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LPPrince wrote...

Doctalen wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

still reading but the author says that the bataians have an embassy on the presidium when they don't if i recall

Pretty sure they don't. I think they were kicked out like the Quarians 


They(Batarians) weren't kicked out, they left on their own accord because humans were encroaching on what they considered was their territory and the Council did nothing to help them.

Ah ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me

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If the Batarians gained an embassy while Shepard was being held, I don't know.

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I can't get over TIM and Leng meeting in TIM's office.

"The operative had proven himself many times and was a very important part of the Cerberus operation."

Cool. Now tell us an example of how important or something? No we just get a description of what he looks like. Huh wha? But it gets better. Leng's first words "You sent for me?" Okay, pretty standard, but a bit unnecessary.And yet a few paragraphs down, after TIM gives the situation, we get,

"Another operative might have said something unnecessary at that point. But not Leng."

Arrrgggg!!! [/charliebrown] This book is a riot.

Modifié par tomorrowstation, 26 janvier 2012 - 06:20 .


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Doctalen wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

still reading but the author says that the bataians have an embassy on the presidium when they don't if i recall

Pretty sure they don't. I think they were kicked out like the Quarians 


WRONG. Time for some ME history lessons.

According to the wiki timeline. masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline

200 BCE - 1 CE

First contact is made with the batarians. They are granted an embassy a century later.


2171 CE

In protest at the refusal of the Citadel Council to limit human expansion in the Skyllian Verge, the batarians close their embassy, withdraw into their home systems, and effectively become a rogue state.


Apparently they did have an embassy on the Citadel, but closed it protest for the reasons stated above.

EDIT: :ph34r:

Modifié par Relix28, 26 janvier 2012 - 06:22 .


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LPPrince wrote...

I thought the whole "finding out her father's dead" thing was anti-climactic.


Kahlee should have been the one to deliver the news, not some random Cerberus guy they just happen to find on a slaver ship that just happens to attack the Idenna.  And Gillian's reaction should have been disturbing and viewed from the outside, not "RAWR I SO MAD NOW. YOU MUST DIE!"  

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didymos1120 wrote...

The cereal can only be found in the Google Books preview.


So it is. Read the whole excerpt..... :mellow:  meh 

No not meh, I've read fan fiction that are miles better written then this book. I am disappoint. I'm going back to fan fiction.

Modifié par Eshaye, 26 janvier 2012 - 06:28 .


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didymos1120 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

I thought the whole "finding out her father's dead" thing was anti-climactic.


Kahlee should have been the one to deliver the news, not some random Cerberus guy they just happen to find on a slaver ship that just happens to attack the Idenna.  And Gillian's reaction should have been disturbing and viewed from the outside, not "RAWR I SO MAD NOW. YOU MUST DIE!"  


Just another horribly wrong thing with this novel.

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Challenge:

List what you percieve to be the 5 worst sentences (from the extract at least)


Got a bit distracted, but here:

The instant classic:

That made him an extremist, not to mention a racist, and that was fine with Leng.


The "Would Be Marked 'Awkward' In Red Pen By Your English Teacher" award:

Because of an injury sustained during a recent and especially difficult mission, Leng was using a
cane as he mounted the steps one at a time.


The "Most Cliched One-liner" award:

“Don’t bother to get up,” Leng said, as he bent over to pick up his cane.


The "Most Egregious Violation Of Lore" award:

One that had been sprung so successfully that now, two years later, some of the damage the sentient machines had caused was still being repaired.


The "Don't Show Sh*t. Tell." Award:

It was also annoying and made Anderson frown.


OK, so actually, that was just the five worst sentences in the first eleven pages.

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Didy. You could make a series on it. I'd want you to if I wasn't afraid you'd pop blood vessels in your head.

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Wonder if we'll get a PULSE-episode telling us how great this book is :mellow:

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Eudaemonium wrote...

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Finally found the itunes link for anyone who actually wants to pay for the book we all already hate rather than downloading it from some dodgy site.  itunes.apple.com/gb/book/mass-effect-deception/id493287045

Expected release date 2/2/12?  Why 2 day delay?  I don't often (ever) buy ebooks. Is this normal?


You can get Kindle for iPad and get it from Amazon, presumably they have it on release day.


Thank you.

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Cribbian wrote...

Wonder if we'll get a PULSE-episode telling us how great this book is :mellow:


Now that you mention it, I'd love to know what part Casey read that made him go "Lots of good stuff in Deception. You'll love it. Kai Leng is a badass." (mostly paraphrased, I don't know the exact quote)

Because I can't see any. :?

Modifié par Iohanna, 26 janvier 2012 - 06:33 .


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LPPrince wrote...

Didy. You could make a series on it. I'd want you to if I wasn't afraid you'd pop blood vessels in your head.


