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[Homebound]

Kroitz wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

For anyone who missed William C Dietz latest tweet.

wcdietz
William C. Dietz
MASS EFFECT DECEPTION is no. 6 on Barnes & Noble's Bookseller's picks for February. tor.com/blogs/2012/02/….

2 Feb

WHY?????? WHY????:crying:

The novel is universaly despised right now. And he tweets this?

counter-acting the bad press, maybe.

its no.6 because everybody wanted to find out how bad it was.

[AVPen]

For those that have yet to see this passage yet.... meet the Sandman, folks:

“Whoa!” a voice said, as Gillian increased her pace. “What’s your hurry human?” a turian inquired, pacing along next to her. “You need some happy? They call me the sandman. And my stuff is red. Real red. Ten credits for some sweet dreams.”

Modifié par AVPen, 03 février 2012 - 01:16 .

[Sajuro]

AVPen wrote...

For those that have yet to see this passage yet.... meet the Sandman, folks:

“Whoa!” a voice said, as Gillian increased her pace. “What’s your hurry human?” a turian inquired, pacing along next to her. “You need some happy? They call me the sandman. And my stuff is red. Real red. Ten credits for some sweet dreams.”

only ten credits?' A stupid little fish costs more than ten credits.

[nitefyre410]

AVPen wrote...

For those that have yet to see this passage yet.... meet the Sandman, folks:

“Whoa!” a voice said, as Gillian increased her pace. “What’s your hurry human?” a turian inquired, pacing along next to her. “You need some happy? They call me the sandman. And my stuff is red. Real red. Ten credits for some sweet dreams.”

 

Oh What the ****... 

couldn't just pull a episode of the  Wire to make it  at least sound authentic. and  Bioware wants  me take this guy as an author seriously. 

Tim  Tebow will win the Devenr Broncos a Super Bowl at starting QB before that  happens. 

[DnVill]

So any official response yet from the Bioware team on the book? Casey, can you browse through the 440 pages of hatred on Deception?

[Doctalen]

DnVill wrote...

So any official response yet from the Bioware team on the book? Casey, can you browse through the 440 pages of hatred on Deception?

No word yet (that i know of) but i'm pretty sure that at least some of the bioware staff are keeping an eye on this thread. 

Modifié par Doctalen, 03 février 2012 - 01:25 .

[nitefyre410]

Doctalen wrote...

DnVill wrote...

So any official response yet from the Bioware team on the book? Casey, can you browse through the 440 pages of hatred on Deception?

No word yet but i'm pretty sure that at least some of the bioware staff are keeping an eye on this thread. 

 

There most like reading the book first saying... "There is no way it can be that bad." after reading about the first oh 10 pages.  Emails are being sent out about .. how the hell did this happen.  Its most likely moving the through the food chain now. 
 

[SpartHawg948]

drwells123 wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Thing is, it wont be forgotten, the implications this has on the Mass Effect lore is massive. And it comes down to the fact that Bioware are considering this novel canon.

The Mass Effect Wiki team are struggling to come to terms with how to integrate this whole mess into the wiki. Its a mess and it wont go away in a hurry without Bioware stepping in.

The Wiki team will just write it off, I gather. And if there are no more ME games then BioWare won't need to consult the Wiki anymore anyway.

I guess it's more of an issue if there are going to be spin-off games or some kind of expanded universe where other authors can step in. They'll find ways to get around it if they have to, though (as the Terminator TV series went around T3 for instance).

No one at the Wiki is just writing it off, nor has there been a serious suggestion to do so. Even if, as another contributor suggested, BioWare doesn't respond and just hopes we all forget about Deception when the demo and ME3 come out, we at the Wiki will still keep trying to garner some sort of response, if for no other reason than to determine if this stuff is canon or not. A lot of these errors, which directly contradict previously established fact, are making things pretty difficult here. For example, do volus die when exposed to oxygen and normal atmospheric pressures, as was previously established, or don't they, as Deception claims? 

[SpartHawg948]

soren7550 wrote...

A while back I someone said that they were going to do a Hitler reacts video to the book. Has that been done yet or is it still in the works?

That would be pretty BA.

[DnVill]

Doctalen wrote...

DnVill wrote...

So any official response yet from the Bioware team on the book? Casey, can you browse through the 440 pages of hatred on Deception?

No word yet (that i know of) but i'm pretty sure that at least some of the bioware staff are keeping an eye on this thread. 

