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Mass Effect: Deception Discussion Thread (Updated 2/2/2012) *Now with 30% more links!*


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#5676
Yuoaman

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Zhuinden wrote...

Sorry, it really is not obvious. Nick is just knocked out.

SPOILER CITY: The death of Nick (serves him right, killing Hendel like that.. -.-)

“It’s Hendel,” he said. “And Nick.”
Kahlee uttered an involuntary gasp as she looked at what remained of Hendel’s face. He’d been shot at point- blank range. A pistol was laying not far from Nick’s out- flung hand, and Anderson was in the process of removing a second weapon from one of the boy’s holsters, as Kahlee dropped to one knee. She felt for a pulse. “I think he’s alive. Nick? Can you
hear me? It’s Kahlee Sanders.”
Anderson removed the canteen that was clipped to his belt and splashed some water onto the boy’s face.
Nick’s eyelids fluttered and popped open. He stared upward for a moment, as if reluctant to believe what he was seeing, and blinked. “Miss Sanders? I should have known that if Mr. Mitra was here you would be too.”
“How do you feel?”
“Bad . . . Real bad. But it doesn’t matter. Mr. Mitra killed Marisa.”
Kahlee remembered what Hendel had told her, about seeing Nick with a girl, and guessed the rest.
“So you shot him?”
“Yeah . . . I was angry.”
“I’m sorry to hear that Nick. Hendel was a fine man and he deserved better. Especially from a person he was trying to help.”
Nick looked like he might cry.
“Where’s Gillian? Was she involved in the fighting?”
Nick shook his head. “No. We have a prisoner. A Cerberus agent named Leng. Gillian took him away just before the attack. The Illusive Man is going to pay millions of credits to get him back.”
The mention of Leng and the Illusive Man triggered mental alarms for both Kahlee and Anderson.
Their eyes met momentarily before returning to Nick.
“Just before the attack?” Anderson demanded.
“Yes.”
“Nick, where did they go? Where is the hand over?”
“At the crematorium,” Nick said. “Miss Sanders
. . . My parents. Tell them . . .”
“Yes?”
Nick jerked spasmodically as a shot rang out. Both
Kahlee and Anderson looked up to see Immo standing
about a meter away with a pistol in his hand.


That is the most stilted dialog I've ever seen.

This just keeps getting worse.

#5677
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izmirtheastarach wrote...

“I’m sorry to hear that Nick. Hendel was a fine man and he deserved better. Especially from a person he was trying to help.”


NICK, I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN YOUR FOR KILLING YOUR TEACHER. THAT IS A BAD THING TO DO.

I KNOW, RIGHT?!  What the hell is going on here?  This stuff is almost too bad to be real.

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bleetman wrote...

I know that's not what it meant, but I have to wonder if T'loak's adepts dinged to level four. Nick probably gave a ton of XP.


More like this

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

“I’m sorry to hear that Nick. Hendel was a fine man and he deserved better. Especially from a person he was trying to help.”


NICK, I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN YOUR FOR KILLING YOUR TEACHER. THAT IS A BAD THING TO DO.

But he was angry!

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HeliusCarthaxis wrote...

Zhuinden wrote...

SPOILER CITY: The Death of Hendel

“Mr. Mitra!” Nick exclaimed. “What are you doing here? You
killed Marisa!”

Fighting raged all around and Hendel was dimly
aware of a ground- shaking BOOM as he propped
himself up on his elbows. “Marisa? Was she your
girlfriend?”

“Yes, damn you . . . We were going to get married.”

“I’m sorry,” Hendel said. “But you brought this on
yourself. Remember what Kahlee and I taught you?
Those who use their biotic powers to hurt people will
pay. It’s just a matter of time.”

“You bastard,” Nick said through gritted teeth.
“You rotten bastard. First you kill Marisa and then
you have the balls to claim that it’s my fault. Goodbye,
Mr. Mitra. You can preach to the people in hell.”

“Where is Gillian,” Hendel demanded. “Is she
alive?”

He saw the spark, but didn’t live long enough to
hear the report, or feel the projectile smash into his
forehead. Nor did Hendel see one of T’Loak’s Level 3
adepts smash Nick to the ground. Their bodies lay
two meters apart.


