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LPPrince wrote...

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Alright, just put the Kai Leng/Nick error into Lore Errors - I also made it a red error, since it's kind of ridiculous that Nick doesn't remember the GUY WHO SHOT HIM NOT MANY MONTHS AGO.


I don't think its THAT serious. Honestly.


Well maybe not red serious, but still pretty ridiculous.

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LPPrince wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Alright, just put the Kai Leng/Nick error into Lore Errors - I also made it a red error, since it's kind of ridiculous that Nick doesn't remember the GUY WHO SHOT HIM NOT MANY MONTHS AGO.


I don't think its THAT serious. Honestly.

 


Well if someone shot me... I would remember there face ... just saying. 

#9503
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I just checked Dietz from Wikipedia and it appears he is 68 years old.


O.o

Is his age even relevant?


That is SO irrelevent to anything.

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Jcmor wrote...

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I just checked Dietz from Wikipedia and it appears he is 68 years old.


O.o

Is his age even relevant?


I suppose if you want to stereotype him as being a person that might have trouble understanding video games. Though that is pretty age-ist.

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Yuoaman wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Alright, just put the Kai Leng/Nick error into Lore Errors - I also made it a red error, since it's kind of ridiculous that Nick doesn't remember the GUY WHO SHOT HIM NOT MANY MONTHS AGO.


I don't think its THAT serious. Honestly.


Well maybe not red serious, but still pretty ridiculous.


DEFINITELY not red. Don't undermine the page.

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I found another mistake in the novel that isn't on the list! When Nick is dying he tells Kahlee and Anderson about Kai Leng like he has never met him before! "A man called Leng," he says. When Kai Leng is also revealed to the entire Biotic Underground a few times and Nick doesn't seem to notice him.

In Retribution, Kai Leng convinces Nick to lead him around the academy, with the intent of using him as a shield. When things go wrong Kai Leng ends up shooting Nick in the stomach. This is mentioned at the beginning of Deception.


If you think it's worthy, could someone add it  to the .doc for me.


Consider it added. Anyone find anything for timeline and technology Oddities?

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I blame BioWare more than the author... BioWare employed this author, and didn't check his work, and let this ship


I just checked Dietz from Wikipedia and it appears he is 68 years old. I'm not saying that he isn't responsible for his actions, senile or anything but maybe this should have been taken in account when EA, whatever looked for someone to replace Drew.


He also looks like such a sad-sack, too. Almost makes me feel bad for the hate storm he has brought upon himself. Although...he did bring this on himself


Yes he did but damn it's kinda sad, 68 years old guy writing video game tie-in novels.

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If he is on twitter and facebook, then he's opening himself up the feedback from his readers. No one is calling his home or showing up at his door. His book is terrible, and he's trying to trick people into buying it now. My sympathy for him went out the door with that tweet, but still. I don't think a few tweets are going to hurt him.

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LPPrince wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Alright, just put the Kai Leng/Nick error into Lore Errors - I also made it a red error, since it's kind of ridiculous that Nick doesn't remember the GUY WHO SHOT HIM NOT MANY MONTHS AGO.


I don't think its THAT serious. Honestly.


Well maybe not red serious, but still pretty ridiculous.


DEFINITELY not red. Don't undermine the page.


Alright, it's down to blue - BUT THAT IS AS FAR AS I'M WILLING TO GO.

(Unless that undermines the page, too, I have only the one perspective.)

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Whoops, never mind.

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LPPrince wrote...

Jcmor wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

I just checked Dietz from Wikipedia and it appears he is 68 years old.


O.o

Is his age even relevant?


That is SO irrelevent to anything.


For me it's relevant and that's what matters to me. I sure as hell won't start harassing old man via twitter or otherwise and if you guys want to maintain any moral higher ground here, you may also want to think how far you are willing to go.

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izmirtheastarach

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I agree with Blue.

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Arcadian Legend wrote...

macdadams2 wrote...

macdadams2 wrote...

I found another mistake in the novel that isn't on the list! When Nick is dying he tells Kahlee and Anderson about Kai Leng like he has never met him before! "A man called Leng," he says. When Kai Leng is also revealed to the entire Biotic Underground a few times and Nick doesn't seem to notice him.

In Retribution, Kai Leng convinces Nick to lead him around the academy, with the intent of using him as a shield. When things go wrong Kai Leng ends up shooting Nick in the stomach. This is mentioned at the beginning of Deception.


If you think it's worthy, could someone add it  to the .doc for me.


Consider it added. Anyone find anything for timeline and technology Oddities?


Several of the non-red/blue errors could probably be considered Oddities.

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Yuoaman wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Alright, just put the Kai Leng/Nick error into Lore Errors - I also made it a red error, since it's kind of ridiculous that Nick doesn't remember the GUY WHO SHOT HIM NOT MANY MONTHS AGO.


I don't think its THAT serious. Honestly.