It would be good if they just acknoledged how Dietz butchered the series and just said something like
"Yes, we are aware of the book's crappy writing but we're still busy trying to polish ME3 to respond officially"".

[izmirtheastarach]

SpartHawg948 wrote...

No one at the Wiki is just writing it off, nor has there been a serious suggestion to do so. Even if, as another contributor suggested, BioWare doesn't respond and just hopes we all forget about Deception when the demo and ME3 come out, we at the Wiki will still keep trying to garner some sort of response, if for no other reason than to determine if this stuff is canon or not. A lot of these errors, which directly contradict previously established fact, are making things pretty difficult here. For example, do volus die when exposed to oxygen and normal atmospheric pressures, as was previously established, or don't they, as Deception claims? 

That's what I thought. Is there any internal talk between you guys about making a fanon discontinuity style choice to ignore Deception? Or are you firmly in the position where if Bioware makes a public statement that it IS cannon, you will try and integrate it no matter how difficult it might be?

[Zu Long]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Colored contacts don't even fool today's retinal scanners, how in Adraste's name would a sci-fi author of all things believe it would fool scanners from the FUTURE!?!?

I feel the sudden urge to buy a copy, then burn it, collect the ashes and burn them again ...

Not to mention that the Citadel scanners SCANS YOUR DNA AND NOT YOUR EYES.

****** book and its ****** tricks.

Man, I missed that one on the list of errors. Kai Leng fooled scanners that can test DNA in skin flakes using contacts? That's pretty damn funny.

[nitefyre410]

DnVill wrote...

Doctalen wrote...

DnVill wrote...

So any official response yet from the Bioware team on the book? Casey, can you browse through the 440 pages of hatred on Deception?

No word yet (that i know of) but i'm pretty sure that at least some of the bioware staff are keeping an eye on this thread. 

It would be good if they just acknoledged how Dietz butchered the series and just said something like
"Yes, we are aware of the book's crappy writing but we're still busy trying to polish ME3 to respond officially"".

 

their  not going to do that,  why I don't know.. There really is no reason to spare Dietz ego here. He should have thought  about it  before he offered that POS to the editors to be published. More so right  know I think there may be some internal communication going on as how and why this book was released in the state that   it was in . Because its kinda of a nasty mare on the Mass Effect brand... Remember not even Halo: The Flood made the front page of IGN... if memory serves me correctly. 

[JamesFaith]

Doctalen wrote...

DnVill wrote...

So any official response yet from the Bioware team on the book? Casey, can you browse through the 440 pages of hatred on Deception?

No word yet (that i know of) but i'm pretty sure that at least some of the bioware staff are keeping an eye on this thread. 

Well they surely doing it. This thread is for them like nasty eczema on intime parts now. They know about it, they know it's bad, they keep looking on it - but they are too ashamed to visit doctor and eczema is every day bigger and bigger ...

[Paladin Latham]

Oh man... listening to a fan made audiobook now. Its hard to listen to, I couldn't imagine reading it.

SOOOOOO BAD!

[nitefyre410]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

SpartHawg948 wrote...

No one at the Wiki is just writing it off, nor has there been a serious suggestion to do so. Even if, as another contributor suggested, BioWare doesn't respond and just hopes we all forget about Deception when the demo and ME3 come out, we at the Wiki will still keep trying to garner some sort of response, if for no other reason than to determine if this stuff is canon or not. A lot of these errors, which directly contradict previously established fact, are making things pretty difficult here. For example, do volus die when exposed to oxygen and normal atmospheric pressures, as was previously established, or don't they, as Deception claims? 

That's what I thought. Is there any internal talk between you guys about making a fanon discontinuity style choice to ignore Deception? Or are you firmly in the position where if Bioware makes a public statement that it IS cannon, you will try and integrate it no matter how difficult it might be?

 

Jesus, I don't how they can integrate this book,    you can't really be glossed over  and bury them  in the  wiki where they might not  see the  light of day.    Most  glaringly  Gillian's Autism and age  in the book,  how  in the world do you even spin to  make sense beside putting a giaint asterik  by it .   SpartHawg, I mostly certainly do not envy the postion you guys at the Wiki are in at the moment  

[SpartHawg948]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

SpartHawg948 wrote...

