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[ZLurps]

AVPen wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

AVPen wrote...
21. Quarian's names, continued - none of the quarians named in Deception have a clan-name (examples: Tali'Zorah, Han'Gerrel, Daro'Xen, Shala'Raan, etc)

He actually did get one right: Ysin'Mal. The other thing to note is that leaving off the clan name is OK. Drew does it in Ascension. The games do it. But not when their birth/crew names are also invoked.

That is true and a good point, but even then, Dietz screws it up by still not giving the Quarian's full name when the situation calls for it (like that Quarian addressing the Council as "Fothar Vas Maynar" - since it's a formal affair and he's invoking his ship's name as well, it should "Fothar'clan-name vas Maynar")

Huh... I leave it on list (though overstriked) for future quote reference. Don't drop it before we have concensus about this.

It's back in the list.

Modifié par ZLurps, 28 janvier 2012 - 06:14 .

[didymos1120]

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say: Dietz also does when it's not appropriate.

[Anacronian Stryx]

Hand Weapons that fire at "relativistic speeds" - for those who doesn't know it the term relativistic speed means close or apprising the speed of light, the term is usually used about speed higher than 80% of C - considering that a sand corn fired of those speeds will have the impact of 90 kg TNT and also that a main gun on a Everest class dreadnought only fires at 1.3% of C i would say that relativistic speeds might be a bit high.

[CARL_DF90]

Usually I am not one to be overly critical. However my dear Bioware, this is what happens when you allow idiots like Dietz to write something on one of your most popular series with little to no oversight on the project. I hope you all at Bioware HQ take note of these events and make sure this NEVER happens again. Quality control is everything. Without it you have nothing. Hard lessons to be sure.

[LPPrince]

The science in the ME universe has always been iffy though.

[LPPrince]

Then again, its still a mistake. Notch another one against Deception.

[Iohanna]

LPPrince wrote...

Iohanna wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

So, um, there's a slight problem with Ugho being in Deception. He been dead for roughly two-and-a-half years:

The bodies of Isli, Seeto, and Ugho lay just beyond it.

Unless Ugho is the equivalent of John Doe to the Quarians.

Oh, I can smell the plot twists a-brewing!

Nah brah.

Ugho is Armistan Banes.

Win.

[JamesFaith]

OMG, ZLurps, we totally forgot on messed timeline!

[Eski.Moe]

It warms my heart to see everyone united in their attitudes for once.

[didymos1120]

LPPrince wrote...

Then again, its still a mistake. Notch another one against Deception.

NO QUARTER! NO MERCY!

[ZLurps]

JamesFaith wrote...

OMG, ZLurps, we totally forgot on messed timeline!

I know, I know but I just couldn't get myself to explain that cluster****!

Modifié par ZLurps, 28 janvier 2012 - 06:15 .

[LPPrince]

Iohanna wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Nah brah.

Ugho is Armistan Banes.

Win.

No one saw THAT coming.

[Armass81]

Somebody PM me the ending, heard its something else...

[MissOuJ]

ZLurps wrote...

16. Biotics are told to have different levels in their Biotic abilities - There is no such thing, there are only different types of implants.

And speaking of biotic implants and Deception... In the Citadel, after Gillian has ditched her entourage, she goes off to find a place where she can have new implants because the L4's are apparently too weak for her liking (yes, she's actually willing to have a surgery where brain damage is a serious concern to become more powerful). First, she tries the legitimate way, but since she wants them "Now. As in, today!", she's forced to go to the black market. For brain surgery.

As it happends, she gets new implants installed without any anesthesia.

She has a brain surgery. In a back-alley clinic. Without anesthesia. And pretty much just hops up from the operation table when the doctor is done and goes to some other back alley to blow up something or another to showcase her newly aquired powers.

And that's how Gillian became a Biotic God. The End.

Modifié par MissOuJ, 28 janvier 2012 - 06:21 .

[JamesFaith]

ZLurps wrote...

JamesFaith wrote...

OMG, ZLurps, we totally forgot on messed timeline!

I know, I know but I just couldn't get myself to explain that cluster****!

Yes, it is like some time Gordian knot, which Dietz hide in bowl of cornflakes end pee on both loose ends.

[Khran1505]

Sure the science of Mass Effect is questionable at best, but considering the vastness of the universe and how well it merges together, we can forgive a few oversights here and there. It's when people like Dietz think they understand just how the universe in the games works and thus can just bull**** whatever they want because the fans might accept it.

Cue the flaming dog poop on his front door mat.

[AVPen]

MissOuJ wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

16. Biotics are told to have different levels in their Biotic abilities - There is no such thing, there are only different types of implants.

