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#8601
Yuoaman

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I'd just suggest avoiding any and all comments on these articles, they do nothing but ****** me off.

Half of them didn't even look at the doc, and the ones that did don't seem to realize the seriousness of some of them.

#8602
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Relix28 wrote...

I012345 wrote...

IGN:

http://games.ign.com.../1217690p1.html


Here's a clicky.

games.ign.com/articles/121/1217690p1.html


Our plan is working. We're getting the notice of the big leagues here.

#8603
izmirtheastarach

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Yuoaman wrote...

I012345 wrote...

IGN:

http://games.ign.com.../1217690p1.html

.

AWWW YEAH!

And I just had to catch up though twenty or so pages, THANKS GUYS.


IGN also used your template. Nice work, man.

#8604
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Yuoaman wrote...

I'd just suggest avoiding any and all comments on these articles, they do nothing but ****** me off.

Half of them didn't even look at the doc, and the ones that did don't seem to realize the seriousness of some of them.


You, commenters and commenters. Just be happy about the fact that more people are reading about this. It makes the whole issues louder.

#8605
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brynne wrote...

From the IGN article:

"We've reached out to BioWare and will update with any comment we receive."

Ha!


Just as I expected.

#8606
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Arcadian Legend wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

I012345 wrote...

IGN:

http://games.ign.com.../1217690p1.html


Here's a clicky.

games.ign.com/articles/121/1217690p1.html


Our plan is working. We're getting the notice of the big leagues here.


The good effect of this might be that Bioware will think twice before they decide to screw their own universe again. We'll see.

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So, thus far we've been reported on by: Kotaku, Eurogamer, Giant Bomb, Joystiq, Machinima, and now IGN - not including the smaller sources. Not bad.

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I totally agree with Costin_Razvan, a hundred of pages back some people were complaining how the book's story is completely meaningless, well that's funny, you know what other story is meaningless? ME2's. This sort of rage storm should have started with ME2 instead of Deception.

AshiraShepard wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...
You do realize it kinda makes sense right?

Before people tear appart the writter of Deception perhaps they should look at the begining of ME2.

Yeah you know, Death is such an insiginifcant issue right? Burning up in the atmosphere is no biggie and so is the speed at which Shepard's body would land on the planet.


If we're going to go that route then the entirety of ME should be snorted at as well. FTL? HAH, science-fiction, u so funny.

There's something called "willing suspension of disbelief", is what makes you believe that FTL is possible and enjoy a sci-fi story, but when is pushed to far, you break the suspension of disbelief and you ruin it. Rebuilding Shepard, and with his memories intact neverless, is pushing it too far for even sci-fi standards. Yet we have here, marked with red the batarian raid of pavalen because that is imposible.

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I told y'all.

IGN loves Mass Effect too much to let this go under their radar.

I KNEW they'd contact Bioware. And boom.

This is a milestone in our operation.

Lets keep up the discussion guys, we can do this.

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Huly ****, just by reading the google doc, this book must have been awful. Who let this happen!? BioWare?

Modifié par Jotamide, 01 février 2012 - 05:34 .


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LPPrince wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

I012345 wrote...

IGN:

http://games.ign.com.../1217690p1.html


Here's a clicky.

games.ign.com/articles/121/1217690p1.html


This is what I wanted. We're making this happen.

YES.

We successfully got IGN's attention and they did as I knew they would- contact Bioware.

WE'RE DOING THIS.


Yes....we....are. Eventually, there will be too much pressure for Bioware to stay silent about this. They will HAVE to issue a formal statement about it, otherwise this will continue forever.

Keep it up guys.


Also, I will PM Jeff, so he can add it the the OP.

Modifié par Relix28, 01 février 2012 - 05:45 .


#8612
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LPPrince wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

I012345 wrote...

IGN:

http://games.ign.com.../1217690p1.html


Here's a clicky.

games.ign.com/articles/121/1217690p1.html


This is what I wanted. We're making this happen.

YES.

We successfully got IGN's attention and they did as I knew they would- contact Bioware.

WE'RE DOING THIS.


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#8613
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I012345 wrote...

IGN:

http://games.ign.com.../1217690p1.html


And yet still more people saying things like "lol whiny fanboys are butthurt."

:mellow: Apparently it's not a valid reaction to be angry when someone pisses all over something you like.

#8614
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Jotamide wrote...

Huly ****, jus by reading the google doc this books must've been awful. Who let this happen!? BioWare?


Bioware sure as hell let this happen. And now they are eating the food they cooked.

#8615
LPPrince

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Yeah, let Jeff know. This is the biggest site that's got attention.

#8616
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_symphony wrote...

I totally agree with Costin_Razvan, a hundred of pages back some people were complaining how the book's story is completely meaningless, well that's funny, you know what other story is meaningless? ME2's. This sort of rage storm should have started with ME2 instead of Deception.

