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Galactic Runner wrote...
Guys and gals, let us redirect our hate towards the novel, please.
Side Note: How far has KiddDaBeauty gotten into the novel now?
izmirtheastarach wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
Sub-sonic bullets, but I don't think that would really work in long range weapons with tiny projectiles.
Yeah, the entire basis of their damage output is because of how high their velocity is.
Lulz.Jcmor wrote...
Luigitornado....or should I say William C. Dietz!!
*que dramatic music*
Jcmor wrote...
Luigitornado....or should I say William C. Dietz!!
*que dramatic music*
Lord Aesir wrote...
Actually they don't seem to hate the other books, I'm not sure where you're getting that. These problems are clear violations of canon.Luigitornado wrote...
Because almost EVERYONE seems to hate the other books, and were just looking for a reasons to hate this one. And the majority of that list of so-called "problems" are nitpicks.Lord Aesir wrote...
Yes it doesLuigitornado wrote...
XXIceColdXX wrote...
Bioware please repond us! End this, and remove deception from canon.
Ive been pretty invested in the ME universe since it started, games,dlc,comics and novels. Ive always had high expectations from the Mass Effect team and have been able to live with any of the continuity errors that have shown up until now. But this novel takes the cake.
If Deception isn't removed or partially removed from canon, my faith in any future Mass Effect product will be seriously tarnished, which is very disappointing as I have thoroughly enjoyed the ME universe up till now.
What is it that bothers you so much? Grow up.
Take the mistakes as mistakes in canon and be done with it. Does it really decrease the value of the Mass Effect universe?
If you don't care so much why are you here complaining about us caring?
Once again, why do you care?
Luigitornado wrote...
To be fair, all of the books, with exception of the first one. Have had minimal effects on the main story.jasonsantanna wrote...
**SPOILERS!**
How completely worthless is this novel when the entire plot contained within is MEANINGLESS? The only major outcome that occurs in Deception is that the three characters previously created in the novel Ascension - Gillian, Hendel, and Nick - are all randomly killed off at the very end for no other purpose other than to erase their existence from the Mass Effect universe. Other than that, nothing matters in this novel to the plot of the Mass Effect series, NOTHING - Anderson and Kahlee make no progress into investigating either Cerberus or the Reapers, the Council still actively dismisses the existence of the Reapers, there is no mention of the events of Arrival or the escalating tensions between the Alliance and the batarians over it, there is no active effort by Cerberus into any of their secret projects... none of the characters grow or evolve, none of the conflicts previously established in other Mass Effect media are resolved, nothing is any different for the Mass Effect universe or its characters from the beginning of this novel to its end, not a single darn thing..
Modifié par TMA LIVE, 02 février 2012 - 02:47 .
Relix28 wrote...
Galactic Runner wrote...
Guys and gals, let us redirect our hate towards the novel, please.
Signed.
Guys, just ignore that dude. It is clear he doesn't know what he's talking about, so just leave him alone. Don't waste your energy on him, and don't let him ruin and lock down this thread.
I imagine that there would be a lot more trace evidence by using a bullet, chemical residue from your firing location, on your own person, ease of tracking down a bullet that wasn't manufactured on demand. etc. etc.AngusJimiKeith wrote...
izmirtheastarach wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
Sub-sonic bullets, but I don't think that would really work in long range weapons with tiny projectiles.
Yeah, the entire basis of their damage output is because of how high their velocity is.
Maybe this is why he had to buy ammo: He's using primative weapons tech for the sake of stealth!
....Actually, that's not a bad atrategy. Dumping a big freaking slug into someone will do some damage, barriers or not.
OK So yeah... the other books are great. This is not just a few mistake. These are huge errors. It's like someone writing book between Empire and Jedi and still having Alderaan as a setting in the game, or having Chewbacca talking in English. Or perhaps having obi wan still aliveLuigitornado wrote...
