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[roflchoppaz]

LPPrince wrote...

And if y'all don't mind, I'm ordering you all to get this thread to 400 pages.

That is, if you want to. I know I do.

On it, Commander.

[Doctalen]

I want a garrys mod movie making fun of this book.

[LPPrince]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Alex Arterius wrote...

Has there been any kind of Bioware response to this yet? I can't believe they're just ignoring it as if the whole thing isn't happening :L

Nope. They seem to be ignoring EVERYTHING.

You are misinterpreting the silence.

They aren't ignoring it-

They CAN'T talk about it.

They are under an order of silence until further notice.

They are currently discussing the best course of action.

Damage Control meetings.

Its getting more and more serious as the days pass by- before it was just on the forums, and even THEN they were aware of it(at least Karin Weekes was, and she said she couldn't comment on it then).

Now its EVERYWHERE.

Just relax, and keep posting. Heh.

[Arcadian Legend]

roflchoppaz wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

And if y'all don't mind, I'm ordering you all to get this thread to 400 pages.

That is, if you want to. I know I do.

On it, Commander.

Of course, we would have done it anyway. 

[Chewin]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Alex Arterius wrote...
Has there been any kind of Bioware response to this yet? I can't believe they're just ignoring it as if the whole thing isn't happening :L

Nope. They seem to be ignoring EVERYTHING.

They'll either stay silent or "announce" something soon and are currently planning on how they are going to proceed with this.

Modifié par Chewin3, 01 février 2012 - 06:08 .

[Rudi Media]

 blub
http://rudimedia.dev...t.com/#/d4ob80x

[LPPrince]

roflchoppaz wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

And if y'all don't mind, I'm ordering you all to get this thread to 400 pages.

That is, if you want to. I know I do.

On it, Commander.

If I recall correctly, I was already deemed everyone's Shepard, so hell yes Ms. Choppaz.

[LPPrince]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

And if y'all don't mind, I'm ordering you all to get this thread to 400 pages.

That is, if you want to. I know I do.

On it, Commander.

Of course, we would have done it anyway. 

Which is why I'm not afraid to fall asleep and let this thread wait till I wake.

[JeffZero]

ElitePinecone wrote...

M.C.Tales wrote...

I was going to order Deception, but I saw the reviews and how the book violated established lore so many times. Having now read the spoilers as well, I'm glad I didn't, as I would have been in for disappointment and tears for the deaths of certain characters (and would have facepalmed at Kai Leng's antics).

The deaths were the worst, for me. So wooden, so stilted and so pointless. None of them were necessary and all of them came about because the characters were behaving in completely stupid ways that didn't fit with the personalities we know. 

Same. Death is fine. Death like this is just... Disgusting.

[Doctalen]

Rudi Media wrote...

 blub
http://rudimedia.dev...t.com/#/d4ob80x

LMAO. That's the best one I've seen

[JamesFaith]

Fenris_13 wrote...

So besides the cereal eating, did Dietz manage to portray Leng similiarly like in Retribution?

He is still male. I think. I hope.

[Chewin]

LPPrince wrote...

And if y'all don't mind, I'm ordering you all to get this thread to 400 pages.

That is, if you want to. I know I do.

Don't get too greedy when we finally reach that number...

[JeffZero]

We need to be prepared for the possibility that this thread will be shut down once an announcement has been made, by the way.

[AVPen]

HiroVoid wrote...

I like that IGN actually pointed out the bigger things wrong with the book rather than the more nit-picky stuff.

It greatly helps that we reorganized the Document last night, I think - it makes the BIG issues and errors a lot more noticable to the readers.

[Iohanna]

52 more pages to this thread... Heavy risk.... but the siiiiize.

[ThkMarv]

The open letter the mass effect wiki has written, told to post here so i do ... Hope bioware gets the attention of this!

