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#76
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This novel is a travesty. WTF? Who the hell let this happen? It's just WOW, it's tragicomical, it's what it is.
I was thinking of canceling my pre-order, wich would have been the wise thing to do, I suppose. But I reconsidered it and decided to buy the book afterall, just to read through that piece of garbage, so I can laugh my ass off and cry at the same time.

And after that, I'm going to Amazon and every other place that lets users review their products, and I'm gonna write some brutally honest reviews about this travesty of a novel. I will do it mostly because it deserves it, and because people need to know that Mr. Dietz is an incompetent fraud. This novel is an insult to fans, to folks at Bioware that created the ME universe, to both Mac Walters and Drew Karpyshyn and to every competent wirtter that ever wrote a decent sci-fi novel.
And it needs to be exposed, to prevent that fraud from ever writting another travesty like this one.

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BrotherWarth wrote...

I don't know why, but as I imagine Kai Leng sitting down and eating Anderson's Lucky Charms I don't see it a slap to the face(to Anderson) or smugness. I see Sad Keannu.


Oh, lord.  Now I can't help but think Kai Leng may have been one of those kids always chasing Lucky for his d*mned cereal.  Probably killed him when he finally caught him, and now makes it a point to eat it whenever he can.  His way of ****ing on his grave, if you will. 

GOD, this is ridiculous :blink:.

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Not going to lie, of all the fails in this book (and they are numerous), what gets me the most is how Dietz describes biotic abilities as "gathering" and/or "collecting" energy, like they're a DBZ qi power/spirit bomb/Pokémon beam or something.

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Relix28 wrote...
*SNIP*


Feeling a little melodramatic are we?

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Random Jerkface wrote...

Not going to lie, of all the fails in this book (and they are numerous), what gets me the most is how Dietz describes biotic abilities as "gathering" and/or "collecting" energy, like they're a DBZ qi power/spirit bomb/Pokémon beam or something.


Yeah this got me to. I don't think Biotics were ever described like that.

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bennyjammin79 wrote...

Relix28 wrote...
*SNIP*


Feeling a little melodramatic are we?


Nah, I just had to get it out of my system. I'm cool now.

Modifié par Relix28, 26 janvier 2012 - 12:40 .


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What sealed the deal for me was his translation of "Keelah se'lai" (in brackets no less!) just like that, in the middle of the text.

That's the problem here: he dumps everything when he's not supposed to and in a totally artificial way. He could either have brought that up in a more delicate manner to explain it to newcomers (if this was indeed for them as it seems to be) or just... not provide any translation whatsoever, and let people assume what it means (just as we have up until this point).

Modifié par Iohanna, 26 janvier 2012 - 12:59 .


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Was bored and had 5 minutes to spare, no ground breaking stuff here.

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Pure evil I tell you!

Modifié par Uezurii, 26 janvier 2012 - 12:44 .


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Iohanna wrote...

What sealed the deal for me was his translation of "Keelah se'lai" (in brackets no less!) just like that, in the middle of the text.

Oh, trust me - that is not the correct translation of "keelah se'lai", by any means.... <_<

Modifié par AVPen, 26 janvier 2012 - 12:52 .


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Iohanna wrote...

What sealed the deal for me was his translation of "Keelah se'lai" (in brackets no less!) just like that, in the middle of the text.


What is the translation?

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dutch646 wrote...

What is the translation?


All adult personnel will report to their battle stations— and all minors will enter the Creche. Keelah se’lai.” (As our ancestors will it.)


Page 31.

It irks me even more because it adds absolutely nothing to the scene. They are being attacked, who cares what some random gibberish means? Depending on the type of person, they'd just assume it's some sort of "stay safe" or "kill'em all"! It's not that hard!

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Wait. Kai Leng ate Anderson's cereal?

Well, uh...OBVIOUSLY we have a CEREAL THIEF on the CITADEL. He's hacking your front doors, snatchin' your cereal up, trying to eat them. So you better hide your Trix, hide your Chex, and hide your Total, 'cause they eating EVERYTHING up here.

Edit: For reference, I guess?

Modifié par SockPuppet317, 26 janvier 2012 - 01:19 .


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Yeah they have deinately either retconned Gillians age or got it wrong, cause if you check out the timeline on the Mass Effect Wiki, it works out as her being 16 in this book =S

Also I am completely unable to take Kai Leng seriously or think he is completely evil after this whole cereal thing it is cracking me up XD

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Uh, whoa. Here I was, about to order the book when MANY a Mass Effect fan tells me not to. I enjoyed Retribution to be certain, but honestly WHOA! (brain shuts down)

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Hey all those guys wanting gillian to be an Li could now be possible.....:o

On another note about biotics in the novel level 1-3 really its not a preficancy its the implants L1-L5x

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Mr. Dietz has no ****ing clue what the "show don't tell" rule, and it;s breaking my heart.

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Eski.Moe wrote...

Kai Leng breaks into Anderson's apartment and eats his cereal. It's basically his way marking his territory. One step above urine.


He's climb'n in yo apartment, eat'n your cereal up, so hide yo cheerios, hide yo fruit loops, and hide yo lucky charms, because he's eat'n all the cereal out there.

- Edit/ Crap! Someone already posted this meme above me in this thread.... :( oh well. Anyway, I already pre-ordered the book and I haven't read the recently released excerpt because I just can't read stories on a computer. Gillian's age is what makes me kind of frustrated though. Too bad it's already coming in the mail...

Modifié par Zorziban the Great, 26 janvier 2012 - 01:49 .


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CROAT_56 wrote...

Hey all those guys wanting gillian to be an Li could now be possible.....:o 

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To be Frankenberry, I thought that Kai Leng was going to be Shepard's equal, you know? Someone with Trix up his sleeve, who was going to keep Shepard in Chex. With this revelation, however, I don't know if I can take him cereal. This does not make me Cheeri-o.

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AVPen wrote...

CROAT_56 wrote...

Hey all those guys wanting gillian to be an Li could now be possible.....:o 

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Posting a link to the preview is fine, but postign a link to the full novel circumvents copyright and is considered piracy. DO NOT post a link to the full novel.

Thanks.

:devil:



Hey, Chris:  Google Books does NOT have the full novel.  It's a PREVIEW.  You could have at least looked at it yourself before banning people over it.

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JeffZero wrote...

Please continue discussing William Dietz's Mass Effect novel here, pending admin approval of course. Let's talk about the novel and only the novel, and not mention anything outside the site's rules and regulations. 

There is an excerpt available for the book, featuring the first fifty-plus pages.

http://www.scribd.co...-Dietz-Excerpt 

I wanted to buy it but it cost too much on top of the other 3 Mass Effect novels I just bought from Amazon.

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SockPuppet317 wrote...

To be Frankenberry, I thought that Kai Leng was going to be Shepard's equal, you know? Someone with Trix up his sleeve, who was going to keep Shepard in Chex. With this revelation, however, I don't know if I can take him cereal. This does not make me Cheeri-o.

Best comment.

BEST.  COMMENT.

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I figured it cannot be as bad as it sounds, then I came across page 222 (and 223),
and with a very specific search - page 126. Then, all faith was lost.
But at least it provides a good laugh if it overcomes the urge to just lie down in a dark corner and cry in misery.

Modifié par Zhuinden, 26 janvier 2012 - 02:33 .


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I'm waiting till Tuesday to judge for my self. after hearing this site flame all of Drews books i cant trust BSN on what books are worth reading.