And speaking of biotic implants and Deception... In the Citadel, after Gillian has ditched her entourage, she goes off to find a place where she can have new implants because the L4's are apparently too weak for her liking (yes, she's actually willing to have a surgery where brain damage is a serious concern to become more powerful). First, she tries the legitimate way, but since she wants them "Now. As in, today!", she's forced to go to the black market. For brain surgery.

As it happends, she gets new implants installed without any anesthesia.

She has a brain surgery. In a back-alley clinic. Without anesthesia. And pretty much just hops up from the operation table when the doctor is done and goes to some other back alley to blow up something or another to showcase her newly acuired powers.

And that's how Gillian became a Biotic God. The End.

The True Biotic God would like a word with her...

 

[SolidBeast]

The writing style is hilarious, even without all he horrible canon errors.

"A roly-poly volus was ensconced behind a messy desk."
"But what was - was."
"A "take what you need" system that served to put goods in the hands of those who needed them"
"This is the captain. Secure the ship for battle. Primary weapons are armed. Secondary weapons are armed. Tertiary weapons are armed. Estimated time to contact forty-seven minutes. That will be all."
"Now the slaves knew more. But some critical pieces of information were still missing. Were the batarians about to be attacked? Or about to attack someone else? And if so, what were they after?"
"A woman started to pray, a turian told her to shut up, and McCann found himself in the strange position of hoping that his captors would win the upcoming battle. Because if they lost, and the Khar'shan was destroyed, his life would be over."
"And that was the thing about both pirates and slavers. In order to profit they had to board and take over."
"Then, having completed his mission, Leng limped away. His right leg was on fire. But the matrix was safe, the Illusive Man would be pleased, and he could leave Khar'shan. Life was good."

[Anacronian Stryx]

" Hey Leng you might wanna put out that leg...no?"

[ZLurps]

AVPen wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

JamesFaith wrote...

Challenge accepted, LPPrince. There are my first ten cannon mistakes in Deception. Everyone can continue, just please keep it on purely ME mistakes, things like cornflakes are only Dietz's stupidities, use same numbering and formal language in case, we someday send it to BW as proof of Dietz's incompetence, and donť repeating them. We will see, how incorrect this I'm-proud-on-it book is.


Cannon mistakes in ME: Deception

• Gillian's autism - now she, by her own words, grew up from it, which is impossible
• Quarian's names - titling kvarian Fothar vas Maynar (and others) like Maynar means, you adressed them by name of their ship, not by their own name.
• Gas suckers - quarians breathing air, their masks only looks like gas mask, their function is filtration of air
• Claiming that Hendel never visit Omega before - Hendel was on Omega in Ascension whole three chapters
• Hendel can't know that Anderson and Kahlee are together and on the Citadel - they got together after Hendel leaving with quarians and Kahlee had no contact with them (dialog between her and Grayson in Retribution and fact, that Gillian don't know about father's death)
• Friendship of Gillian and Nick - there was only one and last contact between them in Ascension. Nick overthrow her milk and she went mad and nearly kill him
• Gillian knowing about her adoption - nothing suggest this in Ascension, in fact Grayson had strict order from TIM pretending, he is her real father
• Gillian claiming that child in Academy tormented her  -  nothing suggesting that, in fact they only ignoring her, incident with Nick was unique
• Tantalus drive core on batarian ship - Tantalus core was high secret experiental drive core using only on Normandy, batarians can't have it
• Aria T'Loak's biotic - Aria is very strong biotic, but in Deception she need her bodyguards to put barrier on her

11. The Citadel is described being star shaped - Citadel is actually like a hollow cylinder.

12. There is Batarian embassy in the Citedel - Batarians closed their embassy in after the Citadel Council sided with humans regarding border dispute.

13. Some characters visit Chora's Den - Chora's Den was closed after events of ME1.

14. Citadel surrounded by stars - Citadel is in the middle of nebula with only one star, Widow, visible.

15. Krogan dies when Kai Leng severes stabs knife in his neck and severes spine - Krogan biology doesn't work that way.

16. Biotics are told to have different levels in their Biotic abilities - There is no such thing, there are only different types of implants.

17. Hendel Mitra is described as heterosexual - Hendel is homosexual.

18. Deception claims Asari found The Citadel first and learned to use mass effect technology after that - How did they got in the Citadel at the first without using mass effect?

19. Deception tells that The Citadel is a Reaper trap that Reapers used successufully during the events of ME1
- That never happended due Prothean scientists reprogamming the Keepers
and Shepard foiling Sovereigns plan to manuallu override Citadel relay
function.