Dear Casey Hudson, Mac Walters, William C. Dietz and the teams at BioWare and Electronic Arts,

Over the last 5 years the Mass Effect Wiki community has built the most comprehensive guide to the Mass Effect Universe outside of BioWare, and we have thoroughly enjoyed doing it. While editors and admins come and go, we can be certain of one thing; we all love the Mass Effect Universe and wish to see its success continue. We cannot express how proud we were when Mac Walters revealed that the team had used the wiki in the past. The incredible amount of work that the teams in Edmonton and Montreal have put into the franchise leaves us in awe and we are eagerly awaiting the next installment in March. To us the Mass Effect franchise represents the pinnacle of modern gaming. Few other franchises, if any, tell such engaging stories with such deep and varied characters, fewer still challenge our morality in such compelling ways, and almost no others do it while showing such a respect for the diversity of its audience.

It is for these reasons we are so incredibly disappointed with the latest Mass Effect novel, Mass Effect: Deception. While we are all too aware that it is impossible to always please your multitude of fans, especially while maintaining your artistic integrity, we believe that the issues in Mass Effect: Deception betray far more troubling issues than artistic differences.

Mass Effect: Deception features a considerable number of errors that contradict well-established canon. We are aware of the difficulties in maintaining a consistent universe, especially one so large and subject to player involvement, however the nature of these errors shows substantial disrespect to the universe and the audience. Major plot points of the novel contradict previous stories and established lore, while one plot point in particular completely invalidates the plot of Mass Effect: Invasion, a comic apparently set following the events of Deception.

There are also a host of minor issues that expose the author's complete lack of knowledge about the universe, with descriptions of locations that no longer exist by the time of the novel and wholly inaccurate descriptions of the universe's technology and cultures. Many of these errors could have been corrected by visiting our wiki, and we would have been more than glad to assist the author if help was requested.

These errors are particularly notable to editors of the Mass Effect Wiki as it presents us with huge challenges. We are faced with creating and updating a considerable number of articles with contradictory and incongruous information. Like you, we care about the quality of our content, and we feel that the content of Mass Effect: Deception forces us to compromise on it. We would like to suggest that Mass Effect: Deception not be recognised as a canonical part of the Mass Effect franchise. This would preserve the integrity of the canon, and make our jobs a lot easier.

Mass Effect: Deception seems to be a lazy attempt to cash in on the good will of the Mass Effect fan, and these errors appear to be the symptoms of a growing ambivalence to the quality of Mass Effect content, and the feelings of your biggest fans.

We have no demands; we will not ask you to fire anyone and we will not ask you to apologise. We only wish to express our deep disappointment in the quality of this product in the hopes that in the future more thought will be put into the quality of ancillary products, and more respect given to the Mass Effect Community.

Sincerely,

The Mass Effect Wiki Community

[Ashira Shepard]

LPPrince wrote...

And if y'all don't mind, I'm ordering you all to get this thread to 400 pages.

That is, if you want to. I know I do.

Yessir! *salute* 

[Costin_Razvan]

Chewin3 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

And if y'all don't mind, I'm ordering you all to get this thread to 400 pages.

That is, if you want to. I know I do.

Don't get too greedy when we finally reach that number...

The thread should easily reach 1000 pages. I wonder if Bioware will actually do something.

[ddv.rsa]

JeffZero wrote...

ddv,

I'm working as fast as I can, I assure you. Full-time college and part-time work and public transportation all limit my time significantly.

Don't worry, I appreciate that university isn't easy. But hopefully the efforts you and the rest of us are making here will pay off. The fact that the media is taking notice is a good sign.

[Ashira Shepard]

Doctalen wrote...

I want a garrys mod movie making fun of this book.

This idea is magical. 

[loungeshep]

I have to laugh, I pre-ordered this book and now it won't let me download it. It's as if my nook account is embarrassed by it.

I'd pre-ordered it like a month ago or something...I'm in no hurry, from everything it sounds like I pre-wasted my money.

[ThkMarv]

 The open letter the Mass Effect Wiki has written, hope that this gets the attention of BioWare, please let Deception be non-canon PLEASE!

