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[Heraxion]

CaptainZaysh wrote...


And there it is, error number 10.  Take that, dastardly Dietz.  How dare you invent some fluff.

Can we make a Dastardly Dietz meme. Can we??? Please

[LPPrince]

Heraxion wrote...

CaptainZaysh wrote...


And there it is, error number 10.  Take that, dastardly Dietz.  How dare you invent some fluff.

Can we make a Dastardly Dietz meme. Can we??? Please

Go for it.

[crimzontearz]

ODST 3 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

ODST 3 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

ODST 3 wrote...
This will eventually blow over. I hope Bioware isn't wasting time focusing on this issue which really means nothing to most people who don't even read crappy game books. I just hope they're putting all time and effort into the polishing of Mass Effect 3.

right because to address this issue we need programmers, coders, testers and what not.....all people vital to the final polishing stages (which at one month from release and days from a gold announcement should be DONE) as opposed to the creative leads (handful of people).
right...totally

So you think the creative leads have nothing better to do?

they have their job to do....and guess what, proofreading and ok-ing this abomination WAS THEIR JOB which according to twitter they did but given the result......

Given that there is a limited time to make final changes to the game itself, I see that as more important, especially since the sh*t book has already been released.

do you even know how developing works? the "no new features" barrier was reached months ago. Bug removal and polishing do not require a creative lead's full attention. What people want is nothing more than a few official words disavowing this crap so it does not influence canon

[JunMadine]

They may have references to Deception in ME3. we may have to find a way to make some of it work.

[Recon Member]

JunMadine wrote...

They may have references to Deception in ME3. we may have to find a way to make some of it work.

Hardly any major onces.

[nitefyre410]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

I suggest a re-order.

Major errors first, nitpciks last.

So that, you know, the THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE flashes in your face.

The nitpicks should just come out.  Dietz is perfectly within his rights to describe the Citadel as star shaped - it's not an error at all.  The asari "air kiss" thing is actually quite creative, and given all the ways humans of differing groups use touching rituals (handshakes, secret handshakes, fist bumps, chest bumps, head bumps, high fives, air kisses (of differing numbers by region), hugs, bro hugs...) it makes perfect sense as something that the biotic subculture might develop.

And there it is, error number 10.  Take that, dastardly Dietz.  How dare you invent some fluff.

 


One creative sign of affection and romantic gesture does not excuse everything else.  Though you are right its not a really problem... I have no Idea why it was listed  as an error its  pointless  

Completely ignoring the fact that your main character is  autistic  and brushing it off - that is not cool at all.   

I don't think I have ever seen something  so blantly disregarded in such a fashion.  

 

[Heraxion]

I Introduce!

Dastardly Dietz

 

Modifié par Heraxion, 01 février 2012 - 03:47 .

[Saiyan1126]

CaptainZaysh wrote...


And there it is, error number 10.  Take that, dastardly Dietz.  How dare you invent some fluff.

Yeah! That's like a Human going through the unmapped Omega-4 Relay and killing all the Collectors in their own base! Oh wait...

Oops wrong 10

Modifié par Saiyan1126, 01 février 2012 - 03:50 .

[ODST 3]

crimzontearz wrote...
do you even know how developing works? the "no new features" barrier was reached months ago. Bug removal and polishing do not require a creative lead's full attention. What people want is nothing more than a few official words disavowing this crap so it does not influence canon

Do you seriously think "Disavowing" a recently published book is as easy as that? This represents a significant investment in addition to admitting they're wrong. Meetings must be had, numbers calculated, detailed decisions made... these things take time. Casey Hudson can't just say, "Yeah I didn't really read it before but now that these things are coming to light and a comparitively small percentage of our custumors are furious, I declare it non-canon." It would just be bad business to declare the thing a bust when it hasn't even been out a week. Now who's being unrealistic?

[ElitePinecone]

JunMadine wrote...

They may have references to Deception in ME3. we may have to find a way to make some of it work.

