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Mass Effect: Deception Discussion Thread (Updated 2/2/2012) *Now with 30% more links!*


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CDRSkyShepard wrote...
I'm a horrible, horrible person sometimes... :pinched:


It's okay. Most of us on BSN are.

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From Casey Hudsons Twitter Aug 11 2011

"Finished my final review of the #MassEffect Deception novel. A really fun lead-in to #ME3! Kai Leng is a badass"


Never fails to annoy me when I see it. A really fun lead-in? So it's fun to see a whole series of books destroyed, and three characters murdered for no reason. Ho ho ho. Fun!

#10203
XXIceColdXX

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More reports on the debacle from other sites, not coming up as news on google though.

http://www.gmrfm.com/4075
http://www.technolog...fect-deception/

Modifié par XXIceColdXX, 02 février 2012 - 09:58 .


#10204
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We are still on the front page of IGN.

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OH GOD. LMAO Read the Last Line:

http://drewkarpyshyn...?p=365#more-365

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

We are still on the front page of IGN.


I rather like the IGN article. They treated this as a legitimate concern versus a bunch of fans going bats**t over "a few nitpicky errors." They also said they themselves have reached out to BioWare...if that doesn't make them sit up and take us seriously, I don't know what will.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...
Never fails to annoy me when I see it. A really fun lead-in? So it's fun to see a whole series of books destroyed, and three characters murdered for no reason. Ho ho ho. Fun!

sure he knew it was bad, he probably didn't think BSN would hate it so much.

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ForteSJGR wrote...

OH GOD. LMAO Read the Last Line:

http://drewkarpyshyn...?p=365#more-365


I thought the first line was most interesting

"I’ve also been getting a lot of e-mails about the newest Mass Effect
novel, asking me what I think. I understand why people want to know"

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_symphony wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...
Never fails to annoy me when I see it. A really fun lead-in? So it's fun to see a whole series of books destroyed, and three characters murdered for no reason. Ho ho ho. Fun!

sure he knew it was bad, he probably didn't think BSN would hate it so much.

Then he really underestimated us...

BSNites are already pretty vocal, but when they're together... yeah. Expect a ****storm.

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roflchoppaz wrote...

_symphony wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...
Never fails to annoy me when I see it. A really fun lead-in? So it's fun to see a whole series of books destroyed, and three characters murdered for no reason. Ho ho ho. Fun!

sure he knew it was bad, he probably didn't think BSN would hate it so much.

Then he really underestimated us...

BSNites are already pretty vocal, but when they're together... yeah. Expect a ****storm.


The people here **** about the things Bioware does right to an insane degree. How did he think we were going to respond to this pile of crap?

#10211
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Still no comment, huh?

And Drew says...

BioWare loves interacting with our fans


...

Modifié par MissOuJ, 02 février 2012 - 06:57 .


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Wow. I read through that list and am glad I have never read any of the comics or books. The lazy factor has multiplied by about a hundred on this series and I'm getting sick of it. DA is circling the drain; ME is now circling the drain and TOR, while I love it, is not going to hold me forever.

#10213
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roflchoppaz wrote...

_symphony wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...
Never fails to annoy me when I see it. A really fun lead-in? So it's fun to see a whole series of books destroyed, and three characters murdered for no reason. Ho ho ho. Fun!

sure he knew it was bad, he probably didn't think BSN would hate it so much.

Then he really underestimated us...

BSNites are already pretty vocal, but when they're together... yeah. Expect a ****storm.

Maybe, but I think most of us are underestimating the power of money, this ragestorm isn't going to mean anything if there isn't a dent in their sales.

Modifié par _symphony, 02 février 2012 - 06:55 .


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_symphony wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

_symphony wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...
Never fails to annoy me when I see it. A really fun lead-in? So it's fun to see a whole series of books destroyed, and three characters murdered for no reason. Ho ho ho. Fun!

sure he knew it was bad, he probably didn't think BSN would hate it so much.

Then he really underestimated us...

BSNites are already pretty vocal, but when they're together... yeah. Expect a ****storm.

Maybe, but I think most of us are underestimating the power of money, this ragestorm isn't going to mean anything if there isn't a dent in their sales.