No one at the Wiki is just writing it off, nor has there been a serious suggestion to do so. Even if, as another contributor suggested, BioWare doesn't respond and just hopes we all forget about Deception when the demo and ME3 come out, we at the Wiki will still keep trying to garner some sort of response, if for no other reason than to determine if this stuff is canon or not. A lot of these errors, which directly contradict previously established fact, are making things pretty difficult here. For example, do volus die when exposed to oxygen and normal atmospheric pressures, as was previously established, or don't they, as Deception claims? 

That's what I thought. Is there any internal talk between you guys about making a fanon discontinuity style choice to ignore Deception? Or are you firmly in the position where if Bioware makes a public statement that it IS cannon, you will try and integrate it no matter how difficult it might be?

Right now, we're leaning towards the latter. I haven't really heard any serious talk of writing it off, and the other admins are pretty uniformly of the opinion that, if BioWare says it counts (and no comment is as good as a public statement in that regard), we'll just have to find a way to make it work. For things that totally contradict each other, we're discussing adding sections to the relevant articles detailing the disconnect.

[The Love Runner]

Guys and Gals, LET'S KEEP TALKING ABOUT CEREAL, GYROCYCLES, HAPPY BOWLS, and TOOTHBRUSHES!! I WANT MY CEREAL NOW!!

[Heraxion]

Galactic Runner wrote...

Guys and Gals, LET'S KEEP TALKING ABOUT CEREAL, GYROCYCLES, HAPPY BOWLS, and TOOTHBRUSHES!! I WANT MY CEREAL NOW!!

Watch out, we got an adrenaline junkie over here

[nitefyre410]

Galactic Runner wrote...

Guys and Gals, LET'S KEEP TALKING ABOUT CEREAL, GYROCYCLES, HAPPY BOWLS, and TOOTHBRUSHES!! I WANT MY CEREAL NOW!!

 



excuse me but just what is a gyrocycle?  

[Xaero_Dumort]

docs.google.com/document/d/1AtDZV5j8fiAVpZ0OHsRQiWXMKdgCOoz66rAaGpx_YFE/preview

Mass Effect: Deception re-write progress update!

Finished through chapter one. It takes a lot more effor than I thought it would. But I have fixed a great many of inconsitencies and lore/canon errors already. Please PM suggestions and the like to me, or check my blog, on the wiki.

Also PM grammar and other mistakes. Keep in mind they won't be fixed right away. First the re-write then the edit of the re-write.

[Grey34]

yeah this will leave a bitter taste in your mouth for sure. i just can't believe it now i will have hard time take Kai leng seriously now i just hope he is fantastic in ME3 otherwise i'm going to be disappointed. i mean stealing and eating ceral and pissing in vase thing, come on comedic value aside what worse piece of writing. the Funeral for Nick and Gillian and Hendal don't get me started on how bad he treated that scene. "i will miss them" that's it? you spent a good portion of your life with them and say you will miss them, and then go have hotel sex? i say i won't miss this book when it disappears

[The Love Runner]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Galactic Runner wrote...

Guys and Gals, LET'S KEEP TALKING ABOUT CEREAL, GYROCYCLES, HAPPY BOWLS, and TOOTHBRUSHES!! I WANT MY CEREAL NOW!!

 



excuse me but just what is a gyrocycle?  

Ratchet and Clank were riding one in Tools of Destruction.

Modifié par Galactic Runner, 03 février 2012 - 01:57 .

[izmirtheastarach]

SpartHawg948 wrote...

Right now, we're leaning towards the latter. I haven't really heard any serious talk of writing it off, and the other admins are pretty uniformly of the opinion that, if BioWare says it counts (and no comment is as good as a public statement in that regard), we'll just have to find a way to make it work. For things that totally contradict each other, we're discussing adding sections to the relevant articles detailing the disconnect.

That's sort of what I've been telling people I though your approach would be. It's tough, because if you look at that error list, either ours or the one on the wiki, there are a ton of articles that would be impacted. And that general fanbase is likely to want to forget this stuff happened completely.

There reall are some very compelling issues that Bioware needs to address, regardless of whether the general story is said to be considered canon. Issues like Deception completely invalidating the story on Invasion. They need to give some indication of how this is supposed to fit.

[SpartHawg948]

Galactic Runner wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Galactic Runner wrote...

Guys and Gals, LET'S KEEP TALKING ABOUT CEREAL, GYROCYCLES, HAPPY BOWLS, and TOOTHBRUSHES!! I WANT MY CEREAL NOW!!

 



excuse me but just what is a gyrocycle?  

Ratchet and Clank were riding one in Tools of Destruction.

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