Mass Effect: Deception Discussion Thread (Updated 2/2/2012) *Now with 30% more links!*
#10776
Posté 02 février 2012 - 07:36
#10777
Posté 02 février 2012 - 07:41
#10778
Posté 02 février 2012 - 07:42
He was shortly indoctrinated afterwards...
Also, a Vorcha Review of Deception:
Vorcha: AHH!! MY EYES!!
#10779
Posté 02 février 2012 - 07:46
Galactic Runner wrote...
Chef Gordon Ramsey found this book to be RAW:
He was shortly indoctrinated afterwards...
Also, a Vorcha Review of Deception:
Vorcha: AHH!! MY EYES!!
I wish some people had Chef Ramsey dedication to their craft... he demands nothing but excellence. Not only from himself but from the people around him as well...sometimes you have to be a hard ass get crap done.
*looks at Deitz and the Bioware book editing staff.*
Modifié par nitefyre410, 02 février 2012 - 07:46 .
#10780
Posté 02 février 2012 - 07:48
MissOuJ wrote...
I find his general fetishization of the asari incredibly creepy. I don't think there's a man in this book with more than 5 lines who doesn't ogle/check out/fantasize/flirt with an asari. I find it seriously disturbing.
Perhaps it's no so much his own creepiness, as it is his idea of what he thinks the audience for his works is.
#10781
Posté 02 février 2012 - 07:50
izmirtheastarach wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
I find his general fetishization of the asari incredibly creepy. I don't think there's a man in this book with more than 5 lines who doesn't ogle/check out/fantasize/flirt with an asari. I find it seriously disturbing.
Perhaps it's no so much his own creepiness, as it is his idea of what he thinks the audience for his works is.
I would like him to know... I can come with my own fantasies about Aria and they will be alot less creepy than what, he thinks, I think when looking at an Asari...
if that makes sense...
and yes.. Aria
Modifié par nitefyre410, 02 février 2012 - 07:53 .
#10782
Posté 02 février 2012 - 07:54
- BioWare personnel approved of the contents of Deception.
- BioWare personnel did not care either way about the contents of Deception.
- BioWare personnel did not approve of Deception, but were unable to exert enough influence to change direction, either because of circumstance, prior agreement, or being overruled from above.
- BioWare did not approve, were able to exert enough influence to prevent publication, but decided in the end to agree to its publication due to some other more important short- or long-term goal regarding the direction of the company.
#10783
Posté 02 février 2012 - 07:55
In fact, Leng had a sneaking hunch that she made at least part of her living putting suckers in their place. But it was too late for Hobbs to back out, so when Leng said “Go!” the other man put everything he had into forcing Nefari’s arm down. But it was a wasted effort. Nefari’s arm was like a steel bar. She smiled beatifically as Hobbs’s face turned red.
Modifié par RiflemanUK, 02 février 2012 - 07:56 .
#10784
Posté 02 février 2012 - 07:56
izmirtheastarach wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
I find his general fetishization of the asari incredibly creepy. I don't think there's a man in this book with more than 5 lines who doesn't ogle/check out/fantasize/flirt with an asari. I find it seriously disturbing.
Perhaps it's no so much his own creepiness, as it is his idea of what he thinks the audience for his works is.
It could be, but it still makes my skin crawl.
I used to work part time in a hotel bar, and I know the type: the guys who sit in a dark corner, sipping a soft drink or a glass of water, checking out women like they're really delicious sirloin stakes they want to sink their teeth into...
*shudder*
Modifié par MissOuJ, 02 février 2012 - 07:57 .
#10785
Posté 02 février 2012 - 07:57
She smiled beatifically
...
What?
Holy ****, that's actually a word.
#10786
Posté 02 février 2012 - 07:57
Then Bioware better have a good explaination on why its some how good long term or short term goal to release a completely crappy product that has you most popular IP's name on it.Pausanias wrote...
One of the following four options must be true:Out of these options, I hope that it's (4), because option (1) (2) and (3) do not bode well for the future of the company (or at least the future of its products).
- BioWare personnel approved of the contents of Deception.
- BioWare personnel did not care either way about the contents of Deception.
- BioWare personnel did not approve of Deception, but were unable to exert enough influence to change direction, either because of circumstance, prior agreement, or being overruled from above.
- BioWare did not approve, were able to exert enough influence to prevent publication, but decided in the end to agree to its publication due to some other more important short- or long-term goal regarding the direction of the company.
#10787
Posté 02 février 2012 - 07:59
RiflemanUK wrote...
Let's put those suckers in their place.In fact, Leng had a sneaking hunch that she made at least part of her living putting suckers in their place. But it was too late for Hobbs to back out, so when Leng said “Go!” the other man put everything he had into forcing Nefari’s arm down. But it was a wasted effort. Nefari’s arm was like a steel bar. She smiled beatifically as Hobbs’s face turned red.
...Wat
#10788
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:01
nitefyre410 wrote...
Then Bioware better have a good explaination on why its some how good long term or short term goal to release a completely crappy product that has you most popular IP's name on it.Pausanias wrote...
One of the following four options must be true:Out of these options, I hope that it's (4), because option (1) (2) and (3) do not bode well for the future of the company (or at least the future of its products).
- BioWare personnel approved of the contents of Deception.
- BioWare personnel did not care either way about the contents of Deception.
- BioWare personnel did not approve of Deception, but were unable to exert enough influence to change direction, either because of circumstance, prior agreement, or being overruled from above.
- BioWare did not approve, were able to exert enough influence to prevent publication, but decided in the end to agree to its publication due to some other more important short- or long-term goal regarding the direction of the company.