AshiraShepard wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...
You do realize it kinda makes sense right?

Before people tear appart the writter of Deception perhaps they should look at the begining of ME2.

Yeah you know, Death is such an insiginifcant issue right? Burning up in the atmosphere is no biggie and so is the speed at which Shepard's body would land on the planet.


If we're going to go that route then the entirety of ME should be snorted at as well. FTL? HAH, science-fiction, u so funny.

There's something called "willing suspension of disbelief", is what makes you believe that FTL is possible and enjoy a sci-fi story, but when is pushed to far, you break the suspension of disbelief and you ruin it. Rebuilding Shepard, and with his memories intact neverless, is pushing it too far for even sci-fi standards. Yet we have here, marked with red the batarian raid of pavalen because that is imposible.


This isn't the place to discuss how ME2 affected the Mass Effect universe - I happened to enjoy it, but different strokes.

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There is another  lore/technology mistake to discuss.

Hologram of TIM in crematorium - in crematorium Gillian, Zon and Leng thought, that hologram is real TIM. But isn't all holograms in ME games transparent, which would be especially vissible on background of fire pilar? All person were only few meters from him.

#8618
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I totally agree with Costin_Razvan, a hundred of pages back some people were complaining how the book's story is completely meaningless, well that's funny, you know what other story is meaningless? ME2's. This sort of rage storm should have started with ME2 instead of Deception.


I think the point of ME2, as was the point of Deception, was to really flesh out the Universe, locations, characters etc.

ME2 to give us TIM, Cerberus, The Quarians etc. Deception to show us Omega more the Citadel, Cerberus and Leng.

Both have major issues.

#8619
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Jotamide wrote...

Huly ****, just by reading the google doc, this book must have been awful. Who let this happen!? BioWare?


Probably partly, in allowing the green light, but the real problem lies at the source:

The author. I'm sure we're all thinking that if Karpyshyn were to work on this like the previous 3 novels it wouldn't be great, but it'd be thousands of miles better than this refuse.

#8620
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AshiraShepard wrote...

I012345 wrote...

IGN:

http://games.ign.com.../1217690p1.html


And yet still more people saying things like "lol whiny fanboys are butthurt."

:mellow: Apparently it's not a valid reaction to be angry when someone pisses all over something you like.


I wonder how they would react if the next Call of Duty had the military composed entirely of princesses riding unicorns into battle?

Even though that would be an awesome game.

#8621
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IGN article? Huh, neat.

Maybe we'll finally get a proper response.

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_symphony wrote...

I totally agree with Costin_Razvan, a hundred of pages back some people were complaining how the book's story is completely meaningless, well that's funny, you know what other story is meaningless? ME2's. This sort of rage storm should have started with ME2 instead of Deception.

AshiraShepard wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...
You do realize it kinda makes sense right?

Before people tear appart the writter of Deception perhaps they should look at the begining of ME2.

Yeah you know, Death is such an insiginifcant issue right? Burning up in the atmosphere is no biggie and so is the speed at which Shepard's body would land on the planet.


If we're going to go that route then the entirety of ME should be snorted at as well. FTL? HAH, science-fiction, u so funny.

There's something called "willing suspension of disbelief", is what makes you believe that FTL is possible and enjoy a sci-fi story, but when is pushed to far, you break the suspension of disbelief and you ruin it. Rebuilding Shepard, and with his memories intact neverless, is pushing it too far for even sci-fi standards. Yet we have here, marked with red the batarian raid of pavalen because that is imposible.


So one game (which is much larger in quantity) having a plot point you disagree with means it's okay for Deception to have this many flaws?

#8623
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Costin_Razvan wrote...

The good effect of this might be that Bioware will think twice before they decide to screw their own universe again. We'll see.


The Mass Effect movie is waiting to say hi.

#8624
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Arcadian Legend wrote...

Jotamide wrote...

Huly ****, just by reading the google doc, this book must have been awful. Who let this happen!? BioWare?


Probably partly, in allowing the green light, but the real problem lies at the source:

The author. I'm sure we're all thinking that if Karpyshyn were to work on this like the previous 3 novels it wouldn't be great, but it'd be thousands of miles better than this refuse.


"Thinks of Kahlee being the main character again."

Please God, no.

#8625
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Arcadian Legend wrote...

Jotamide wrote...

Huly ****, just by reading the google doc, this book must have been awful. Who let this happen!? BioWare?


Probably partly, in allowing the green light, but the real problem lies at the source:

The author. I'm sure we're all thinking that if Karpyshyn were to work on this like the previous 3 novels it wouldn't be great, but it'd be thousands of miles better than this refuse.


If Karpyshyn wrote it, we'd all be arguing about whether the book was good or not because some of us would love it and others would hate it.

Instead, we're all united against Dietz's piece of crap novel.