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#7726
JamesFaith

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Reporter: Lets ask about Deception someone most competent - the citizens of Citadel! Hey, sir, can I ask you a question?

Elcor: Gladly - sure.

Reporter: Did you read new ME book Deception?

Elcor: Sadly - yes.

Reporter: And what is your opinion on it?

Elcor:  ..........sorry, I don't know right word describing my mental state but if you were elcor, my pheromons would make your nose explode.

#7727
plyrak49

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I say we go all reaper on this book, and destroy any evidence that it ever existed.

#7728
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Hello Man wrote...

I can't wait till someone makes a parody comic like penny arcade about this whole thing.


Wouldn't a parody of Mass Effecr Deception be the best of the series with no errors and a terrifyingly competant assasin?

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Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

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didymos1120 wrote...

Also, Kai Leng apparently travels from Illium to the Citadel on a vessel using normal FTL.


Sure. That'd only take about...three thousand years, give or take.



Actually eyeballing the distance i would say it would take 8-10 years - that's not including the gazillion times he would have to stop to discharge the drive core or refuel.


You don't seem to understand the scale of the distance between them. Those ingame FTL speeds are purely cosmetic.

Trust me i do comprehend the distances, Perhaps you're not acquainted with the speeds dictated by a conversation you can have with Ashley where she explains that she took her sister to school  "only a dozen light years away - a days journey" this equates to a speed of around 4000C (low) - considering the distance between the citadel and Illium is around 30.000 to 40.000 LY would make it a 8-10 years journey.


Doesn't mean that there wasn't a relay involved. A days joruney could be traveltime to the relay and from it. Could be it takes a few hours from a relay in a cluster to a system.


well it does preclude a relay involved since it was in the same system - only system to have two relays is the omega system.


That can't be right. 24 hours traveltime within the same system? That would mean travel time betwenn clusters would be days or weeks.

#7730
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Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Also, Kai Leng apparently travels from Illium to the Citadel on a vessel using normal FTL.


Sure. That'd only take about...three thousand years, give or take.


:lol:

That's what I was thinking. My God, error overload, I can't take it anymore. 

#7731
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The new title of this thread mentions nothing about all the novels errors. Just wondering if it should? if people haven't heard about it yet they might bypass looking in this thread?

#7732
Anacronian Stryx

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LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Also, Kai Leng apparently travels from Illium to the Citadel on a vessel using normal FTL.


Sure. That'd only take about...three thousand years, give or take.



Actually eyeballing the distance i would say it would take 8-10 years - that's not including the gazillion times he would have to stop to discharge the drive core or refuel.


You don't seem to understand the scale of the distance between them. Those ingame FTL speeds are purely cosmetic.

Trust me i do comprehend the distances, Perhaps you're not acquainted with the speeds dictated by a conversation you can have with Ashley where she explains that she took her sister to school  "only a dozen light years away - a days journey" this equates to a speed of around 4000C (low) - considering the distance between the citadel and Illium is around 30.000 to 40.000 LY would make it a 8-10 years journey.


Doesn't mean that there wasn't a relay involved. A days joruney could be traveltime to the relay and from it. Could be it takes a few hours from a relay in a cluster to a system.


well it does preclude a relay involved since it was in the same system - only system to have two relays is the omega system.


That can't be right. 24 hours traveltime within the same system? That would mean travel time betwenn clusters would be days or weeks.


I ment cluster i've edited my post.

#7733
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Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Also, Kai Leng apparently travels from Illium to the Citadel on a vessel using normal FTL.


Sure. That'd only take about...three thousand years, give or take.



Actually eyeballing the distance i would say it would take 8-10 years - that's not including the gazillion times he would have to stop to discharge the drive core or refuel.


You don't seem to understand the scale of the distance between them. Those ingame FTL speeds are purely cosmetic.