We will never hear that explanation. Just like we will never find out why the highly successful composers of mass effect 2, at least one of whom had started composing a theme for mass effect 3, were suddenly off the job. You can substitute "Letting Jack Wall/Sam Hulick go" for "contents of Deception" above and the same questions, choices, as well as your reply, still apply.
Modifié par Pausanias, 02 février 2012 - 08:03 .
#10789
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:02
ForteSJGR wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
Cloaking_Thane wrote...
Is it wrong that I've put the book on a stand and just covered my ears and gone
"lalalalalala can't hear you lalalalalalalalal"
Looking at it is turning you insane.
The indoctrination has begun......
It's like a scratching in the back of your brain.
#10790
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:04
roflchoppaz wrote...
She smiled beatifically
...
What?
Holy ****, that's actually a word.
HA Dietz does this quite a lot - using all sorts of mildly archaic words in his fragmented prose. It's silly when he tries to flex his vocab muscles in the middle of fragments and run-ons
#10791
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:05
roflchoppaz wrote...
She smiled beatifically
...
What?
Holy ****, that's actually a word.
I swear, sometimes I think Deitz just grabbed a few words here and there from a thesaurus and uses them just to show that he knows a few " Big Words" (cause the prose for the rest of the novel read's like sh*t)
#10792
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:06
I can accept that a little bit more than this.. . because they made an upgrade with Clint Marsell... While Jack and Sam are good ... they are not Clint Marsell. This through is a down grade... this equal to trading say Tom Brady for Ryan Leaf.Pausanias wrote...
nitefyre410 wrote...
Then Bioware better have a good explaination on why its some how good long term or short term goal to release a completely crappy product that has you most popular IP's name on it.Pausanias wrote...
One of the following four options must be true:Out of these options, I hope that it's (4), because option (1) (2) and (3) do not bode well for the future of the company (or at least the future of its products).
- BioWare personnel approved of the contents of Deception.
- BioWare personnel did not care either way about the contents of Deception.
- BioWare personnel did not approve of Deception, but were unable to exert enough influence to change direction, either because of circumstance, prior agreement, or being overruled from above.
- BioWare did not approve, were able to exert enough influence to prevent publication, but decided in the end to agree to its publication due to some other more important short- or long-term goal regarding the direction of the company.
We will never hear that explanation. Just like we will never find out why the highly successful composers of mass effect 2, at least one of which had started composing a theme for mass effect 3, were suddenly off the job. You can substitute "Letting Jack Wall/Sam Hulick go" for "contents of Deception" above and the same questions, choices, as well as your reply, still apply.
Modifié par nitefyre410, 02 février 2012 - 08:06 .
#10793
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:09
roflchoppaz wrote...
She smiled beatifically
...
What?
Holy ****, that's actually a word.
You see what I mean? His way of wording things breaks flow and is so jarring you get taken out of it. You shouldn't make much of an effort to read a book, just as you shouldn't in a movie or game or anything else. This is basic stuff.
Mr. Dietz, you're doing it wrong.
Modifié par Iohanna, 02 février 2012 - 08:10 .
#10794
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:09
AVPen wrote...
roflchoppaz wrote...
She smiled beatifically
...
What?
Holy ****, that's actually a word.![]()
I swear, sometimes I think Deitz just grabbed a few words here and there from a thesaurus and uses them just to show that he knows a few " Big Words" (cause the prose for the rest of the novel read's like sh*t)
Apples Newest Software ... iAuthor.. endorsed by WIlliam C. Deitz. See all you have to do is set the program to english, the gerne to sci-fi, select shuffle and hit create and there is a Sci-fi novel ready publication.
Honesty I should not direspect Mr. Jobs like that.....
Modifié par nitefyre410, 02 février 2012 - 08:10 .
#10795
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:10
#10796
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:12
jasonsantanna wrote...
Has anyone read Dietz Hitman book or Halo :the flood books . . .and if so what are your thoughts?
Wait heard he did a Halo book... that was equally as terrible but he did a Hitman book.
What the helll did Agent 47 do to deserve that?
#10797
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:17
nitefyre410 wrote...
jasonsantanna wrote...
Has anyone read Dietz Hitman book or Halo :the flood books . . .and if so what are your thoughts?
Wait heard he did a Halo book... that was equally as terrible but he did a Hitman book.![]()
What the helll did Agent 47 do to deserve that?
My roommate (huge Halo fan, we have wars over which is better regularly) said that he didn't like The Flood, that it was weird. He wasn't really descriptive beyond that, though.
I woke up with a pounding headache this morning and didn't go to class. I blame Deception...
#10798
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:17
The fllood is the worst one for the Halo books.nitefyre410 wrote...
jasonsantanna wrote...
Has anyone read Dietz Hitman book or Halo :the flood books . . .and if so what are your thoughts?
Wait heard he did a Halo book... that was equally as terrible but he did a Hitman book.![]()
What the helll did Agent 47 do to deserve that?
#10799
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:18
Yuoaman wrote...
“Yes,” Kahlee said. “It was. Not his biological daughter, but his daughter nonetheless. Gillian demonstrated biotic abilities at a very young age. The Illusive Man became aware of her and ordered Grayson to play the part of her father and enroll her at the Grissom Academy. Grayson did as he was told, but at some point over the years he came to care for her the way a real father would, and a bond was formed. Meanwhile her biotic abilities continued to develop, and based on what took place here, we believe that she had new amps installed.”
Great exposition there, Kahlee.
And look, Dietz still doesn't know the difference between implants and amps.
Yeah, um, I kinda doubt Gillian demonstrated much when she was an infant, which is how old she was when given to Paul Grayson. Hell, she was barely demonstrating biotic abilities when she was twelve. The incident with the singularity was remarkable for more than one reason.
#10800
Posté 02 février 2012 - 08:19




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