That would be rather difficult, given nothing actually happens in the novel other than characters dying. 

Nothing in the beta leaked ME3 information that I've read has suggested any link to Deception. The two plot points at the end of the novel - Kai Leng's cybernetic upgrades and the fact that Cerberus is 'reaperising' its soldiers - were hinted at months ago and don't require references to Deception to make obvious to the player. 

Its influence on ME3 is on what is absent rather than what exists. 

[crimzontearz]

ODST 3 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
do you even know how developing works? the "no new features" barrier was reached months ago. Bug removal and polishing do not require a creative lead's full attention. What people want is nothing more than a few official words disavowing this crap so it does not influence canon

Do you seriously think "Disavowing" a recently published book is as easy as that? This represents a significant investment in addition to admitting they're wrong. Meetings must be had, numbers calculated, detailed decisions made... these things take time. Casey Hudson can't just say, "Yeah I didn't really read it before but now that these things are coming to light and a comparitively small percentage of our custumors are furious, I declare it non-canon." It would just be bad business to declare the thing a bust when it hasn't even been out a week. Now who's being unrealistic?

no one wants it now (next few hours or days) the noise is to attract attention and now the specialized press is involved too which means more noise.....more attention

but now that we have established that the creative leads' attention is not held by the game itself at the moment and factoring in the staff is ultra tight lipped it's a safe bet that they are trying to figure out how to deal with this because it IS their job

[LPPrince]

Heraxion wrote...

I Introduce!

Dastardly Dietz

 

I'm still offended by that little detail in the novel.

[Ashira Shepard]

*yawns and stretches* What have I missed?

And for the record, I would apologize if I pissed off a group of people with something I wrote. At least.

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 01 février 2012 - 03:56 .

[Heraxion]

This one was just asking to be made

Modifié par Heraxion, 01 février 2012 - 03:59 .

[LPPrince]

AshiraShepard wrote...

*yawns and stretches* What have I missed?

And for the record, I would apologize if I pissed off a group of people with something I wrote. At least.

I would as well. But so far, nada.

[nitefyre410]

ODST 3 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
do you even know how developing works? the "no new features" barrier was reached months ago. Bug removal and polishing do not require a creative lead's full attention. What people want is nothing more than a few official words disavowing this crap so it does not influence canon

Do you seriously think "Disavowing" a recently published book is as easy as that? This represents a significant investment in addition to admitting they're wrong. Meetings must be had, numbers calculated, detailed decisions made... these things take time. Casey Hudson can't just say, "Yeah I didn't really read it before but now that these things are coming to light and a comparitively small percentage of our custumors are furious, I declare it non-canon." It would just be bad business to declare the thing a bust when it hasn't even been out a week. Now who's being unrealistic?

 


You sir are correct in all instances but  some hard questions about quality control have to in play.  This is more than just a few minor errors that slipped some of things are just  so blantly wrong you have to question the  Editor of the book and how it even slipped through the cracks.   Which means as you said... Meetings and  lots of meetings and a month launch  I doubt this  is proity number 1.  I  doubt action will taken until after March 6th.
 

LPPrince wrote...
*snip*

I'm still offended by that little detail in the novel.

 

You  and me both that is something you just  don't disregard...  I can't even come up with  a comparison  

Modifié par nitefyre410, 01 février 2012 - 04:00 .

[Ashira Shepard]

LPPrince wrote...
I would as well. But so far, nada.

Damnit.

Well nice to see there's at least one user trying to convince us that pessimism is the best route

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 01 février 2012 - 03:59 .

[LPPrince]

If we have to wait till after March 6th, so be it.

We'll keep talking till we get answers.

[Ramus Quaritch]

I really hope this novel does not affect ME3 at all. I would also like to repeat my call that Deception be struck from canon.

[ODST 3]

crimzontearz wrote...