Because almost EVERYONE seems to hate the other books, and were just looking for a reasons to hate this one. And the majority of that list of so-called "problems" are nitpicks.Lord Aesir wrote...
Yes it doesLuigitornado wrote...
What is it that bothers you so much? Grow up.XXIceColdXX wrote...
Bioware please repond us! End this, and remove deception from canon.
Ive been pretty invested in the ME universe since it started, games,dlc,comics and novels. Ive always had high expectations from the Mass Effect team and have been able to live with any of the continuity errors that have shown up until now. But this novel takes the cake.
If Deception isn't removed or partially removed from canon, my faith in any future Mass Effect product will be seriously tarnished, which is very disappointing as I have thoroughly enjoyed the ME universe up till now.
Take the mistakes as mistakes in canon and be done with it. Does it really decrease the value of the Mass Effect universe?
*snip*
If you don't care so much why are you here complaining about us caring?
Nitpicks are nitpicks. Lore and canon are malleable and mistakes can therefore can be easily forgotten. You want to be miserable and complain about Dietz's writing, then have a blast, but it is getting f-ing annoying seeing this "story" pop up all over the internet because stupid fans have nothing better to do with their time then complain about a gay tolken character ogling Asari. Oh. And then he dies. Cuz he is gay. And Dietz. Hates. Gays. But loves cereal.didymos1120 wrote...
Luigitornado wrote...
Because almost EVERYONE seems to hate the other books, and were just looking for a reasons to hate this one. And the majority of that list of so-called "problems" are nitpicks.
This is just some much bullsh*t and shows you haven't been paying any real attention to this thread.
ABCoLD wrote...
I imagine that there would be a lot more trace evidence by using a bullet, chemical residue from your firing location, on your own person, ease of tracking down a bullet that wasn't manufactured on demand. etc. etc.AngusJimiKeith wrote...
izmirtheastarach wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
Sub-sonic bullets, but I don't think that would really work in long range weapons with tiny projectiles.
Yeah, the entire basis of their damage output is because of how high their velocity is.
Maybe this is why he had to buy ammo: He's using primative weapons tech for the sake of stealth!
....Actually, that's not a bad atrategy. Dumping a big freaking slug into someone will do some damage, barriers or not.
TMA LIVE wrote...
Luigitornado wrote...
To be fair, all of the books, with exception of the first one. Have had minimal effects on the main story.jasonsantanna wrote...
**SPOILERS!**
How completely worthless is this novel when the entire plot contained within is MEANINGLESS? The only major outcome that occurs in Deception is that the three characters previously created in the novel Ascension - Gillian, Hendel, and Nick - are all randomly killed off at the very end for no other purpose other than to erase their existence from the Mass Effect universe. Other than that, nothing matters in this novel to the plot of the Mass Effect series, NOTHING - Anderson and Kahlee make no progress into investigating either Cerberus or the Reapers, the Council still actively dismisses the existence of the Reapers, there is no mention of the events of Arrival or the escalating tensions between the Alliance and the batarians over it, there is no active effort by Cerberus into any of their secret projects... none of the characters grow or evolve, none of the conflicts previously established in other Mass Effect media are resolved, nothing is any different for the Mass Effect universe or its characters from the beginning of this novel to its end, not a single darn thing..
They were used to setup things for fans before the games came out, while also expanding on the universe. In the second book, it introduced the Collectors, TIM, Omega, and the politics going on between the Quarians. In the third book, it introduced Leng, Anderson losing his job but also getting back together with Sanders, and Cerberus experimenting with Reaper Technology on humans.
We also take comfort in knowing these are canon. That we're being setup for something.
This book? Doesn't add to anything from what I can tell. And we sure as hell can't trust anything this writer wrote as ME canon.
Modifié par Relix28, 02 février 2012 - 02:52 .
Luigitornado wrote...
... but it is getting f-ing annoying seeing this "story" pop up all over the internet because stupid fans have nothing better to do with their time then complain about a gay tolken character ogling Asari. Oh...
Luigitornado wrote...
