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[Ryzaki]

Nicolas H-L wrote...

I'm enjoying this thread so much I've decided to contribute something for once.

This cracked me up.

[Nerevar-as]

blue.o7 wrote...

Can someone please pm me the ending?

Me too. I want to know what happens with the main characters mostly, but Star Wars Invincible was the last book I´ll ever read knowing it will be horrible beforehand.

[didymos1120]

Just noticed something else supremely stupid about the fight with the batarian slaver:

“This is not a drill. I repeat . . . This is not a drill. What may be a pirate or a slaver is closing with us and, based on our preliminary sensor readings, will make contact in about forty-two minutes."

This makes very little sense if one or both ships were in FTL. Makes even less sense if they weren't, because then that means the idiot quarians didn't even bother going to FTL in order to evade. They just let the slaver close for nearly an entire hour and disable their engines.

Modifié par didymos1120, 28 janvier 2012 - 02:09 .

[Khran1505]

Jesus christ, why do I discover this thread AFTER my novel arrived? Now I'm worried about reading further into it and soiling my love for Mass Effect entirely. My love is pure, don't corrupt it, Deception! Urgh gods, so many posts about cereal and the age difference.

Btw, has anyone even noticed how the council are made up of non-human members as well as a human councilor? Sure this is acceptable for anyone who went paragon at the end of ME1, but what about those who decided for the council to be human-exclusive? This kinda sh*ts on the players who opted for that ending.

[andy6915]

I think Bioware agrees that the book is crap. But the thing is, they can't openly agree, as that would be pretty much them telling us to NOT give them money. Not supporting your own product is bad PR. So, like the council in ME2 if you saved them, they can't openly side with you, but they can still let you go on doing what you want as a show of peripheral support. Same thing here. Bioware can't actually agree with us openly (and whoever did would get fired for sure), but they can show agreement and support by not censoring or locking or deleting the complaint thread about it.

In short, their silence shows agreement.

Modifié par andy69156915, 28 janvier 2012 - 02:12 .

[didymos1120]

All-human council never happened. ME2 just says "human-led".

[LPPrince]

I'd love a PM confirming the silence was intentional, then.

[Khran1505]

didymos1120 wrote...

All-human council never happened. ME2 just says "human-led".

While I remember a human-chairman being an option in ME1 thus leading to that event in ME2, if what you say happens even after opting for a human-only council then that just makes that option entirely pointless in the game and will no doubt ****** off quite a few Renegade Sheps in ME3.

[bluuberg]

Thanks MissOuJ, my brain is still trying to recover....but thanks o_O

That ending, well the entire book really....just gah. I can't believe Bioware allowed that to happen. It's like a huge F U to the people who actually enjoyed the previous books and the characters in them.

[JamesFaith]

3 days, 57 pages, 99% of text is complaining on quality of book... ts, ts, ts, Mr. Dietz.

[chengthao]

so exactly what happens in the book? i don't care about spoilers since, if the book is as bad as everyone is saying, i'm not going to be reading it.

So can anyone just give me a summary of what happens?

[Zandercode]

didymos1120 wrote...

Just noticed something else supremely stupid about the fight with the batarian slaver:

“This is not a drill. I repeat . . . This is not a drill. What may be a pirate or a slaver is closing with us and, based on our preliminary sensor readings, will make contact in about forty-two minutes."

This makes very little sense if one or both ships were in FTL. Makes even less sense if they weren't, because then that means the idiot quarians didn't even bother going to FTL in order to evade. They just let the slaver close for nearly an entire hour and disable their engines.

It's even worse than that. The codex specifically says that there are no scanners that can track ships in FTL flight. It is impossible for any ship to be intercepted, much less even have its presence known by another ship, while in FTL. So the only way for this scene to have occured would have been if they weren't in FTL, which, as you point out, makes no sense either because they had FORTY-TWO MINUTES to fire up the FTL and escape, no harm done.

The only way this scene could have made any sense were if the slaver ship managed to sneak up on the quarian ship (using that standard tantalus drive core all slaver ships are known to have  ) and disable their engines before alerting the quarians to their presence.