ODST 3 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
do you even know how developing works? the "no new features" barrier was reached months ago. Bug removal and polishing do not require a creative lead's full attention. What people want is nothing more than a few official words disavowing this crap so it does not influence canon

Do you seriously think "Disavowing" a recently published book is as easy as that? This represents a significant investment in addition to admitting they're wrong. Meetings must be had, numbers calculated, detailed decisions made... these things take time. Casey Hudson can't just say, "Yeah I didn't really read it before but now that these things are coming to light and a comparitively small percentage of our custumors are furious, I declare it non-canon." It would just be bad business to declare the thing a bust when it hasn't even been out a week. Now who's being unrealistic?

no one wants it now (next few hours or days) the noise is to attract attention and now the specialized press is involved too which means more noise.....more attention

but now that we have established that the creative leads' attention is not held by the game itself at the moment and factoring in the staff is ultra tight lipped it's a safe bet that they are trying to figure out how to deal with this because it IS their job

Where was it established that the creative leads are no longer needed in the final stages of game development? When are the staff NOT tight-lipped? What would be your detailed plan for rectifying the situation, knowing what little you know about the situation? Do you pull the book from stores? Do you have to make changes to the game if it references the book? Do you just wait a week and let it be once the fury has died down?

[CDRSkyShepard]

LPPrince wrote...

Heraxion wrote...

I Introduce!

Dastardly Dietz

*Snip pic*

I'm still offended by that little detail in the novel.

Hah. Little detail.

Saw the post about someone's sister with autism that got bumped while I was sleeping. I'd like to point out that I also have a sister with autism, but I was way more lucky than they were. My sister was more like Gillian in Ascension: in fact, the scene in the lunchroom was spot-friggin'-on. I'd imagine if Erin had biotics, we would've had a singularity in our elementary school cafeteria, too... It was a major part of Gillian's character that I identified with, and now it's been almost completely forgotten. I mean, does the word "autism" actually show up in the book anywhere?

Oh, in other news, I "Kai Leng'd" my roommate's cereal a few minutes ago. It's delicious.

[nitefyre410]

Ramus Quaritch wrote...

I really hope this novel does not affect ME3 at all. I would also like to repeat my call that Deception be struck from canon.

 


if Deception has some kind affect on ME 3... the Seventh Seal shall be broken by me and the End will begin. 

[Costin_Razvan]

Ramus Quaritch wrote...

I really hope this novel does not affect ME3 at all. I would also like to repeat my call that Deception be struck from canon.

I am not sure what purpose it serves. Gillian was going to lose from the start. 

No one, and I repeat no one kills TIM unless his name is Shepard.

Was it to tie up loose ends with the novel? Okay there's a good portrayal of gang wars and life on the Citadel and Omega, but what's good in that regard is overshadowed by the massive lore issues of it.

I did like how Leng and TIM where portrayed though. For once Cerberus actually comes off as capable and intelligent. Gillian dies, Aria fails in her goal, Anderson fails, Sanders fails and TIM and Leng win. Wasn't surprising but the plot was done well.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 01 février 2012 - 04:05 .

[crimzontearz]

did you Kai Leng his vase too?

[LPPrince]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Heraxion wrote...

I Introduce!

Dastardly Dietz

*Snip pic*

I'm still offended by that little detail in the novel.

Hah. Little detail.

Saw the post about someone's sister with autism that got bumped while I was sleeping. I'd like to point out that I also have a sister with autism, but I was way more lucky than they were. My sister was more like Gillian in Ascension: in fact, the scene in the lunchroom was spot-friggin'-on. I'd imagine if Erin had biotics, we would've had a singularity in our elementary school cafeteria, too... It was a major part of Gillian's character that I identified with, and now it's been almost completely forgotten. I mean, does the word "autism" actually show up in the book anywhere?

Oh, in other news, I "Kai Leng'd" my roommate's cereal a few minutes ago. It's delicious.

I imagine that's what they consider it as.

"A little detail".

ERGH.