Those of us who have actually purchased the book have only done so for educational purposes, and we are encouraging others NOT to buy it. Hopefully that effort will offset the money we have given towards the book's sales. Though, I cannot in good faith give a book negative reviews that I haven't read...and that's why I'm reading it. That, and I will be highlighting and marking up my copy this weekend, and posting pictures of some of the worst sections for all to see.

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MissOuJ wrote...

Still no comment, huh?

And Drew says...

BioWare loves interacting with our fans


...

You believed him? Lol.

#10216
MissOuJ

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JeffZero wrote...

I for one had no major issues with ME2, any of its DLC or even "Invasion", which I ended up liking quite a bit.

Not all of us hate everything BioWare is releasing lately. Many of us simply hate "Deception". :P


Me neither. I understand people get frustrated when the dev team drops features they like, but still those are often matters of taste (and in some cases, play style - in which case I get people get p***ed off, because that can be extremely limiting for the player).

This though... this is something else.

#10217
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izmirtheastarach wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

From Casey Hudsons Twitter Aug 11 2011

"Finished my final review of the #MassEffect Deception novel. A really fun lead-in to #ME3! Kai Leng is a badass"


Never fails to annoy me when I see it. A really fun lead-in? So it's fun to see a whole series of books destroyed, and three characters murdered for no reason. Ho ho ho. Fun!


I know, its hard to take.

#10218
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RiptideX1090 wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

_symphony wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...
Never fails to annoy me when I see it. A really fun lead-in? So it's fun to see a whole series of books destroyed, and three characters murdered for no reason. Ho ho ho. Fun!

sure he knew it was bad, he probably didn't think BSN would hate it so much.

Then he really underestimated us...

BSNites are already pretty vocal, but when they're together... yeah. Expect a ****storm.


The people here **** about the things Bioware does right to an insane degree. How did he think we were going to respond to this pile of crap?



So true. I usually never tear into bioware... simply because they usually never deserve it. Sure, questionable desicions have been made here and there, but those sort of things really come down to taste. This whole debacle however....
Yea sure bioware shouldve noticed this in proofread, but it really comes down to Harbinger himself... William C. Dietz, because canonical errors and lore issues aside... the writing itself is very poor. A 5 year old high off of sharpies could tell a better story.
If Bioware had any shred of respect for its fans, they would make sure this becomes non-canon. if they dont though..... it shouldnt matter. NOT ONE fan should consider this canon.

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Every company likes interacting with fans right up until there's a threat to sales numbers. There's nothing wrong with that. They're businesspeople too, and as a novel leading to ME3, they have to market it.

And seeing this thread, they probably understand that any and all "interaction" will only lead to more fanrage :P

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Koju737 wrote...

So true. I usually never tear into bioware... simply because they usually never deserve it. Sure, questionable desicions have been made here and there, but those sort of things really come down to taste. This whole debacle however....


Hear hear!

The thing is, Bioware really make pretty amazing games, all things considered. And usually, when they slip up they apologize (for example, the accidental transphobia in MotA).

That's why I'm so disappointed. They're usually better than this. :(

Modifié par MissOuJ, 02 février 2012 - 07:22 .


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MissOuJ wrote...
the accidental transphobia in MotA


The what...?

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Back again!

Gonna partake in some nom nom noms, but someone update me on the...

About 20+ pages I missed.

#10223
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RiptideX1090 wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...
the accidental transphobia in MotA


The what...?


I'll PM you, don't want to go off-topic with this...

Deception sucks.

#10224
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LPPrince wrote...

Back again!

Gonna partake in some nom nom noms, but someone update me on the...

About 20+ pages I missed.


I got involved in the discussion, a few sites have posted articles related to the book and our reaction to it, and the writer for the first three books has posted a bit in regards to Deception.

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LGTX wrote...

Every company likes interacting with fans right up until there's a threat to sales numbers. There's nothing wrong with that. They're businesspeople too, and as a novel leading to ME3, they have to market it.

And seeing this thread, they probably understand that any and all "interaction" will only lead to more fanrage :P


Funny thing is if they dont speak up and rectify this now, theres a good chance it will effect their long term sales with the Mass Effect franchise.