[GnusmasTHX]

Who's in the main cast for this book? So I can decide whether or not I care.

[Khran1505]

I haven't even got that far into it. I noticed a few incoherent plot points and browsed the net for clarity only to find this topic bombarding me with a huge list of plot holes and hilarious pieces of writing including the newly born meme of Kai Leng and his love for cereal.

I truly am scared to continue reading.

[JamesFaith]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Who's in the main cast for this book? So I can decide whether or not I care.

Kahlee and Anderson - mostly only talking, walking from one place to another and transitioning during sex

Kai Leng - patheticly awkward assassin, who stealing food and peeing to decorative objects

Gillian Grayson - postautistic girl, who trying kill TIM by shopping and sticking with group of biotic idiots

TIM -  trying to kill Gillian, because he heard that she want to kill him

Nick Donahue - biotic teenager, young bankrobber, extremist and Hydra armor lover

Aria T'Loak - postbiotic criminal lord

Myrtha Zon - asari, who wants to conquer galaxy and destroy Council with band of fifty or so biotics

Toothbrush - main antagonist

Modifié par JamesFaith, 28 janvier 2012 - 03:16 .

[didymos1120]

Something else about the whole boarding sequence I should have noticed: nobody seems to have kinetic barriers.  Well, one the ships does, but not the people.  There's something called "kinetic armor", but it doesn't really behave like it should. E.g., lots of talk about rounds bouncing off and sparks and stuff...none about barriers being overwhelmed or the like.

[Zhuinden]

JamesFaith wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Who's in the main cast for this book? So I can decide whether or not I care.

Kahlee and Anderson - mostly only talking, walking from one place to another and transitioning during sex
Kai Leng - patheticly awkward assassin, who's stealing food and peeing in decorative objects
Gillian Grayson - postautistic girl, who's trying kill TIM,  shopping and sticking with a group of biotic idiots
TIM -  trying to kill Gillian, because he heard that she wants to kill him
Nick Donahue - biotic teenager, young bankrobber, extremist and level 3 Hydra armor lover
Aria T'Loak - postbiotic criminal lord
Mythra Zon - asari, who wants to conquer galaxy and destroy Council with band of fifty or so biotics
Toothbrush - main antagonist

Bravo.

Modifié par Zhuinden, 28 janvier 2012 - 04:53 .

[Ghost Warrior]

That bad,huh?

[spirosz]

TOOTHBRUSH? LOL

[BellaStrega]

JamesFaith wrote...

My words. You can see on this book, that Dietz is most interested in Leng, his version of Nick and Biotic underground. They getting inadequate space and assumed main characters Anderson and Kahlee are only dead weight for him. Even Gillian, who he unfortunatelly turned in postautistic badass, spare half of the book by shopping (really).

Postautistic? As in he ignores the fact that she's autistic, or has her cured of it or growing out of it or some other nonsense?

There's nothing wrong with her being a badass, although I suspect shopping is deeply out of character given her sensory problems described in Ascension. 

[MissOuJ]

chengthao wrote...

so exactly what happens in the book? i don't care about spoilers since, if the book is as bad as everyone is saying, i'm not going to be reading it.

So can anyone just give me a summary of what happens?

I can try... but the truth is the book has so much going on and the plots have so little to do with each other it is a bit of a cluster**** to be honest. I try to be as spoiler-free as possible, if for nothing else then to prevent this thead from being freezed.

Anderson, Sanders and Nick are in the Citadel, trying to convince the council of the Reaper thread. Nick hightails to join Biotic Underground, A&S try to find him. Meanwhile, Idunna gets targeted by batarian slavers, who have McCann. Gillian learns from him his father is dead and swears revenge!!!101lol. She and Hendel take the slaver's ship and go to the Citadel, where they meet A&S. Gillian throws a temper tantrum because no one wants to come and play assassinate the Illusive Man with him, and hightails. Garments are rendered all around.