I'm good. The sandman hooked me up with some of that sweet Omega red, baby.

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LPPrince wrote...

Didy. You could make a series on it. I'd want you to if I wasn't afraid you'd pop blood vessels in your head.


Eh, I think if he has survived so far, there is nothing to fear :D

Didymos wrote...
I'm good. The sandman hooked me up with some of that sweet Omega red, baby.


That too. :whistle:

Modifié par Zhuinden, 26 janvier 2012 - 06:30 .


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Iohanna wrote...

Cribbian wrote...

Wonder if we'll get a PULSE-episode telling us how great this book is :mellow:


Now that you mention it, I'd love to know what part Casey read that made him go "Lot's of good stuff in Deception. You'll love it. Kai Leng is a badass." (mostly paraphrased, I don't know the exact quote)

Because I can't see any. :?


It's a preview. Be patiant. :devil: /Priestly impression

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tomorrowstation wrote...

I can't get over TIM and Leng meeting in TIM's office.

"The operative had proven himself many times and was a very important part of the Cerberus operation."

Cool. Now tell us an example of how important or something?
No we just get a description of what he looks like. Huh wha? But it gets better. Leng's first words "You sent for me?" Okay, pretty standard, but a bit unnecessary.And yet a few paragraphs down, after TIM gives the situation, we get,

"Another operative might have said something unnecessary at that point. But not Leng."

Arrrgggg!!! [/charliebrown] This book is a riot.

The previous book?

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Cribbian wrote...

Wonder if we'll get a PULSE-episode telling us how great this book is :mellow:


Silverman: We go behind the scenes of the latest novel for ME3.

Cut to Casey Hudson: We really wanted to make this the best Mass Effect novel of the series, and hired one of the best writers in the business, William C. Dietz. He's amazing, and spent weeks learning the lore of Mass Effect. He probably knows more about it then I do. For fans of the series, this book is definitely a must buy.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 26 janvier 2012 - 06:35 .


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Nothing about the batarian tantalus drive cores in that top 5?

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The "Most Egregious Violation Of Lore" award:

One that had been sprung so successfully that now, two years later, some of the damage the sentient machines had caused was still being repaired.



Geth. Geth are also the sentient machines. And they were mostly successful in attacking the citadel.

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Luigitornado wrote...

tomorrowstation wrote...

I can't get over TIM and Leng meeting in TIM's office.

"The operative had proven himself many times and was a very important part of the Cerberus operation."

Cool. Now tell us an example of how important or something?
No we just get a description of what he looks like. Huh wha? But it gets better. Leng's first words "You sent for me?" Okay, pretty standard, but a bit unnecessary.And yet a few paragraphs down, after TIM gives the situation, we get,

"Another operative might have said something unnecessary at that point. But not Leng."

Arrrgggg!!! [/charliebrown] This book is a riot.

The previous book?




Obviously. I was pointing out the total whiplash of a disconnect between that line and the very next one,which is what Leng looks like. Just basic narrative 101 thrown out the window.

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Luigitornado wrote...

The "Most Egregious Violation Of Lore" award:

One that had been sprung so successfully that now, two years later, some of the damage the sentient machines had caused was still being repaired.



Geth. Geth are also the sentient machines. And they were mostly successful in attacking the citadel.

I think he's talking about how he says that the citidel was a trap or something. Un-sure. I know many were critcising the trap thing. 

Modifié par Doctalen, 26 janvier 2012 - 06:44 .


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Luigitornado wrote...

The "Most Egregious Violation Of Lore" award:

One that had been sprung so successfully that now, two years later, some of the damage the sentient machines had caused was still being repaired.



Geth. Geth are also the sentient machines. And they were mostly successful in attacking the citadel.


In context, it refers to the Reapers. Or maybe Dietz just doesn't know the difference.  Who the hell knows?  In any case, that's not the main problem with that sentence.  Think about it: what was the trap in the first game?  And did it succeed?

ETA:  Here.  I'll just quote the whole paragraph:

As Anderson led the others aboard a public shuttle he was reminded of the fact that the Reapers had created the Citadel as bait for a high-tech trap. One that had been sprung so successfully that now, two years later, some of the damage the sentient machines had caused was still being repaired.


Modifié par didymos1120, 26 janvier 2012 - 06:49 .


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No the trap did not succeed, Shepard and friends made sure..... :/ The Protheans started it by rewritting the keepers...

Why is that excerpt even out? It sounds like a draft copy that's unedited and not checked for facts and sentences that make sense. I'm sort of hoping that's not the final version, I really wanted to read that book.

Modifié par Eshaye, 26 janvier 2012 - 06:55 .


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 I'm calling Kai Leng Special K from now on...

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Special Agent K