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[Arcadian Legend]

LumpOfCole wrote...

Mass Effect Deception: Rage Comic Edition

Prologue:

http://i.imgur.com/AELwf.jpg

That was just...

[didymos1120]

You've got to love Gillian's logic here:

Because if Cerberus was anywhere, it would have to be represented on Omega.

Now, as of Retribution, this happens to be true, but no one told Gillian about that. If you were just working on general knowledge, Omega is about the last place you'd expect to find a significant Cerberus presence.

[JoeLaTurkey]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

LumpOfCole wrote...

Mass Effect Deception: Rage Comic Edition

Prologue:

http://i.imgur.com/AELwf.jpg

That was just...

*snip*

Waaaay ahead of ya  

[izmirtheastarach]

didymos1120 wrote...

You've got to love Gillian's logic here:

Because if Cerberus was anywhere, it would have to be represented on Omega.

Now, as of Retribution, this happens to be true, but no one told Gillian about that. If you were just working on general knowledge, Omega is about the last place you'd expect to find a significant Cerberus presence.

How about...maybe..Earth?

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 02 février 2012 - 12:03 .

[JoePilot]

I'm out for a while, ladies and gents.  Good Night, and Good Luck, keep up the good fight, I'll leave you newcomers with a couple of things I did to amuse myself earlier:


1. Wrex's reaction to ME Deception (image)

2.  Bioware exclusive ME3 screenshot reconciling rickshaws into ME universe (image)

Adios.

[Arcadian Legend]

didymos1120 wrote...

You've got to love Gillian's logic here:

Because if Cerberus was anywhere, it would have to be represented on Omega.

Now, as of Retribution, this happens to be true, but no one told Gillian about that. If you were just working on general knowledge, Omega is about the last place you'd expect to find a significant Cerberus presence.

Yeah, you'ld think somewhere remote, in the middle of nowhere in space.

[MisterJB]

didymos1120 wrote...

You've got to love Gillian's logic here:

Because if Cerberus was anywhere, it would have to be represented on Omega.

Now, as of Retribution, this happens to be true, but no one told Gillian about that. If you were just working on general knowledge, Omega is about the last place you'd expect to find a significant Cerberus presence.

This is the same girl who tought she could convince TIM to go to Omega in person, alone and unarmed.

[Luigitornado]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The novel was probably approved by someone high up in the ME Team.

Thing is I very much doubt this person was a writer, seeing as the writers have had a lot on their plates. Still it's not an excuse for Bioware.

Almost done with the book, and in my opinion all of you are drama queens. The writing is not up to snuff, and there are gramatical errors and such.

The story itself is pretty solid, but the lore issues are massive.

The only massive lore issues would be the ages of Gillian and Nick, and the whole Level 1, 2, 3 ADEPT biotic stuff. Sure there are a lot of small nit-picky stuff, which would putt-off most of the princess-and-the-pea folks on this board, but like you said the story is enjoyable enough for me to over look it.

[Arcadian Legend]

JoeLaTurkey wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

LumpOfCole wrote...

Mass Effect Deception: Rage Comic Edition

Prologue:

http://i.imgur.com/AELwf.jpg

That was just...

*snip*

Waaaay ahead of ya  

Hunger/rage fuelled Zoidberg is best Zoidberg.

[didymos1120]

Ah, I see Luigi's dropped in for another "Y'all jus' nitpickin'" drive-by post.

[Ashira Shepard]

ZLurps wrote...
It's confusing really. There has been idea, someone posted that it might have been because killing kids would have been too controversial. I think that is a good guess. Same explanation might work with Gillian's magically cured autism. Killing disabled person and all.

Because people still have this issue with the whole thing.

I still find it funny that in some works, something inherently more disturbing is considered more acceptable than something which is a lesser evil. 

Torture, drugs, rape, mind rape, murder, other crime, war, deaths-

OMG A DEAD CHILD, STOP EVERYTHING. THIS IS TOO MUCH. 

[CDRSkyShepard]

Yuoaman wrote...

I don't really see why you have any problem with this - it's our free time, and we're free to do what we want with it.

You know, I love how "nitpicking" has become a very negative term. There used to be a day where "nitpicking" meant that you were a genuine fan that cared about a franchise enough to point out discrepencies...not necessarily to say "Haha creators of lore, I am smarter than you!" but to legitimately help out the creators of lore. For any of you all that are Star Trek fans out there, I recommend "The Nitpicker's Guide for Next Generation Trekkers." It goes through every episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation and points out every inconsistency like we have been doing for Deception. The author doesn't do it out of spite, he does it out of genuine love and care for the lore. I can safely say that my involvement here with Deception is out of genuine love and care for the Mass Effect story. Most likely, that's why everyone is here: because we care.

Now, all the sudden nitpicking is a form of trolling. Sure, it might be on the edge, but only if you do it because you want to go looking for something to complain about for the sake of complaining. Granted, the BSN is rife with such things, but I highly doubt the vast majority of us are that way.

There's also a certain bit of fun in nitpicking for me at least...it challenges me to question what the loremasters have put in front of me, to make sure I'm not just being fed crap without thinking about it. With a project such as this, once I find major plot inconsistencies, I start looking at the finer details to see how many of those are messed up in addition to the bigger things. Once you notice something hugely wrong, you start to zero in on other things that may have escaped your attention had the other, bigger thing not caught your eye in the first place.

