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#11276
RiptideX1090

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Keep fighting the good fight, ladies and gents.

And I am amazed we managed to get a Penny Arcade strip done for this. Well done, people.

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ZLurps wrote...
gyro-stabilized bike


That's your answer. A gyrocycle isn't the same as whatever that picture is. 

According to the book, in the MEverse a gyrocycle is a motorbike... thingy... with 'gyro-stabilisation'. 

Hence the wheelie, two wheels, etc...

#11278
OrbitalWings

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Whoever posted the "LOOOOORE!" gif, mind if I use it as an avatar?


Feel free.

Surprised you managed to see it in time, actually - I removed it after all the gifs started slowing the page down.

Modifié par Metal-Dragon-Kiryu, 03 février 2012 - 12:42 .


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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Keep fighting the good fight, ladies and gents.

And I am amazed we managed to get a Penny Arcade strip done for this. Well done, people.


Awesome, just read it.

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ZLurps

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ElitePinecone wrote...

ZLurps wrote...
gyro-stabilized bike


That's your answer. A gyrocycle isn't the same as whatever that picture is. 

According to the book, in the MEverse a gyrocycle is a motorbike... thingy... with 'gyro-stabilisation'. 

Hence the wheelie, two wheels, etc...


Yep, but it's still a mistake. Dietz didn't know that such thing actually exists. Calling two wheel motorbike a gyrocycle make much sense and neither does adding gyroscopes in it because bikes work because of gyroscopif effect already.

Edit: Clarification - Adding gyroscopes to gyroscope would be stupid, that's why we don't use them.

Modifié par ZLurps, 03 février 2012 - 12:42 .


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Morning everyone!

And wow, even Penny Arcade is onto this, haha! The epidemic shall spread, and we shall reign supreme.

(Also, quarians with two heads... Cannot... unsee...!)

Modifié par Iohanna, 03 février 2012 - 12:47 .


#11282
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Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Uezurii wrote...

I'm not going to defend this book, but I do have a problem with the issue of Gillian's autism. Wasn't it already stated in Ascension, Gillian's autism came from the meds Cerberus gave her, and that, after she didn't get the dose of meds anymore, she started to improve? So isn't it possible that after a few years of not being drugged, she could be rid of the autism?

I do apologize if I'm wrong though, it's been a while since I read Ascension, but I do remember characters in the book stating that the autism became less when she didn't get drugged, hinting that was the cause.


It's mentioned in Ascension that she has it before Cerberus did anything to her.

It's entirely plausable that what Cerberus did to her made the symptoms worse, but nothing can "give" you autism, and nothing can magically get rid of it.

My bad then, forgot she had it before. And about the "nothing can give or cure autism" part. They brought Shepard back from the dead. ;) lol

I kinda wish Dietz would have used a new set of characters instead of using Drew's characters. Even though it would still have a lot of mistakes, I believe it might have been a better book. Shame.

#11283
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So I go to sleep, wake up and before I even get  a sip of morning coffee I here we have a Penny Arcade strip - Meet those a few years ago a Baltimore Comic Con... good people .. That is awesome news to wake up to .

Modifié par nitefyre410, 03 février 2012 - 12:59 .


#11284
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*delete*

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ZLurps

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Iohanna wrote...

Morning everyone!

And wow, even Penny Arcade is onto this, haha! The epidemic shall spread, and we shall reign supreme.

(Also, quarians with two heads... Cannot... unsee...!)


I recall someone writing couple of hundred pages back how it would be awsome if this would make PA.
Great to see they decided to cover this. :)

#11286
Khran1505

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Just read the Penny Arcade comic. I laughed. XD

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_symphony wrote...

Nick kills Hendel, Nick dies, Guillian takes a toothbrush to the neck and dies.... redacted without any sort of emotion as if EDI were the narrator.


Is this for real?! :blink:

Possibly one of the strongest human Biotic died from a ... toothbrush?!

Umm so what's the plot purpose of Deception anyway?

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Priisus wrote...

_symphony wrote...

Nick kills Hendel, Nick dies, Guillian takes a toothbrush to the neck and dies.... redacted without any sort of emotion as if EDI were the narrator.


Is this for real?! :blink:

Possibly one of the strongest human Biotic died from a ... toothbrush?!

Umm so what's the plot purpose of Deception anyway?

Seems to be to kill off three characters so they didnt have to worry about them appearing in ME 3.

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ElitePinecone

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Priisus wrote...

Umm so what's the plot purpose of Deception anyway?


A fine question. 

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Has anyone considered a fan project to 'fix' the book? By that I mean a re-write of sections of it to bring it into line with canon, such as eliminating the age discrepancies and Hendel's sexual preferences?

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Priisus

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ODST 3 wrote...

Seems to be to kill off three characters so they didnt have to worry about them appearing in ME 3.


I facepalm so HARD :bandit:

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ZLurps

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Priisus wrote...

Umm so what's the plot purpose of Deception anyway?


A fine question. 


Topic has been touched earlier and I think the concenus is that the only purpose this book has is to tie up character loose ends.

I have also speculated that BioWare might had a deal with book publisher for 4 novels and after Drew left EA/BioWare just hired someone to write 4th. one so they could fulfill their part of the contract.

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Question: Did Dietz react to the critique at all?

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Priisus wrote...


Umm so what's the plot purpose of Deception anyway?

 


They have thousands of the best scientific minds on the  word from all fields  from medince, physics, theology, philosphy, psychology,  Biology,  and  other flieds trying to discern  the answer to this very question...

no progress has been made of yet.... they  keeping running  into on issue... some how a 12 yr went from 12 to 18 in 3 years. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 03 février 2012 - 01:47 .


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ZLurps

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Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

Has anyone considered a fan project to 'fix' the book? By that I mean a re-write of sections of it to bring it into line with canon, such as eliminating the age discrepancies and Hendel's sexual preferences?



Rewrite is already happening:

Xaero_Dumort wrote...

docs.google.com/document/d/1AtDZV5j8fiAVpZ0OHsRQiWXMKdgCOoz66rAaGpx_YFE/preview
Mass Effect: Deception re-write progress update!
Finished through chapter one. It takes a lot more effor than I thought it would. But I have fixed a great many of inconsitencies and lore/canon errors  already. Please PM suggestions and the like to me, or check my blog, on
the wiki.

Also PM grammar and other mistakes. Keep in mind they won't be fixed right away. First the re-write then the edit of the re-write.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/alien.png[/smilie]


Modifié par ZLurps, 03 février 2012 - 01:48 .


#11296
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Alright, from now i on i'm gonna pretend "Deception" never happened. It doesn't exist. And it has no influence on ME Universe, because something that doesn't exist can't make an impact on anything.

So... those 3 novels we had so far were pretty decent!

#11297
Priisus

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Ok what's the deal with the toothbrush though? Does it involve Kai Leng again?

#11298
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Priisus wrote...

Ok what's the deal with the toothbrush though? Does it involve Kai Leng again?


Yep, Kai Leng kills Gillian with a sharpened toothbrush.

^_^

#11299
nitefyre410

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roflchoppaz wrote...

Priisus wrote...

Ok what's the deal with the toothbrush though? Does it involve Kai Leng again?


Yep, Kai Leng kills Gillian with a sharpened toothbrush.

^_^

 

yeah well he still ain't Jason Bourne... Jason did not have to sharpen his  bic pen to kill some one... 


<_<  that was just a cheap rip off  the Bourne Series. 

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I see everything is well in here. Still no response from Bioware, huh?