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Mass Effect: Deception Discussion Thread (Updated 2/2/2012) *Now with 30% more links!*


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#6601
AresXX7

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Regardless of what anyone's opinion of Drew's writing style, positive or negative, at least one can say they're reading a legitimate Mass Effect novel.

I don't recall any of his books laden with so many inconsistencies, save for one - Kahlee's inability to remember the Reapers in Ascension, that the reader spends more time thinking WTF?, than following the story.

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LPPrince wrote...

jreezy wrote...

And then pee on his corpse.


That implies his corpse is in a vase. Unless his casket is a vase.

vaseception!

#6603
LPPrince

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jreezy wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Zhuinden wrote...

...with a toothbrush?


A sharpened toothbrush used to kill formerly autistic, 15-now-18 year old, air kiss giving, Level 3 biotic girls.

So many adjectives, so much awesome.


So. Much. Awesome. /dietzstylewriting

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Glad you guys like them! :D

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ElitePinecone wrote...

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99% of people responsible for ME3 are not responsible for Deception. That is the work of Mr. Dietz (not a Bioware employee) and probably a handful of incompetent people from Bioware that reviewed his "work" and gave it the OK. 


Just the executive producer and lead writer, but whatever.  

That aside, I don't think their efforts on proof-reading Deception are indicative at all of the quality of ME3. 

And I think any move to affect ME3 preorders is silly and futile. The novel readers are a tiny fraction of a fraction of ME3's total player base. 

We've made a thread. They get it. We don't like Deception


Was it said or confirmed who exactly gave this....book the OK?

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AresXX7 wrote...

Regardless of what anyone's opinion of Drew's writing style, positive or negative, at least one can say they're reading a legitimate Mass Effect novel.

I don't recall any of his books laden with so many inconsistencies, save for one - Kahlee's inability to remember the Reapers in Ascension, that the reader spends more time thinking WTF?, than following the story.




I got over it, but yeah, that threw me off. Simple mistake, guess the editors missed it.

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Sweet mother of jebus, it just arrived at my house.


Arm yourself with a flamethrower and barricade into your room. It may ignore you if you go low profile for a few days...

Good luck:crying:

Modifié par LGTX, 31 janvier 2012 - 04:38 .


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jreezy wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

jreezy wrote...

And then pee on his corpse.


That implies his corpse is in a vase. Unless his casket is a vase.

vaseception!


Read that word back to yourself and think of certain respectable quarian ship names.

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LGTX wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Sweet mother of jebus, it just arrived at my house.


Arm yourself with a flamethrower and barricade into your room. It may ignore you if you go low profile for a few days...

Good luck:crying:


"If I don't move...maybe it won't see me..."

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AresXX7 wrote...

Regardless of what anyone's opinion of Drew's writing style, positive or negative, at least one can say they're reading a legitimate Mass Effect novel.


This is my feeling exactly. Whether you think the writing is great, the story fits in the universe. With Dietz's, we can't even being to figure out where it takes place. It's just pathetic.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Relix28 wrote...
99% of people responsible for ME3 are not responsible for Deception. That is the work of Mr. Dietz (not a Bioware employee) and probably a handful of incompetent people from Bioware that reviewed his "work" and gave it the OK. 


Just the executive producer and lead writer, but whatever.  

That aside, I don't think their efforts on proof-reading Deception are indicative at all of the quality of ME3. 

And I think any move to affect ME3 preorders is silly and futile. The novel readers are a tiny fraction of a fraction of ME3's total player base. 

We've made a thread. They get it. We don't like Deception


My main argument is pre-orders in general.  Just look at how many people would have been spared this attrocity of a book if the HADNT PREORDERED IT.

As gamers, we need to get our **** together and learn that patience is a virtue, and preordering is working against us in all sorts of ways.  Quality is only assured when publishers know that gamers read reviews and sales reflect them. 