Amirite, folks?

[kidbd15]

Balmung31 wrote...

kidbd15 wrote...

I blame BioWare more than the author... BioWare employed this author, and didn't check his work, and let this ship

If the reason was because their attention was far more focused on ME3, I'd be willing to give them a pass. 

That's not to say this book shouldn't be disavowed by them, it should.  I just think Bioware has a heckuva lot on their plate with ME3.

Not a reason, at all.  If they didn't have the time or resources to check the man's work, then DON'T commission the book at all.  At the end of the day, every single ME item, from the games down to the smallest key chain, should be checked.  Quality control.  The ME name has standards to live up to, that's quality controls job.

[Tiger]

JoePilot wrote...

2.  Bioware exclusive ME3 screenshot reconciling rickshaws into ME universe (image)

Adios.

You sir win. LOLOL

[Iohanna]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Amirite, folks?

Yes! A thousand times yes. Couldn't agree with you more.

[ZLurps]

AshiraShepard wrote...

ZLurps wrote...
It's confusing really. There has been idea, someone posted that it might have been because killing kids would have been too controversial. I think that is a good guess. Same explanation might work with Gillian's magically cured autism. Killing disabled person and all.

Because people still have this issue with the whole thing.

I still find it funny that in some works, something inherently more disturbing is considered more acceptable than something which is a lesser evil. 

Torture, drugs, rape, mind rape, murder, other crime, war, deaths-

OMG A DEAD CHILD, STOP EVERYTHING. THIS IS TOO MUCH. 

Yep but even if they kept characters younger, would you buy 13 - 15 years old Gillian and Nick travelling to Omega and surving there?

[Heraxion]

Luigitornado wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The novel was probably approved by someone high up in the ME Team.

Thing is I very much doubt this person was a writer, seeing as the writers have had a lot on their plates. Still it's not an excuse for Bioware.

Almost done with the book, and in my opinion all of you are drama queens. The writing is not up to snuff, and there are gramatical errors and such.

The story itself is pretty solid, but the lore issues are massive.

The only massive lore issues would be the ages of Gillian and Nick, and the whole Level 1, 2, 3 ADEPT biotic stuff. Sure there are a lot of small nit-picky stuff, which would putt-off most of the princess-and-the-pea folks on this board, but like you said the story is enjoyable enough for me to over look it.

Don't forget how Greyson gave Gillian a jewel before the events of Ascension, that depicted what happens to him in Retribution.

Modifié par Heraxion, 02 février 2012 - 12:11 .

[Thargorichiban]

annihilator27 wrote...


From the support thread lmao.

I so should be doing other things right now... Poorly edited image ahead!

[izmirtheastarach]

Luigitornado wrote...

The only massive lore issues would be the ages of Gillian and Nick, and the whole Level 1, 2, 3 ADEPT biotic stuff. Sure there are a lot of small nit-picky stuff, which would putt-off most of the princess-and-the-pea folks on this board, but like you said the story is enjoyable enough for me to over look it.

That's fine for you. I hope you enjoy it. But a lot of people disagree with you. And that is that. Hooray!

[The Love Runner]

Here's Batman's reaction when he saw what the book did to Harvey Dent:

[ZLurps]

Hi-Res Kai Leng concept art for photoshop fun:

www.masseffect-universe.de/images/screenshots/692.jpg

[_symphony]

kidbd15 wrote...

Balmung31 wrote...

kidbd15 wrote...

I blame BioWare more than the author... BioWare employed this author, and didn't check his work, and let this ship

If the reason was because their attention was far more focused on ME3, I'd be willing to give them a pass. 

That's not to say this book shouldn't be disavowed by them, it should.  I just think Bioware has a heckuva lot on their plate with ME3.

Not a reason, at all.  If they didn't have the time or resources to check the man's work, then DON'T commission the book at all.  At the end of the day, every single ME item, from the games down to the smallest key chain, should be checked.  Quality control.  The ME name has standards to live up to, that's quality controls job.

Yeah, giving them slack because of ME3 is a no.

[JamesFaith]

I was thinking about that Biotic parade. What do you think, do Blood pack, Blue suns or Talons making their own parade on Omega? And if yes what they doing when this two parades meet? What would they do? Dance fight? Rap battle?

[NPH11]

Luigitornado wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The novel was probably approved by someone high up in the ME Team.

Thing is I very much doubt this person was a writer, seeing as the writers have had a lot on their plates. Still it's not an excuse for Bioware.

Almost done with the book, and in my opinion all of you are drama queens. The writing is not up to snuff, and there are gramatical errors and such.

The story itself is pretty solid, but the lore issues are massive.

The only massive lore issues would be the ages of Gillian and Nick, and the whole Level 1, 2, 3 ADEPT biotic stuff. Sure there are a lot of small nit-picky stuff, which would putt-off most of the princess-and-the-pea folks on this board, but like you said the story is enjoyable enough for me to over look it.

So this book isn't well written and has massive lore issues, but is somehow still good.

Okay 

In my opinion, a book not being well written and having massive lore issues would make it a pretty terrible book.

Modifié par NPH11, 02 février 2012 - 12:14 .