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Mass Effect: Deception Discussion Thread (Updated 2/2/2012) *Now with 30% more links!*


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#8801
izmirtheastarach

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Random Jerkface wrote...

Book is book. Don't care. You care. Too bad for you. Deal with it. 

They are dealing with it.

This begs the question of why you are here.


This thread is in fact how we are dealing with it.

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Khran1505 wrote...
It's been an honour to be part of a BioWare Social Network that is fully united against a common enemy. No matter where future DLCs, updates and the upcoming Mass Effect 3 might take us, we will always remember in our darkest days this shining light of hope that we, as fans, can stand together.

The enemy you speak of can't be Bioware can it? Because if this was any other game company, no response would be expected or given. You think fans Infinity Ward's material would clammor for change after the release of a crap product? Of course not because Infinity Ward generally makes illogical crap and because they don't have the relationship with their fans the way Bioware does. We should remember that Bioware is a special developer and not take the disrespect too far.

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Iohanna wrote...
If you don't feel represented that's fine, and I'm sorry you feel that way. But don't think that because you don't fit on it, that this isn't a battle worth fighting. I love Mass Effect, and I believe it deserves better than this book. I'm sure the others here that support this share the same sentiment
Peace. :wizard:

Thank you, I appreciate your response. 

Up until this morning, after finishing the book, I saw the errors but in the big picture it didn't matter. I went to Mass Effect Wiki because I did see errors and then I saw that letter. I was disappointed in that letter. 

I love Bioware, I have played and enjoyed their games for a long time and will most likely continue to do so. But at the same time, I do like or condone the behavior and statements I have seen on this thread or many others like it or that letter. 

I am a part of this community. I said my piece and realize there is nothing more to do or say. It will play out as it may. 

Thank you again, 

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Random Jerkface wrote...

Book is book. Don't care. You care. Too bad for you. Deal with it. 

They are dealing with it.

This begs the question of why you are here.


Delivering high-handed lectures in Dietzian prose, apparently.

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Random Jerkface wrote...

Book is book. Don't care. You care. Too bad for you. Deal with it. 

They are dealing with it.

This begs the question of why you are here.


And so we reach the part where we get back to talking about Deception in unity. These little fights are breaking us up here.

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ODST 3 wrote...

Then why is your opinion on my so-called "mysogynism" relevant? You initiated the opinion sharing.


My oppinion on misogyny is pretty valid. With, you know, being a woman and all and experiencing it firsthand.

I did not innitiate any opinion sharing. I pointed out the misogyny in your comment.

And I'm done engaging you. This discussion is getting way too off-topic.

And deception still sucks.

#8807
izmirtheastarach

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MissOuJ wrote...

And deception still sucks.


It really does, doesn't it.

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Guys, come on, stay on topic - no need to fight in this thread. And nice to see Destructioid's got their hands in this pot as well.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

Book is book. Don't care. You care. Too bad for you. Deal with it. 

They are dealing with it.

This begs the question of why you are here.


Delivering high-handed lectures in Dietzian prose, apparently.


I. Do not. Know of what. You. Speak of. Sir.

#8810
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Hey, flame baits, keep this on topic.

Deception is a prime example of what happens when you hand a solid, burgeoning series (with admitted flaws) to an outsider. BioWare needs to respond to this soon. At least before the ME3 demo arrives. Unfortunately, I'm betting that they're just going to wait for the massive praise all the gaming websites will throw at the demo to overwhelm the negative response to Deception.

...maybe this was why they pushed back the demo so far? XD
/obviouslynot.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

Book is book. Don't care. You care. Too bad for you. Deal with it. 

They are dealing with it.

This begs the question of why you are here.


Delivering high-handed lectures in Dietzian prose, apparently.

Still too complicated? Yikes! I am out of my depths. If reading comprehension is that much of a problem for you, I suggest professional help. Good luck! 

#8812
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izmirtheastarach wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...

And deception still sucks.


It really does, doesn't it.


Its not gonna get less sucky any time soon.

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This book is so bad, just hearing about it gave me cancer.

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KnightOfTwo

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Hello fellow Decepticons, anything new happened since yesterday?