Well maybe not red serious, but still pretty ridiculous.


DEFINITELY not red. Don't undermine the page.


Alright, it's down to blue - BUT THAT IS AS FAR AS I'M WILLING TO GO.

(Unless that undermines the page, too, I have only the one perspective.)

Considering Nick actually spent some time being tricked into being Kai Leng's henchmen, it certainly deserves some note.

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Stop harassing the man. Yes, he wrote a pretty bad novel, but calm the **** down.


Who is harrasing him? I see no evidence of this.


The closest I've come to harassing is making a few snarky comments, I'm not going to threaten the guy or insult him outright (yet). I have no problem with the guy outside of this one issue, and it's a pretty huge issue.

Yet? Please let that be a joke.
As much as I love Bioware and their games, they're the ones who should take the blame for this massive failure. THEY are the ones who green lighted this novel, and decided to make it available for purchase. The Dietz guy was hired to write a ME novel, he failed miserably, but posting **** on his twitter and facebook isn't going to change anything. I think they guy realizes by now that he screwed up, but Bioware should have caught the majority of these mistakes in the first place. Give the man a break.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

If he is on twitter and facebook, then he's opening himself up the feedback from his readers. No one is calling his home or showing up at his door. His book is terrible, and he's trying to trick people into buying it now. My sympathy for him went out the door with that tweet, but still. I don't think a few tweets are going to hurt him.


But it woud also look bad to potential publishers if he didn't take some pride in his work.

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ZLurps wrote...

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I blame BioWare more than the author... BioWare employed this author, and didn't check his work, and let this ship


I just checked Dietz from Wikipedia and it appears he is 68 years old. I'm not saying that he isn't responsible for his actions, senile or anything but maybe this should have been taken in account when EA, whatever looked for someone to replace Drew.


He also looks like such a sad-sack, too. Almost makes me feel bad for the hate storm he has brought upon himself. Although...he did bring this on himself


Yes he did but damn it's kinda sad, 68 years old guy writing video game tie-in novels.


I don't know, I think that would be pretty awesome, from my perspective.

Though, I'd try to make them... y'know... good.

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Dietz is 68?

Doesn't look it TBQH.

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The PLC wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Stop harassing the man. Yes, he wrote a pretty bad novel, but calm the **** down.


Who is harrasing him? I see no evidence of this.


The closest I've come to harassing is making a few snarky comments, I'm not going to threaten the guy or insult him outright (yet). I have no problem with the guy outside of this one issue, and it's a pretty huge issue.

Yet? Please let that be a joke.
As much as I love Bioware and their games, they're the ones who should take the blame for this massive failure. THEY are the ones who green lighted this novel, and decided to make it available for purchase. The Dietz guy was hired to write a ME novel, he failed miserably, but posting **** on his twitter and facebook isn't going to change anything. I think they guy realizes by now that he screwed up, but Bioware should have caught the majority of these mistakes in the first place. Give the man a break.


Yeah, it's a joke - pretty much anything and everything I put into parenthesis are my attempts at humor.

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LPPrince wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Alright, just put the Kai Leng/Nick error into Lore Errors - I also made it a red error, since it's kind of ridiculous that Nick doesn't remember the GUY WHO SHOT HIM NOT MANY MONTHS AGO.


I don't think its THAT serious. Honestly.


Since I have not read that particular scene, this could be a serious issue, but looking at the excerpt provided earlier this is just a case of Nick telling Anderson and Kahlee about a Man he did not know they were aware of. Thus just "A man named Leng [did this?].

I can not see what that has to do with Nick remembering him or not, but since I did not read the full novel could someone clear this up?

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Not sure if someone pointed this out already, but IGN has a story on the front page about this.

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I say we all start returning the copies we have. If the fandom rejects the book and refuses to buy it, that would be the strongest message we can send.

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OniRogue wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Alright, just put the Kai Leng/Nick error into Lore Errors - I also made it a red error, since it's kind of ridiculous that Nick doesn't remember the GUY WHO SHOT HIM NOT MANY MONTHS AGO.


I don't think its THAT serious. Honestly.


Since I have not read that particular scene, this could be a serious issue, but looking at the excerpt provided earlier this is just a case of Nick telling Anderson and Kahlee about a Man he did not know they were aware of. Thus just "A man named Leng [did this?].

I can not see what that has to do with Nick remembering him or not, but since I did not read the full novel could someone clear this up?


That's probably why it's better off blue than red - since it could just be Nick oddly prioritizing things... though I think I'd open with "the ****er who shot me back at the Academy, that guy".

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_symphony wrote...

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Dietz must hate us.

I can't possibly imagine why


If he can see through the fog, he should realise its not personal, were just fans of the series who are upset with the lore being disrespected.

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Has this Tweet by Casey Hudson been brought up? Deception related don't worry. https://twitter.com/...362747836604417  

Modifié par SamT3N7, 01 février 2012 - 10:52 .