Oh, and Leng bugs A&S's appartment, steals their(his?) cereal, and kills McCann and steals Graysons's body from the Citadel (one of the few interesting segments in the whole book). Oh, and TIM orders him to kill Gillian. Because. The not!-18-year-olds end up in Omega, adults (in all but intelligence, at least) follow.

From there, the plot soils itself and spreads all over the place. There are kidnappings, escape attempts, gunfights, a bank robbery, a clumsy James Bond line, and a murder with a household item. How does this tie in the looming Reaper thread, or the universe, or anything?

The answer: in no way whatsoever!

Edited because I can't grammar

Modifié par MissOuJ, 28 janvier 2012 - 03:36 .

[Khran1505]

Please tell me there's going to be a discussion in BioWare about retconning this piece of written filth from the canonicity of the franchise. I swear if I see so much as one reference to it in ME3...

[chengthao]

MissOuJ wrote...

chengthao wrote...

so exactly what happens in the book? i don't care about spoilers since, if the book is as bad as everyone is saying, i'm not going to be reading it.

So can anyone just give me a summary of what happens?

I can try... but the truth is the book has so much going on and the plots have so little to do with each other it is a bit of a cluster**** to be honest. I try to be as spoiler-free as possible, if for nothing else then to prevent this thead from being freezed.

Anderson, Sanders and Nick are in the Citadel, trying to convince the council of the Reaper thread. Nick hightails to join Biotic Underground, A&S try to find him. Meanwhile, Idunna gets targeted by batarian slavers, who have McCann. Gillian learns from him his father is dead and spear revenge!!!101lol. She and Hendel take the slaver's ship and go to the Citadel, where they meet A&S. Gillian throws a temper tantrum because no one wants to come and play assassinate the Illusive Man with him, and hightails. Garments are rendered all around.

Oh, and Leng bugs A&S's appartment, steals their(his?) cereal, and kills McCann and steals Graysons's body from the Citadel (one of the few interesting segments in the whole book). Oh, and TIM orders him to kill Gillian. Because. The not!-18-year-olds end up in Omega, adults (in all but intelligence, at least) follow.

From there, the plot soils itself and spreads all over the place. There are kidnappings, escape attempts, gunfights, a bank robbery, a clumsy James Bond line, and a murder by household item. How does this tie in the looming Reaper thread, or the universe, or anything?

The answer: in no way whatsoever!

thank you for letting me know all that happens, just saved me a whole bunch of time

[chengthao]

MissOuJ wrote...

chengthao wrote...

so exactly what happens in the book? i don't care about spoilers since, if the book is as bad as everyone is saying, i'm not going to be reading it.

So can anyone just give me a summary of what happens?

I can try... but the truth is the book has so much going on and the plots have so little to do with each other it is a bit of a cluster**** to be honest. I try to be as spoiler-free as possible, if for nothing else then to prevent this thead from being freezed.

Anderson, Sanders and Nick are in the Citadel, trying to convince the council of the Reaper thread. Nick hightails to join Biotic Underground, A&S try to find him. Meanwhile, Idunna gets targeted by batarian slavers, who have McCann. Gillian learns from him his father is dead and spear revenge!!!101lol. She and Hendel take the slaver's ship and go to the Citadel, where they meet A&S. Gillian throws a temper tantrum because no one wants to come and play assassinate the Illusive Man with him, and hightails. Garments are rendered all around.

Oh, and Leng bugs A&S's appartment, steals their(his?) cereal, and kills McCann and steals Graysons's body from the Citadel (one of the few interesting segments in the whole book). Oh, and TIM orders him to kill Gillian. Because. The not!-18-year-olds end up in Omega, adults (in all but intelligence, at least) follow.

From there, the plot soils itself and spreads all over the place. There are kidnappings, escape attempts, gunfights, a bank robbery, a clumsy James Bond line, and a murder by household item. How does this tie in the looming Reaper thread, or the universe, or anything?

The answer: in no way whatsoever!

and i was actually looking forward to reading this


but thank you for saving me a whole lot of time