If you know you're going to buy ME3 anyway, then what's the harm in waiting a few extra days/weeks?  The bugs will get patched, the reviews will come in, and you'll still get the same great experience, assuming it was ever there to begin with.

If preorders weren't a thing, things like Dragon Age 2 would never have happened. 

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I really, really like Kahlee.  She came from a crappy background, worked her way up and makes mistakes.  She's HUMAN, and 2-dimensional (not quite 3-dimensional, but a lot better than most characters in game fiction).


Huh?  She's the daughter of an international hero (a bloody icon).  I don't recall any account of her working her way up - what did she do?  And as for her mistakes, everybody just seems to gloss over them and still tell her she's wonderful.  She certainly doesn't seem to have learned anything or grown as a person from her mistakes.

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Can anyone recommend another image hosting service? :P


Tumblr is pretty darn heavenly, I gotta say.

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“Yes, damn you . . . We were going to get married.”

"..and now she's dead. Haha what a story Mark."

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LPPrince wrote...

jreezy wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

jreezy wrote...

And then pee on his corpse.


That implies his corpse is in a vase. Unless his casket is a vase.

vaseception!


Read that word back to yourself and think of certain respectable quarian ship names.

Vas Iktomi...hehehe

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Relix28 wrote...
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Casey mentions reviewing it twice on Twitter (that was months ago), and Dietz's acknowledgements page in Deception lists three Bioware employees - Hudson, Mac Walters and Tricia Pasternak - as giving him 'advice and guidance'. 

In an email response to a reader, Dietz mentioned that two senior Bioware employees (I'm presuming Casey and probably Mac) read through Deception and provded creative oversight. 

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The cover... it's so beautiful! Must... read!

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CaptainZaysh wrote...

Huh?  She's the daughter of an international hero (a bloody icon).


Which no one is aware of. Her mother dies young, and she works very hard to get where she is.

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CaptainZaysh wrote...

JoePilot wrote...

I really, really like Kahlee.  She came from a crappy background, worked her way up and makes mistakes.  She's HUMAN, and 2-dimensional (not quite 3-dimensional, but a lot better than most characters in game fiction).


Huh?  She's the daughter of an international hero (a bloody icon).  I don't recall any account of her working her way up - what did she do?  And as for her mistakes, everybody just seems to gloss over them and still tell her she's wonderful.  She certainly doesn't seem to have learned anything or grown as a person from her mistakes.


Read the books.  She was raised by her mother in the megatropolis of Texas, one of the poorer regions on earth.  Her parents divorced when she was young-ish, and she grew up basically by herself.  She promised her mother she would never speak to her father (a promise she was forced to break when on the run from edan haddah), and after her mother died she enlisted with the alliance, studied hard and eventually was assigned to top-security clearance projects pulling down top-pay.

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Iohanna wrote...
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I can see them all, but they're huge! (As in, I can only see 'ASAR' in the first one). 

Do they look fine to everybody else? Because I can see enough to pick a few and use them, if they look normal. 

Edit: Oh, and thanks so much for taking the extra time to help me out. Super appreciated!

Modifié par ElitePinecone, 31 janvier 2012 - 04:43 .


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The PLC wrote...

The cover... it's so beautiful! Must... read!


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#6622
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You know...I was thinking. At this point, Kai Leng has become such a joke that he might as well be voiced by Mark Wahlberg. Here we have The Illusive Man and Kai Leng recruiting for Cerberus Special Ops

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The PLC wrote...

The cover... it's so beautiful! Must... read!


Phase 1: visual indoctrination

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“Yes, damn you . . . We were going to get married.”

"..and now she's dead. Haha what a story Mark."


ROFL

I forgot about all the comparisons we made to The Room.

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Dragon Age 2 was the first time I pre-ordered something in a long time. So, yeah. Not gonna be making that mistake again!
I don't think I've ever pre-ordered any books though and am pretty picky when it comes to buying them. Very rarely get into new authors. Still, Deception makes me want to do a read through the last three books. A feeling I can't say I've felt before. So, it succeeded in some regard.