JakePT wrote...
Arcian wrote...
JakePT wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
JakePT wrote...
First step in resolving canon issues on Mass Effect wiki.
Handling Mass Effect: Deception's Issues
I'm just one of the admins, and it's just my point of view, but it's where we're starting.
Jake, you're effectively the de facto leader of our wikia brethren.
Ha. The lead admin is Sparthawg, I'm just the only one who can stand you guys. 
What's Sparthawg's stance on Deception? Because honestly, I just know him as the admin who makes baseless speculations in articles all the time (examples: Human Reaper=Vanguard and ME2 Ending=Reapers wake up, both of which I personally debunked by actually contacting a dev and asking instead of just blindly going "Oh well it COULD be like this and then it probably is because it fits my vision of how Mass Effect is") while racking down on people for not citing confirmed sources like dev statements.
He seems like the guy who'd be the first to swallow Deception's bullcrap and call it expensive chocolate just because it was written with BioWare's permission and blessing.
So please, for the love of god and all things still holy, prove me wrong.
I'd hardly call Sparthawg as someone who makes baseless speculations, especially not in articles, but I'm not familiar with your examples. Frankly he's by far one of the most reasonable people on the wiki, at least in my experience. Can't speak for yours though.
Two examples:
1) Jack Harper. Before it was officially revealed in issue 4 of Evolution that Jack Harper became the Illusive Man, Sparthawg (and Lancer, as well, iirc) refused to acknowledge or allow people to change the Illusive Man article to reflect this even though it was blatantly obvious seeing how at least one of the Evolution covers showed the Illusive Man. The official explanation was basically that such changes can't be made based on assumptions, only confirmed sources.
This kind of unreasonably restrictive administration standards flies in the face of what was said in the Dark Space and Human Reaper articles, as both contained claims based on popular fan theories (Reapers waking up after ME2 and the Human Reaper being meant to replace Sovereign, respectively). I tried to change both articles to remove these assumptions and make them more neutral, but my changes were constantly reverted with the justification that there were good reasons to believe that the theories were legit.
Frustrated with being stonewalled at every possible angle, I eventually contacted Mac on twitter and outright asked if these fan theories were correct, and he confirmed they weren't. That threw the credibility of Sparthawg and Lancer, and the wiki itself, right out the window. The changes I wanted did occur, but I felt it was too little, too late.
2) The Ogre statue in Kasumi's Lost Memories DLC. Basically, Sparthawg and Lancer refused to acknowledge or allow people to write in the DLC article's trivia section that the ogre statue was a reference to Dragon Age: Origins. The justification?
Because a dev had not come out and explicitly stated that it was indeed a reference. This is just bollocks. Some claims are axioms - for example, a dev would not need to confirm that a ball in the game is green - that should be blatantly obvious just by looking at it. Yet again an example of unreasonably restrictive administration.
JakePT wrote...
I don't want to speak for him, but everything he's said to me and posted on the wiki suggests he's even more dissapointed than I am (I'm actually relatively ambivalent about the novels, it's the implications that the novel has about BioWare's general attitude that bothers me).
Thank you, you have now officially restored my faith in the man. Not by a lot, mind you, but it's definitely a start.
Modifié par Arcian, 31 janvier 2012 - 12:02 .
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