What the...that's...the most useless, unfeeling, poorly-written death scene I've ever had the misfortune in reading. The dialogue is so akward in and of itself to make me squirm in my seat, barring any of the other crap surrounding it.:sick:


Agreed. Its terrible

#5681
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bleetman wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

“I’m sorry to hear that Nick. Hendel was a fine man and he deserved better. Especially from a person he was trying to help.”


NICK, I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN YOUR FOR KILLING YOUR TEACHER. THAT IS A BAD THING TO DO.

But he was angry!


But he killed some girl whose name I can't remember.

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Moral of the story: Wait, you actually read the story to the end? What's wrong with you!

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I fixed the prolouge (paraphrasing wise)

Batarians, on a moon within a batarian colony, have obtained the DNA device. Kai Leng leads a group of Cerberus elites into the facility to destroy the DNA device and any other information about it. He succedes and returns to back to base.

Fix'd the whole batarian-homeworld issue

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

bleetman wrote...

I know that's not what it meant, but I have to wonder if T'loak's adepts dinged to level four. Nick probably gave a ton of XP.


More like this


More like this one here.

And how long did Nick actually know that Marisa girl for? Really?

#5685
izmirtheastarach

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KnightOfTwo wrote...

Moral of the story: Wait, you actually read the story to the end? What's wrong with you!


The moral of the story is: Biotic teenagers are really stupid.

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I know this series has always had its flaws, but I never truly believed it has gone horribly wrong as a whole. Top this with the ton of implausable comebacks Cerberus makes and the several inconsistencies from ME2 and I'm just finding it harder and harder to believe in this franchise.

This is just a disgrace. I can't believe Bioware would allow such sloppy work.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 31 janvier 2012 - 05:56 .


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Good god. Know I really know not to read this book. Seeing that deitz brought in comparing biotics with levels. UGHHHH!!!! what a turd.

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Yuoaman wrote...

And how long did Nick actually know that Marisa girl for? Really?


OH MY GOD I JUST LOOKED THIS UP.

AFTER HE MEETS HER AND IMMEDIATLY KISSES HER AND FALLS IN LOVE WITH HER SHE IS LITERALLY NOT MENTIONED AGAIN UNTIL SHE IS KILLED.

I AM NOT KIDDING.

#5689
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izmirtheastarach wrote...

KnightOfTwo wrote...

Moral of the story: Wait, you actually read the story to the end? What's wrong with you!


The moral of the story is: Biotic teenagers are really stupid.


Especially when they are several years older than they actually are. :unsure:

#5690
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izmirtheastarach wrote...

KnightOfTwo wrote...

Moral of the story: Wait, you actually read the story to the end? What's wrong with you!


The moral of the story is: Biotic teenagers are really stupid.


Moral of the story: Sorry for wasting your time and money, but thanks for your money.

or

don't buy video gaming novels

#5691
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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

And how long did Nick actually know that Marisa girl for? Really?


OH MY GOD I JUST LOOKED THIS UP.

AFTER HE MEETS HER AND IMMEDIATLY KISSES HER AND FALLS IN LOVE WITH HER SHE IS LITERALLY NOT MENTIONED AGAIN UNTIL SHE IS KILLED.

I AM NOT KIDDING.


WTFFFFFFFFFFFF?!!!!:blink:

#5692
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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

And how long did Nick actually know that Marisa girl for? Really?


OH MY GOD I JUST LOOKED THIS UP.

AFTER HE MEETS HER AND IMMEDIATLY KISSES HER AND FALLS IN LOVE WITH HER SHE IS LITERALLY NOT MENTIONED AGAIN UNTIL SHE IS KILLED.

I AM NOT KIDDING.


The girl was obviously given to him as a means of binding to the Biotic Underground.
But that is just ridiculous.

Modifié par Zhuinden, 31 janvier 2012 - 05:54 .


#5693
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Well in other, better news, the 2nd issue of Fornax just went live.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

And how long did Nick actually know that Marisa girl for? Really?


OH MY GOD I JUST LOOKED THIS UP.

AFTER HE MEETS HER AND IMMEDIATLY KISSES HER AND FALLS IN LOVE WITH HER SHE IS LITERALLY NOT MENTIONED AGAIN UNTIL SHE IS KILLED.

I AM NOT KIDDING.


HOW.

THE ****.

NO NO NO.

NICK IS A TEENAGER, BUT NO ONE IS THAT NAIVE.

NO ONE.

