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Mass Effect: Deception Discussion Thread (Updated 2/2/2012) *Now with 30% more links!*


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JamesFaith

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BellaStrega wrote...

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My words. You can see on this book, that Dietz is most interested in Leng, his version of Nick and Biotic underground. They getting inadequate space and assumed main characters Anderson and Kahlee are only dead weight for him. Even Gillian, who he unfortunatelly turned in postautistic badass, spare half of the book by shopping (really). Image IPB


Postautistic? As in he ignores the fact that she's autistic, or has her cured of it or growing out of it or some other nonsense?

There's nothing wrong with her being a badass, although I suspect shopping is deeply out of character given her sensory problems described in Ascension. 


By her own words - she had problems in past, but she grow up from it.

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JamesFaith wrote...

BellaStrega wrote...

JamesFaith wrote...

My words. You can see on this book, that Dietz is most interested in Leng, his version of Nick and Biotic underground. They getting inadequate space and assumed main characters Anderson and Kahlee are only dead weight for him. Even Gillian, who he unfortunatelly turned in postautistic badass, spare half of the book by shopping (really). Image IPB


Postautistic? As in he ignores the fact that she's autistic, or has her cured of it or growing out of it or some other nonsense?

There's nothing wrong with her being a badass, although I suspect shopping is deeply out of character given her sensory problems described in Ascension. 


By her own words - she had problems in past, but she grow up from it.


Yes, because we all know that autism is just a phase we go through as kids.

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Please tell me there's going to be a discussion in BioWare about retconning this piece of written filth from the canonicity of the franchise. I swear if I see so much as one reference to it in ME3...


Thats why I sent a PM to a dev who will pass the message higher up the chain.

I also implore y'all to do the same. Professionally, of course.

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So this book doesn't really add anything new to setup ME3, beside killing off side characters?

Sounds like the only purpose of the book is character assassination.

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Is it true Hendel was changed from gay to straight?

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^ Yes

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TMA LIVE wrote...

So this book doesn't really add anything new to setup ME3, beside killing off side characters?

Sounds like the only purpose of the book is character assassination.


Pretty much.

Whole thing is a waste of time. And pages.

Poor trees...

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JamesFaith wrote...

By her own words - she had problems in past, but she grow up from it.



Image IPB

Only way to properly demonstrate my reaction.

Modifié par BellaStrega, 28 janvier 2012 - 04:02 .


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JoeLaTurkey wrote...

^ Yes

:huh: I wouldn't really care if he was revealed to be bi but didn't Kahlee specifically said in previous books that he's not interested in women at all?

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Khran1505 wrote...

Please tell me there's going to be a discussion in BioWare about retconning this piece of written filth from the canonicity of the franchise. I swear if I see so much as one reference to it in ME3...


Please don't get my imagination going. I've already had the thought of a Deus Ex Machina style scenario, with the fight between Shepard & Leng, involving a bowl of cereal being used as a distraction. >.< :-p

Modifié par AresXX7, 28 janvier 2012 - 04:04 .


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IsaacShep wrote...

JoeLaTurkey wrote...

^ Yes

:huh: I wouldn't really care if he was revealed to be bi but didn't Kahlee specifically said in previous books that he's not interested in women at all?


Yep. Or at least, said he'd be more interested in a pretty boy then her.

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IsaacShep wrote...

JoeLaTurkey wrote...

^ Yes

:huh: I wouldn't really care if he was revealed to be bi but didn't Kahlee specifically said in previous books that he's not interested in women at all?


Yep. If he were bisexual, Kahlee would've insinuated that instead of inferring he liked men.

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And now he's no longer not interested in men at all lol?

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He stopped rolling that way, apparently.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Is it true Hendel was changed from gay to straight?


Yep. I just went back and looked at the post about it, and noticed it had the word "ogling" in quotes. So, searching the Google Preview with that term we get:

Anderson and Hendel were busy ogling the asari dancers...



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LPPrince wrote...

He stopped rolling that way, apparently.

Seriously lol? It's one thing to reveal this or that character also likes other gender (even though Khalee kind of ruled it out), but full on switch from exclusively gay to exclusively straight? :lol:

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Apparently homosexuality in the ME-Dietz universe is a choice.

Otherwise I can't see how Hendel suddenly decided hot pockets were more appealing than hot dogs.

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Anderson needs to be too busy sexing up Kahlee to notice things happening more often. The stud.

Council meetings? Shepard returning? Reaper invasions? Nope, sorry! Too busy sexing Kahlee! Oh, sorry, 'Making love'. My bad.

Wooo, here come the steamy bits!

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andy69156915 wrote...

I think Bioware agrees that the book is crap. But the thing is, they can't openly agree, as that would be pretty much them telling us to NOT give them money. Not supporting your own product is bad PR. So, like the council in ME2 if you saved them, they can't openly side with you, but they can still let you go on doing what you want as a show of peripheral support. Same thing here. Bioware can't actually agree with us openly (and whoever did would get fired for sure), but they can show agreement and support by not censoring or locking or deleting the complaint thread about it.

In short, their silence shows agreement.


Yup, just like I was thinking. Maybe a few years on after this we'll get someone (who is working for another company at the time) to admit this book didn't turn out right at all, but we're not going to get it now.

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bleetman wrote...

Anderson needs to be too busy sexing up Kahlee to notice things happening more often. The stud.

Council meetings? Shepard returning? Reaper invasions? Nope, sorry! Too busy sexing Kahlee! Oh, sorry, 'Making love'. My bad.

Wooo, here come the steamy bits!


I'm sorry but having sex isn't going to stop you from noticing the ship you're on is going through a mass relay.

Its a mass relay. The whole ship is shaking. Its going to help you along and make you think you're better at it than you are.

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IsaacShep wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

He stopped rolling that way, apparently.

Seriously lol? It's one thing to reveal this or that character also likes other gender (even though Khalee kind of ruled it out), but full on switch from exclusively gay to exclusively straight? :lol:


It makes perfect sense. Shaddup. 

He was raped by a woman and the experience converted him.

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The really awful part is that I don't think that whole relay-travel-as-sex-metaphor was unintentional.

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LPPrince wrote...

Apparently homosexuality in the ME-Dietz universe is a choice.

Otherwise I can't see how Hendel suddenly decided hot pockets were more appealing than hot dogs.


Everyone loves the asari. It's always the main exception.

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Volus Warlord wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

He stopped rolling that way, apparently.

Seriously lol? It's one thing to reveal this or that character also likes other gender (even though Khalee kind of ruled it out), but full on switch from exclusively gay to exclusively straight? :lol:


It makes perfect sense. Shaddup. 

He was raped by a woman and the experience converted him.


Must have met a nice quarian girl on the Idenna who awakened his dormant heterosexuality.  Or maybe during their training sessions, Gillian biotically knocked the gay right out of him. She's a LEVEL THREE, so I can totally see it.

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didymos1120 wrote...

The really awful part is that I don't think that whole relay-travel-as-sex-metaphor was unintentional.


Where's the quote for that section?