard, I ought to..." take the cake for being the most inappropriate thing, given the circumstances, that I think I've ever read in a written piece of literature.

[izmirtheastarach]

didymos1120 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Did you quote that from memory? If so, awesome!

No. Copy-pasted it from  the game's TLK file (there's a tool someone made that converts it into XML).

You are a special person.

[AlphaJarmel]

Going through this thread, I'm starting to feel this is going to end up as circle-bashing. Yes the book is god awful and atrocious but does it really need to be repeated again and again and again? Bioware is almost certainly going to ignore it canonically as they do everything else. It just seems like you're beating a dead horse at a certain point.

[Yuoaman]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Going through this thread, I'm starting to feel this is going to end up as circle-bashing. Yes the book is god awful and atrocious but does it really need to be repeated again and again and again? Bioware is almost certainly going to ignore it canonically as they do everything else. It just seems like you're beating a dead horse at a certain point.

It does deserve this - the horse is not dead enough.

[AlphaJarmel]

Yuoaman wrote...

It does deserve this - the horse is not dead enough.

It's all over the internet how absolute **** the book is, even by videogame novel standards.  I mean what more is there?

Modifié par AlphaJarmel, 31 janvier 2012 - 04:31 .

[Dwailing]

didymos1120 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Did you quote that from memory? If so, awesome!

No. Copy-pasted it from  the game's TLK file (there's a tool someone made that converts it into XML).

Cool!  I just recognized that you're the guy who did all the unused audio from ME2.  Cool stuff man.  It is great to be chatting with such awesome people. 

P.S. Hope I don't sound like Conrad, just expressing how great it is to be doing this.

[Heimdall]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Going through this thread, I'm starting to feel this is going to end up as circle-bashing. Yes the book is god awful and atrocious but does it really need to be repeated again and again and again? Bioware is almost certainly going to ignore it canonically as they do everything else. It just seems like you're beating a dead horse at a certain point.

We're just rejoicing in one of the few moments virtually every person on BSN agrees on something.  Also, we're hoping Bioware takes notice and declares it non-canon.

[XXIceColdXX]

Awesome work guys getting Kotaku to notice all this.

Hopefully if we keep at it here, it will give Bioware a wake up call to start protecting their own Mass Effect lore, which in turn will help them out in keeping their own franchise stronger!

[didymos1120]

ElitePinecone wrote...

And Kahlee's line on seeing it all: "Why you rotten bastard, I ought to..." take the cake for being the most inappropriate thing, given the circumstances, that I think I've ever read in a written piece of literature.

Well, a close second has to be this, which occurs right after Anderson and Kahlee just got finished looking at a bunch of corpses in the C-Sec morgue to make sure none of them were Nick:

Kahlee smiled as they strolled out into the artificial sunlight. “A naughty admiral. I like it. Come on,” she said. “I’m in the mood for an asari stir-fry tonight.”

He grinned. “And for dessert?”

“That,” Kahlee said, “is for me to know and for you to find out.”

[AVPen]

Oh yes, and for those individuals who were wondering if Udina ever gets "named" in this novel as human Councilor (since he wasn't at the beginning)?

He doesn't.... not even at the end of it.
Fail.

[izmirtheastarach]

To be frank, if we get any kind of acknowledgment from anyone at Bioware, I will consider this horse beating to be a success. In many ways it has already been a success. We've help a lot of people to make an informed decision about purchasing this book. I plan to build on that by keeping on top of Amazon to do the same thing there. Really after we had the first couple of people come in and thank us all for steering them clear of it, I felt pretty happy.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 31 janvier 2012 - 04:32 .

[Yuoaman]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

It does deserve this - the horse is not dead enough.

It's all over the internet how absolute **** the book is, even by videogame novel standards.  I mean what more is there?

We need something from Bioware.

[Heimdall]

didymos1120 wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

And Kahlee's line on seeing it all: "Why you rotten bastard, I ought to..." take the cake for being the most inappropriate thing, given the circumstances, that I think I've ever read in a written piece of literature.

Well, a close second has to be this, which occurs right after Anderson and Kahlee just got finished looking at a bunch of corpses in the C-Sec morgue to make sure none of them were Nick:

Kahlee smiled as they strolled out into the artificial sunlight. “A naughty admiral. I like it. Come on,” she said. “I’m in the mood for an asari stir-fry tonight.”

He grinned. “And for dessert?”

“That,” Kahlee said, “is for me to know and for you to find out.”

... What the hell?

[Maugrim]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

It does deserve this - the horse is not dead enough.

It's all over the internet how absolute **** the book is, even by videogame novel standards.  I mean what more is there?

We can stop shortly after the sadly unaware stop walking in here posting that if they had known the book was so bad they never would have ordered it.  I was one of the lucky ones who canceled it in time.

[HeliusCarthaxis]

I would like to point out one error on the error list, number 10. Turians do not possess the largest fleet in the galaxy, the Quarians do. Rather, I believe its that they have the largest fleet in Citadel space.

[HiroVoid]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

It does deserve this - the horse is not dead enough.

It's all over the internet how absolute **** the book is, even by videogame novel standards.  I mean what more is there?

Waiting until everyone who bought the book comes around?

[JoeLaTurkey]

didymos1120 wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

And Kahlee's line on seeing it all: "Why you rotten bastard, I ought to..." take the cake for being the most inappropriate thing, given the circumstances, that I think I've ever read in a written piece of literature.

Well, a close second has to be this, which occurs right after Anderson and Kahlee just got finished looking at a bunch of corpses in the C-Sec morgue to make sure none of them were Nick:

Kahlee smiled as they strolled out into the artificial sunlight. “A naughty admiral. I like it. Come on,” she said. “I’m in the mood for an asari stir-fry tonight.”

He grinned. “And for dessert?”

“That,” Kahlee said, “is for me to know and for you to find out.”