****.

THIS POST NEEDS TO BE LONGER TO FIT MY OUTRAGE.

#5695
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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

And how long did Nick actually know that Marisa girl for? Really?


OH MY GOD I JUST LOOKED THIS UP.

AFTER HE MEETS HER AND IMMEDIATLY KISSES HER AND FALLS IN LOVE WITH HER SHE IS LITERALLY NOT MENTIONED AGAIN UNTIL SHE IS KILLED.

I AM NOT KIDDING.


Well its clearly a metaphor for the desires of love and lust by teenagers. THis immedeate seperation of love is represented by classic novels such as romeo and juliet.

that or its poopy writing.

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I remember reading some of Dietz's novels way back...I can't recall any of them being really bad, but boy, some of these excerpts from Deception. *sigh* He must not have tried very hard on this book.

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I would honestly pay to be in the meeting rooms at Bioware tommorrow.

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AtreiyaN7 wrote...

I remember reading some of Dietz's novels way back...I can't recall any of them being really bad, but boy, some of these excerpts from Deception. *sigh* He must not have tried very hard on this book.


Well a guy here said Earth Rise is the worst book he has ever read, and it was also coincidentally written by William C. Dietz.

The revelation was a marvellous sight.

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You think the meaningless deaths are bad enough? Here's the utterly pointless Council meeting at the end that changes quite literally nothing: <_<

The human Council member was clearly annoyed. “With all due respect, Admiral, your fascination with the Reapers has all the hallmarks of a fixation. But if we have to walk this road again let’s do so as efficiently as possible. Please proceed.”

All sorts of information was stored on Gillian’s data jewel. That included a very disturbing holo that Anderson and Kahlee hoped would shake the Council out of its complacency. The air at the center of the chamber shimmered, a picture took shape, and Grayson began to scream. His body was naked, he had been strapped to some sort of framework, and his skin had a grayish tint. Open incisions could be seen on his legs. And as he screamed, thin snakelike cables could be seen entering his body, apparently of their own volition.

As the camera zoomed out, people wearing lab coats could be seen. “No!” Grayson said, as his eyes flicked from face to face. “For the love of god stop them. I’ll do anything . . . Anything you want. Don’t let them do this to me.” But rather than stop the process the onlookers took notes as the cable things squirmed under the surface of Grayson’s skin, dimly seen lights appeared under his epidermis, and the cords in his neck stood out. “Kill meeeee,” Grayson whimpered. “Please kill me,” but no one did.

“We’ve seen enough,” the turian Council member put in crossly. “Kill the holo. All right, Admiral . . . What’s the purpose of this display? Thanks to you the Council is already familiar with the way in which Grayson was abused. I fail to see how the holo sheds any light on the situation.”

Anderson was angry and struggling to control it. His jaw clenched and unclenched. “Have any of you ever seen anything similar? Or even heard of something like what they did to Grayson? I don’t think so. Ask yourselves . . . Where did this technology come from? And where could it lead?”

“To Cerberus,” the asari said reasonably. “You were part of the raid on the Cerberus space station where the experiments took place, as I recall, and saw firsthand what had been taking place there. Somehow, by a means unknown, Cerberus has acquired technology we aren’t familiar with. But that doesn’t mean the Reapers were involved.”

Kahlee took a step forward and spoke for the first time. “When Gillian Grayson died she gave us the device on which that holo was stored and she said something that could be very important. She said that ‘They’re building an army.’ Think about that. Think about what an army of Graysons could do.”

“What could they do?” the turian demanded contemptuously.

“Grayson single- handedly took over a space station,” Anderson reminded them.

“Which was lightly defended,” the salarian observed. “Thank you both . . . But unless you have hard proof of a connection between Grayson and the Reapers, I suggest that we bring this discussion to a close.”

Kahlee started to speak, realized that none of the Council members were willing to listen, and turned to Anderson. “He’s right. This discussion is over. Let’s go home.”


EDIT: It should also be mentioned that the procedure done to Grayson to inject the Reaper tech into him in Retribution was NOTHING like what's described above. Whoops, Dietz. :pinched:

Modifié par AVPen, 31 janvier 2012 - 05:58 .


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omg awful writing and insult to the mass effect lore and characters 


edit: this is the first time i had to cancel my pre order

Modifié par Grey34, 31 janvier 2012 - 05:57 .