Trust me i do comprehend the distances, Perhaps you're not acquainted with the speeds dictated by a conversation you can have with Ashley where she explains that she took her sister to school  "only a dozen light years away - a days journey" this equates to a speed of around 4000C (low) - considering the distance between the citadel and Illium is around 30.000 to 40.000 LY would make it a 8-10 years journey.


Doesn't mean that there wasn't a relay involved. A days joruney could be traveltime to the relay and from it. Could be it takes a few hours from a relay in a cluster to a system.


well it does preclude a relay involved since it was in the same system - only system to have two relays is the omega system.


That can't be right. 24 hours traveltime within the same system? That would mean travel time betwenn clusters would be days or weeks.


I ment cluster i've edited my post.


Oh okey. So basically traveltime with from one end of the galaxy to the other would be 15 years? Seems awfully fast.

#7734
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LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Also, Kai Leng apparently travels from Illium to the Citadel on a vessel using normal FTL.


Sure. That'd only take about...three thousand years, give or take.



Actually eyeballing the distance i would say it would take 8-10 years - that's not including the gazillion times he would have to stop to discharge the drive core or refuel.


You don't seem to understand the scale of the distance between them. Those ingame FTL speeds are purely cosmetic.

Trust me i do comprehend the distances, Perhaps you're not acquainted with the speeds dictated by a conversation you can have with Ashley where she explains that she took her sister to school  "only a dozen light years away - a days journey" this equates to a speed of around 4000C (low) - considering the distance between the citadel and Illium is around 30.000 to 40.000 LY would make it a 8-10 years journey.


Doesn't mean that there wasn't a relay involved. A days joruney could be traveltime to the relay and from it. Could be it takes a few hours from a relay in a cluster to a system.


well it does preclude a relay involved since it was in the same system - only system to have two relays is the omega system.


That can't be right. 24 hours traveltime within the same system? That would mean travel time betwenn clusters would be days or weeks.


There is some discrepancy between the lore and the games here. In the lore you use the omnidirectional secondary relays to travel within a cluster, while in the games it's done with normal ftl.

#7735
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Heraxion wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Also, Kai Leng apparently travels from Illium to the Citadel on a vessel using normal FTL.


Sure. That'd only take about...three thousand years, give or take.



Actually eyeballing the distance i would say it would take 8-10 years - that's not including the gazillion times he would have to stop to discharge the drive core or refuel.


You don't seem to understand the scale of the distance between them. Those ingame FTL speeds are purely cosmetic.

Trust me i do comprehend the distances, Perhaps you're not acquainted with the speeds dictated by a conversation you can have with Ashley where she explains that she took her sister to school  "only a dozen light years away - a days journey" this equates to a speed of around 4000C (low) - considering the distance between the citadel and Illium is around 30.000 to 40.000 LY would make it a 8-10 years journey.


Doesn't mean that there wasn't a relay involved. A days joruney could be traveltime to the relay and from it. Could be it takes a few hours from a relay in a cluster to a system.


well it does preclude a relay involved since it was in the same system - only system to have two relays is the omega system.


That can't be right. 24 hours traveltime within the same system? That would mean travel time betwenn clusters would be days or weeks.


There is some discrepancy between the lore and the games here. In the lore you use the omnidirectional secondary relays to travel within a cluster, while in the games it's done with normal ftl.


Thank you. That explains everything.

#7736
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Unreadable quote pyramid.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Unreadable quote pyramid.


It's a nice 3Dish effect.

#7738
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Try to shorten the quote pyramids a bit guys :)

#7739
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Btw, found another lore error. In the book Omega is apparantly still an important source of Eezo.

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 Make the quote pyramids go away...
Please make them go away....

:crying:

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Heraxion wrote...

Btw, found another lore error. In the book Omega is apparantly still an important source of Eezo.

Found the quote on that:

Now, thanks to both the element zero mines and its location deep inside the lawless Terminus systems, Omega served as a tax- free port where pirates, mercenaries, slavers, assassins, and criminals of every race could trade, rest, and enjoy their profits.



#7742
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JamesFaith wrote...