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KnightOfTwo wrote...

Hello fellow Decepticons, anything new happened since yesterday?


IGN reported it, and contacted Bioware.

Which was one of my original goals. We succeeded.

IGN is trying to get Bioware's attention right along with us.

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Someone needs to make a video of different characters from different series, games, films etc reacting poorly to Deception. Like a montage of suck.

#8817
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AshiraShepard wrote...

Someone needs to make a video of different characters from different series, games, films etc reacting poorly to Deception. Like a montage of suck.


I love the ideas some of y'all come up with.

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GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

This book is so bad, just hearing about it gave me cancer.


My condolences.

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MissOuJ wrote...

ODST 3 wrote...

Then why is your opinion on my so-called "mysogynism" relevant? You initiated the opinion sharing.


My oppinion on misogyny is pretty valid. With, you know, being a woman and all and experiencing it firsthand.

I did not innitiate any opinion sharing. I pointed out the misogyny in your comment.

And I'm done engaging you. This discussion is getting way too off-topic.

And deception still sucks.

Done engaging because you've admitted to a double standard in your universe? Same thing with my ex. You realize that going to extra lengths to separate the sexes as you are only heightens sexism and damages unity? If that's feminism, it's not based on equality.

So all it takes to have a valid opinion is to experience something firsthand? Therefore my opinion on how women should act is very very since I've experienced plenty of that first hand. <3

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LPPrince wrote...

GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

This book is so bad, just hearing about it gave me cancer.


My condolences.


In that case we should be near-death.

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KnightOfTwo wrote...

Hello fellow Decepticons, anything new happened since yesterday?


Whoa, how have we not called ourselves that before? That's awesome.

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AshiraShepard wrote...

Someone needs to make a video of different characters from different series, games, films etc reacting poorly to Deception. Like a montage of suck.


I'm expecting dramatic readings myself. Of the relay-sex-jump and cereal-thievery scenes at least.

That would be epic.

#8823
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Still too complicated? Yikes! I am out of my depths. If reading comprehension is that much of a problem for you, I suggest professional help. Good luck! 

I'm not trying to derail the thread and/or get it locked, but I fail to see your point. You come into a thread full of people whose opinions are opposite yours, sermonising about a letter that they had nothing to do with. Then, when called on it, flamebait. It's one thing to disagree with either this thread or the MEWiki's letter, but it's another to try to convince people they are wrong for disliking a subpar product - you can't honestly think that's a "logical" position. If it doesn't bother you, via con Dios. But clearly, that isn't the case for everyone.

Done engaging because you've admitted to a double standard in your universe? Same thing with my ex. You realize that going to extra lengths to separate the sexes as you are only heightens sexism and damages unity? If that's feminism, it's not based on equality.

Not going to get into this, but ignoring double-standards does not make them disappear. You can't change social norms by pretending they don't exist; it's like "colourblindness" - just silly.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 01 février 2012 - 07:07 .


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ODST 3 wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...

ODST 3 wrote...

Then why is your opinion on my so-called "mysogynism" relevant? You initiated the opinion sharing.


My oppinion on misogyny is pretty valid. With, you know, being a woman and all and experiencing it firsthand.

I did not innitiate any opinion sharing. I pointed out the misogyny in your comment.

And I'm done engaging you. This discussion is getting way too off-topic.

And deception still sucks.

Done engaging because you've admitted to a double standard in your universe? Same thing with my ex. You realize that going to extra lengths to separate the sexes as you are only heightens sexism and damages unity? If that's feminism, it's not based on equality.

So all it takes to have a valid opinion is to experience something firsthand? Therefore my opinion on how women should act is very very since I've experienced plenty of that first hand. <3


If you want to discuss these matters then make your own thread, this one already has its own topic, as you can plainly see.

#8825
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If I can take away anything from Deception, it's the need to have a gyrocycle ready after doing anything.
In fact, I want one to be ready for Shep. AT ALL TIMES.
Punch Khalisa in the face and TO THE GYROCYLCE! 

Modifié par Eski.Moe, 01 février 2012 - 07:05 .