21. Asari are told to be asexual - In ME1 Liara describes Asari as mono-gender, all female species.

22. Quarian's names, continued - none of the quarians named in Deception have a clan-name (examples: Tali'Zorah, Han'Gerrel, Daro'Xen, Shala'Raan, etc.

23. Asari Council member saying "My God" - Asari don't believe in any form of male God, their religion is a monotheistic one based on the Goddess Athame.

24. Kai Leng visits an auction house on the Batarian homeworld Kar'Shan - the Batarian homeworld is closed off to outside races, especially humans.

25. Batarian pirates raid slaves from the Turian homeworld of Pavalen - yeah, a bunch of no-name pirates managed to raid supplies and slaves from the homeworld of one of the strongest and most militaristic of races in the Mass Effect universe.

26. Public is allowed in the Citadel Council chamber - In ME1 only very few people have a privilegde to meet them.

27. Characters Gillian and Nick are 18 years old in Deception - These characters were 12 - 13 years old in previous novels set 2 years before Deception

28. Hand Weapons that fire at "relativistic speeds" - for those who doesn't know it the term relativistic speed means close or apprising the speed of light, the term is usually used about speed higher than 80% of C - considering that a sand corn fired of those speeds will have the impact of 90 kg TNT and also that a main gun on a Everest class dreadnought only fires at 1.3% of C i would say that relativistic speeds might be a bit high.

Modifié par ZLurps, 28 janvier 2012 - 06:29 .

[ZLurps]

MissOuJ wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

16. Biotics are told to have different levels in their Biotic abilities - There is no such thing, there are only different types of implants.

And speaking of biotic implants and Deception... In the Citadel, after Gillian has ditched her entourage, she goes off to find a place where she can have new implants because the L4's are apparently too weak for her liking (yes, she's actually willing to have a surgery where brain damage is a serious concern to become more powerful). First, she tries the legitimate way, but since she wants them "Now. As in, today!", she's forced to go to the black market. For brain surgery.

As it happends, she gets new implants installed without any anesthesia.

She has a brain surgery. In a back-alley clinic. Without anesthesia. And pretty much just hops up from the operation table when the doctor is done and goes to some other back alley to blow up something or another to showcase her newly aquired powers.

And that's how Gillian became a Biotic God. The End.

Yeah, this has raised some questions earlier. I try to check for Codex if there is a mention about surgery. I recall there was something in game or Codex or somewhere surgery being very dangerous but I'm not sure.

[roflchoppaz]

MissOuJ wrote...

And speaking of biotic implants and Deception... In the Citadel, after Gillian has ditched her entourage, she goes off to find a place where she can have new implants because the L4's are apparently too weak for her liking (yes, she's actually willing to have a surgery where brain damage is a serious concern to become more powerful). First, she tries the legitimate way, but since she wants them "Now. As in, today!", she's forced to go to the black market. For brain surgery.

As it happends, she gets new implants installed without any anesthesia.

She has a brain surgery. In a back-alley clinic. Without anesthesia. And pretty much just hops up from the operation table when the doctor is done and goes to some other back alley to blow up something or another to showcase her newly aquired powers.

And that's how Gillian became a Biotic God. The End.

mother of god.jpg

No, seriously, what in the actual ****.

And how old is she? 18? God dammit.

[dgcatanisiri]

AVPen wrote...
[*]23. Kai Leng visits an auction house on the Baratian homeworld Kar'Shan - the Batarian homeworld is closed off to outside races, especially humans..

 Not to mention, isn't this supposed to be after Arrival, as in the DLC where a human causes the deaths of over 300,000 batarians and is regarded as canon whether or not the player completed it? A human on Kar'Shan would definitely by shot on sight!

Modifié par dgcatanisiri, 28 janvier 2012 - 06:33 .

[ZLurps]

dgcatanisiri wrote...

AVPen wrote...
[*]23. Kai Leng visits an auction house on the Baratian homeworld Kar'Shan - the Batarian homeworld is closed off to outside races, especially humans..

 Not to mention, isn't this supposed to be after Arrival, as in the DLC where a human causes the deaths of over 300,000 batarians and is regarded as canon whether or not the player completed it? A human on Kar'Shan would definitely by shot on sight!

Timeline is so ****ed up that I won't even try to explain all errors there. Someone has to, but at least for now, I'm not up to task.

[Anacronian Stryx]

I honesty i don't think "gas suckers" belongs on the list, It's used as a derogatory about the quarians and such statements rarely rely on logic.

However dumb it might be it is still possible to make the connection between a quarian helmet and a gas mask.