Dear Casey Hudson, Mac Walters, William C. Dietz and the teams at BioWare and Electronic Arts,

Over the last 5 years the Mass Effect Wiki community has built the most comprehensive guide to the Mass Effect Universe outside of BioWare, and we have thoroughly enjoyed doing it. While editors and admins come and go, we can be certain of one thing; we all love the Mass Effect Universe and wish to see its success continue. We cannot express how proud we were when Mac Walters revealed that the team had used the wiki in the past. The incredible amount of work that the teams in Edmonton and Montreal have put into the franchise leaves us in awe and we are eagerly awaiting the next installment in March. To us the Mass Effect franchise represents the pinnacle of modern gaming. Few other franchises, if any, tell such engaging stories with such deep and varied characters, fewer still challenge our morality in such compelling ways, and almost no others do it while showing such a respect for the diversity of its audience.

It is for these reasons we are so incredibly disappointed with the latest Mass Effect novel, Mass Effect: Deception. While we are all too aware that it is impossible to always please your multitude of fans, especially while maintaining your artistic integrity, we believe that the issues in Mass Effect: Deception betray far more troubling issues than artistic differences.

Mass Effect: Deception features a considerable number of errors that contradict well-established canon. We are aware of the difficulties in maintaining a consistent universe, especially one so large and subject to player involvement, however the nature of these errors shows substantial disrespect to the universe and the audience. Major plot points of the novel contradict previous stories and established lore, while one plot point in particular completely invalidates the plot of Mass Effect: Invasion, a comic apparently set following the events of Deception.

There are also a host of minor issues that expose the author's complete lack of knowledge about the universe, with descriptions of locations that no longer exist by the time of the novel and wholly inaccurate descriptions of the universe's technology and cultures. Many of these errors could have been corrected by visiting our wiki, and we would have been more than glad to assist the author if help was requested.

These errors are particularly notable to editors of the Mass Effect Wiki as it presents us with huge challenges. We are faced with creating and updating a considerable number of articles with contradictory and incongruous information. Like you, we care about the quality of our content, and we feel that the content of Mass Effect: Deception forces us to compromise on it. We would like to suggest that Mass Effect: Deception not be recognised as a canonical part of the Mass Effect franchise. This would preserve the integrity of the canon, and make our jobs a lot easier.

Mass Effect: Deception seems to be a lazy attempt to cash in on the good will of the Mass Effect fan, and these errors appear to be the symptoms of a growing ambivalence to the quality of Mass Effect content, and the feelings of your biggest fans.

We have no demands; we will not ask you to fire anyone and we will not ask you to apologise. We only wish to express our deep disappointment in the quality of this product in the hopes that in the future more thought will be put into the quality of ancillary products, and more respect given to the Mass Effect Community.

Sincerely,

The Mass Effect Wiki Community 

[Fenris_13]

Chewin3 wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Alex Arterius wrote...
Has there been any kind of Bioware response to this yet? I can't believe they're just ignoring it as if the whole thing isn't happening :L

Nope. They seem to be ignoring EVERYTHING.

They'll either stay silent or "announce" something soon and are currently planning on how they are going to proceed with this.

I'm hoping it's the latter.

[ElitePinecone]

Fenris_13 wrote...

So besides the cereal eating, did Dietz manage to portray Leng similiarly like in Retribution?

No, Kai Leng wasn't at all clinical or methodical. 

He winked at an asari after finding them 'whorish' and disgusting in Retribution, managed to get himself captured by a group of amateur biotic groupies, fell in love (!), took pleasure in salarian curry and Mexican food...

Oh, there was one excellently written scene where he infiltrated a morgue, hired two mercs to help him then substituted one of them, still alive, for the body he was tasked to steal. *That* was probably the best scene in the book, and definitely showed us a glimpse of Kai Leng as a ruthless killer. 

[JamesFaith]

LPPrince wrote...

And if y'all don't mind, I'm ordering you all to get this thread to 400 pages.

That is, if you want to. I know I do.

Didn't you forget one 0 in that number? I know you wanted it. I know.