Reporter: Lets ask about Deception someone most competent - the citizens of Citadel! Hey, sir, can I ask you a question?

Elcor: Gladly - sure.

Reporter: Did you read new ME book Deception?

Elcor: Sadly - yes.

Reporter: And what is your opinion on it?

Elcor:  ..........sorry, I don't know right word describing my mental state but if you were elcor, my pheromons would make your nose explode.


I lol'd

#7743
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 Hm...guess it's going well in here...;)

Modifié par HeliusCarthaxis, 01 février 2012 - 01:41 .


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XXIceColdXX

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Smooth sailing.

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 AVOID Deception LIKE THE PLAGUE CARRYING ZOMBIES, TWILIGHT VAMPIRES AND NUCLEAR BOMBS!!! It completely DEFILES logic, our intelligence and EVERYTHING that has to do with MASS EFFECT!

The the personalities of the characters are backwards, the time line of events are way off, and the issue that I find to be the worst out of all of this mess combined is that the book completely disregards Gillian's autism as a "phase".

I am autistic myself and I am INSULTED by this. From my personal experiences autism is not some stage that just comes by and is never seen again. It is a serious disability that remains with you your entire life and will NEVER go away no matter how much you try to ignore it.

That piece of trash needs to be either re-written and re-edited, or completely ignored all together. It better NOT be considered cannon in any way, shape or form untill it is either fixed or disregarded completely! 

Modifié par Alexander Kogan, 01 février 2012 - 01:44 .


#7746
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AVPen wrote...

Heraxion wrote...

Btw, found another lore error. In the book Omega is apparantly still an important source of Eezo.

Found the quote on that:

Now, thanks to both the element zero mines and its location deep inside the lawless Terminus systems, Omega served as a tax- free port where pirates, mercenaries, slavers, assassins, and criminals of every race could trade, rest, and enjoy their profits.


Is that suggesting the Eezo mines are on Omega - or just in the system?

The use of 'the' instead of 'its' before element zero makes me wonder what was actually implied.

Still - element zero mines off of the station would have every batarian and his varren bullying people off to mine it.

#7747
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Working on a Hilter reacts video for this book.

Basically, the map pointing will be mentioning where the order is right now, and how it will almost be to the bunker.

"Soon, I'll be enjoying learning more about the Mass Effect Universe"

"Deitz..."

"Deitz completely bastardized the Mass Effect canon. The reaction is so bad that even the Mass Effect Wiki is thinking of declaring the book non-canon"

*reaches for glasses*

"Everyone who thinks Mass Effect is just a video game, leave the room"

#7748
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LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

LordEurope wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Also, Kai Leng apparently travels from Illium to the Citadel on a vessel using normal FTL.


Sure. That'd only take about...three thousand years, give or take.



Actually eyeballing the distance i would say it would take 8-10 years - that's not including the gazillion times he would have to stop to discharge the drive core or refuel.


You don't seem to understand the scale of the distance between them. Those ingame FTL speeds are purely cosmetic.

Trust me i do comprehend the distances, Perhaps you're not acquainted with the speeds dictated by a conversation you can have with Ashley where she explains that she took her sister to school  "only a dozen light years away - a days journey" this equates to a speed of around 4000C (low) - considering the distance between the citadel and Illium is around 30.000 to 40.000 LY would make it a 8-10 years journey.


Doesn't mean that there wasn't a relay involved. A days joruney could be traveltime to the relay and from it. Could be it takes a few hours from a relay in a cluster to a system.


well it does preclude a relay involved since it was in the same system - only system to have two relays is the omega system.


That can't be right. 24 hours traveltime within the same system? That would mean travel time betwenn clusters would be days or weeks.


I ment cluster i've edited my post.


Oh okey. So basically traveltime with from one end of the galaxy to the other would be 15 years? Seems awfully fast.


25 years and that's not including drive core discharge refueling and all that good stuff.

#7749
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Make the Pyramid stop! Make it stop!

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Stop quote pyramiding