Nitpicks are nitpicks. Lore and canon are malleable and mistakes can therefore can be easily forgotten. You want to be miserable and complain about Dietz's writing, then have a blast, but it is getting f-ing annoying seeing this "story" pop up all over the internet because stupid fans have nothing better to do with their time then complain about a gay tolken character ogling Asari. Oh. And then he dies. Cuz he is gay. And Dietz. Hates. Gays. But loves cereal.
I hope Mass Effect 3 is a miserable game experience for all of you, so much in fact that you will be forever doomed to this forum complaining about its "mistakes."
Shallow fans are shallow. See you laters.
Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 02 février 2012 - 03:04 .
ABCoLD wrote...
I imagine that there would be a lot more trace evidence by using a bullet, chemical residue from your firing location, on your own person, ease of tracking down a bullet that wasn't manufactured on demand. etc. etc.AngusJimiKeith wrote...
izmirtheastarach wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
Sub-sonic bullets, but I don't think that would really work in long range weapons with tiny projectiles.
Yeah, the entire basis of their damage output is because of how high their velocity is.
Maybe this is why he had to buy ammo: He's using primative weapons tech for the sake of stealth!
....Actually, that's not a bad atrategy. Dumping a big freaking slug into someone will do some damage, barriers or not.
You don't have much grounds for calling other people shallow when it apparently offends you that we happen to care about consistency.Luigitornado wrote...
Nitpicks are nitpicks. Lore and canon are malleable and mistakes can therefore can be easily forgotten. You want to be miserable and complain about Dietz's writing, then have a blast, but it is getting f-ing annoying seeing this "story" pop up all over the internet because stupid fans have nothing better to do with their time then complain about a gay tolken character ogling Asari. Oh. And then he dies. Cuz he is gay. And Dietz. Hates. Gays. But loves cereal.didymos1120 wrote...
Luigitornado wrote...
Because almost EVERYONE seems to hate the other books, and were just looking for a reasons to hate this one. And the majority of that list of so-called "problems" are nitpicks.
This is just some much bullsh*t and shows you haven't been paying any real attention to this thread.
I hope Mass Effect 3 is a miserable game experience for all of you, so much in fact that you will be forever doomed to this forum complaining about its "mistakes."
Shallow fans are shallow. See you laters.
Of course, their advanced armor would sport kinetic barriers.... or would it?!AngusJimiKeith wrote...
If you are an assassin, yes, absolutely. That was mainly supposed to be a joke, and I imagine if I tried to fight off the anyone from the ME universe with modern weapons I would be cut to pieces...
Luigitornado wrote...
Nitpicks are nitpicks. Lore and canon are malleable and mistakes can therefore can be easily forgotten. You want to be miserable and complain about Dietz's writing, then have a blast, but it is getting f-ing annoying seeing this "story" pop up all over the internet because stupid fans have nothing better to do with their time then complain about a gay tolken character ogling Asari. Oh. And then he dies. Cuz he is gay. And Dietz. Hates. Gays. But loves cereal.didymos1120 wrote...
Luigitornado wrote...
Because almost EVERYONE seems to hate the other books, and were just looking for a reasons to hate this one. And the majority of that list of so-called "problems" are nitpicks.
This is just some much bullsh*t and shows you haven't been paying any real attention to this thread.
I hope Mass Effect 3 is a miserable game experience for all of you, so much in fact that you will be forever doomed to this forum complaining about its "mistakes."
Shallow fans are shallow. See you laters.
Modifié par AresXX7, 02 février 2012 - 02:58 .
ABCoLD wrote...
Of course, their advanced armor would sport kinetic barriers.... or would it?!AngusJimiKeith wrote...
If you are an assassin, yes, absolutely. That was mainly supposed to be a joke, and I imagine if I tried to fight off the anyone from the ME universe with modern weapons I would be cut to pieces...
JoeLaTurkey wrote...
We had talk of a fan audiobook getting uploaded earlier. How's that going?
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